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#401 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 422 weeks ago

Trump's lawyer, Cohen, had his office raided today by the FBI.

This is pretty big news. In fact I'd say it's about as big as you're going to get right now.

Now Trump's lawyer, needs a lawyer.

#402 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 423 weeks ago

Manafort associate had Russian intelligence ties during 2016 campaign, prosecutors say

The FBI has found that a business associate of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort had ongoing ties to Russian intelligence, including during the 2016 presidential campaign when Manafort and his deputy, Rick Gates, were in touch with the associate, according to new court filings.

The documents, filed late Tuesday by prosecutors for special counsel Robert Mueller III, also allege that Gates has said he knew the associate was a former officer with the Russian military intelligence service.

The allegations underscore Mueller's interest in Manafort and Gates, who continued to interact with business associates in Ukraine even as they helped lead Donald Trump's presidential campaign.

Manafort, 68, has pleaded not guilty to conspiracy, money laundering, and tax and bank fraud charges related to his lobbying work for a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine and former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych.

Gates, 45, who was deputy campaign manager for Trump and had earlier worked with Manafort in Ukraine, pleaded guilty last month to conspiracy and lying to the FBI in a cooperation deal with Mueller's probe.

Prosecutors made the allegation without naming the Manafort associate but described his role with Manafort in detail. The description matches Konstantin Kilimnik, the Russian manager of Manafort's lobbying office in the Ukrainian capital, Kiev.

Kilimnik did not respond to a request for comment. Nor did a White House spokesman or an attorney for Gates.

Kilimnik has previously denied intelligence ties, telling The Washington Post in a statement in June that he has "no relation to the Russian or any other intelligence service."

A spokesman for Manafort, who is under a court gag order, declined to comment.

Manafort has acknowledged staying in frequent contact with Kilimnik during the time he worked for Trump's campaign. He has said he met with Kilimnik in person in May 2016 and again in New York City in August 2016, about two weeks before Manafort resigned as Trump's campaign chairman.

A Manafort spokesman expressed confidence in June that investigators would ultimately conclude that Manafort's interactions with Kilimnik were "perfectly permissible and not in furtherance of some conspiracy."

The information about the FBI's assessment of the Manafort associate came in a court filing related to the upcoming sentencing of London attorney Alex van der Zwaan, whose firm worked with Manafort when he served as a political consultant in Ukraine.

Van der Zwaan, 33, the son-in-law of a prominent Russian Ukrainian banker, pleaded guilty last month to lying about his September 2016 contacts with Gates and the Manafort associate, identified in court documents only as "Person A."

Prosecutors explained that van der Zwaan had lied and withheld documents about information that was "pertinent" to their investigation - that Gates had been in direct contact during the presidential campaign with a person who "has ties to a Russian intelligence service and had such ties in 2016."

They said that when van der Zwaan was interviewed by the FBI in November, he told investigators that Gates had informed him that Person A was a former officer of the Russian military intelligence service, known as the GRU.

Kilimnik ran Manafort's office in Kiev during the 10 years he did consulting work there, The Post reported in 2017.

During his August 2016 meeting with Kilimnik, Manafort has said he and his longtime Kiev office manager discussed, among other topics, the ongoing campaign, including the hacking of Democratic National Committee emails. Stolen DNC emails had been released by WikiLeaks the previous month, and the hack was widely suspected to be the work of Russia.

During Kilimnik's time working for Manafort in Kiev, he had served as a liaison for Manafort to the Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, with whom Manafort had done business. Emails previously described to The Post show that Manafort asked Kilimnik during the campaign to offer Deripaska "private briefings" about Trump's effort. A Deripaska spokeswoman has said the billionaire, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, was not offered and did not receive such briefings.

Kilimnik previously told The Post that he had served for a time in the early 1990s in the Russian army, but he denied any links to intelligence work.

Manafort has also denied knowingly communicating with Russian intelligence during the campaign. He told the New York Times last year, however, "It's not like these people wear badges that say, 'I'm a Russian intelligence officer.' "

#403 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 423 weeks ago

kermit the Trump wrote:


That is frightening.

If left unchecked we're fucked. And we're pretty close to the tipping point already.

#404 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 423 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

David Hogg is a slimy little cunt.

He's not a victim.

Why are you so nasty towards this kid? It's pretty low to be honest.

I expect it from the far right gun freaks...why would you commingle with such people?

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#405 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 424 weeks ago

kermit the Trump wrote:

It's not the same. We were not bombarded with 24/7 coverage of the Clinton scandals, not even during the Lewinsky bullshit. Politics was not pushed as entertainment during the Clinton years either.

haha, yea right. It's all everybody talked about.

#406 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 424 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

the recent step down of his to-be attorney DiGenova

This was remarkably fast. It's been reported that Trump approached four well known firms prior and they all turned him down. But DiGenova's in/out was faster than The Mooch! Hard to believe there's not something to that.

#407 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 425 weeks ago

Everything is happening so fast...

https://twitter.com/radiochick841/status/977193235146780672?s=20

#408 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 425 weeks ago

Bolton along with Trump is a very dangerous combo IMO.

The original players are being rotated out in favor of more dangerous actors and crazies.

#409 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 425 weeks ago

johndivney wrote:

Tariffs on China long overdue. Rest of West should follow suit.
Finally a bit of business nous/tough negotiation coming through.


#410 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 425 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

He could be DOMINATING right now.  But pisses it away over stupidity.

I actually agree with this. During the primaries, even though he acted like an idiot, he exposed the every day politicians as frauds and made them look like fools. He grabbed the nation's attention and got the nomination. He could have done something with all of this, changed the power structure completely. But instead his narcissism, and multitudes of dysfunction stemming from that narcissism is killing him. He also didn't really want any of this (see narcissism.)

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