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#4281 Re: The Garden » New Cigarettes -Camel Crush » 918 weeks ago

It's toasted.

I don't know, cigarettes and fresh breath kinda contradicts itself.

#4282 Re: The Garden » U.S. Debt Too Big for National Debt Clock » 918 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

lmao... problem with Paul is he's so far the other way, it'd take a 100 years to do to this country what he wants.


100 years BACK in time. I'm not saying it's the wrong thing to do, but it's just unrealistic.

True, but at least you'd get a man in the chair with a real heart.

Athens, Rome, France, Weimar...sorry to say, but the likelyhood of a dictator emerging from this mess is grave and...natural.

We live in volatile times. This may be the single most important part of human history as of yet.

#4283 Re: The Garden » My fellow prisoners... » 918 weeks ago

Fucked up? Freudian slip perhaps.

Vote for the bailout or we enact Martial Law.

#4284 Re: The Garden » Europe further up shit creek than United States » 919 weeks ago

You wish.

France's Christine Lagarde called yesterday for an EU emergency fund. "What happens if a smaller EU country faces the threat of a bank going bankrupt? Perhaps the country doesn't have the means to save the institution. The question of a European safety net arises," she said.

This is what's really going to happen. A strengthened, more centralized Union.

No shit we're worse off than you. We invented this bullshit.

#4285 Re: The Garden » Record plunge for the Dow » 919 weeks ago

Free market gone wild? What free market? Can anyone show it to me?

People forget easily. The exact same rhetoric was used in the exact same situations in the early 1900s. Panic of 1907. "Oh the damn bankers, we need a regulator!". Bring in the FED, drafted by those very same bankers. The great depression? "Oh, the market's gone wild. Give us socialism, give us a new deal!".

There hasn't been a free market in America for a hundred years. Europe has never really had one. Free markets don't create debt economies. Free markets don't keep interest rates artificially low. Free markets don't create more money than is needed.

And now we're here again. Same situation, same culprits. And everybody wants to give them more power.

Seriously, it's time to wake up and smell what system is running here. How much has changed. German Citizens in the 1930's had more rights than an American has today.

#4286 Re: The Garden » A shattering moment in America's fall from power » 919 weeks ago

Now the period of submission comes. To cooperation, to environment, to health, to government, to the UN, to the Agenda.

This didn't happen by chance. Western bankers and investors have propped up Russia and China for decades. The only thing shielding them from acts of treason has been the fact that Congress didn't declare war on anybody since 1941. American 'tractor' factories in the USSR, missile secrets sold to China. The head start has been fizzled away, deliberately. Now the country is bankrupt and the people forced to submit to elitist socialism. And the people have been enjoying the ride. Time to pay.

Regards from Europe. We've been there for a while already.

#4287 Re: The Garden » The Truth About Sarah Palin » 919 weeks ago

That's over simplifying things. She is the Governor of a small insignificant state which have seen positive side effects from oil prices and the general economic "boost"/balloon. Yeah she's got some decent stats, and besides sex, age and appearance I'd say that's why they picked her in the first place.

In the end it doesn't mean anything. She has had to make few if any hard decisions, and her so called experience is questionable in the way she carries herself. Lipstick and cuecards? Weak answers, limited knowledge. Bottom line she doesn't seem to be a person with a whole lot going for her. The way the campaign's been acting lately doesn't go along way in disputing that they share the same sentiment. They're hiding her because she's proven to be a disaster.

And this is the person that's going to be a heart attack from the Oval Office? It would be a total cake walk for the lobbyists and string pullers.

It's not looking too good for you over there at the moment.

#4288 Re: The Garden » White House says No More Bailouts » 919 weeks ago

Oh, we're in trouble..

non-borrowed-reserves.jpg

http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BOGNONBR

Shaded areas indicate US recessions as determined by the NBER

#4289 The Garden » USA vs. US » 920 weeks ago

polluxlm
Replies: 4

Both systems concurrently exist today. However, the corporate system has been gaining predominance in the last 70 years. Many Sovereigns (We the people) have contracted with the corporate system unknowingly, unintentionally, and or without full disclosure.

Original Description

union of the several states
the states united
united states in Congress assembled
The united states of America
The United States of America
The United States
(defined as the original or organic)

Corporate Description

the UNITED STATES
the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
(all capital letters, a corporation, fiction of law)
the United States of America
the United States
(defined as the corporate US),

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a "Republic"
having its beginning in 1776

a " Corporation" Created (Incorporated) by (Presidential) Legislative Act in 1871, Forty-first Congress, Session III, Chapter 62, page 419
To incorporate means to become
a part of something bigger

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having a de jure form of government
Of right; legitimate; lawful; by right and just title; "by law"
--Black's Law Dictionary sixth edition

a de facto government
In fact, in deed, actually; a state of affairs; but is illegal or illegitimate; "by equity" and not "by law"; is not constitutional. Thus an officer, king. or government de facto is in actual possession, but by usurpation, or without lawful title.
--Black's Law Dictionary sixth edition

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Started with Declaration of Independence in 1776, Articles of Confederation in 1778, and the Constitution in 1787

Started with Gettysburg Address in 1864, and the Incorporation of District of Columbia by (Presidential) Legislative Act of February 21, 1871, under the Emergency War Powers Act and the Reconstruction Acts.
Then reorganized June 11, 1878
--16 Stat. 419 Chapter 62

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Philadelphia is the Capitol

The Articles of Confederation
were agreed to by the united states in Congress assembled on November 15, 1777 and were ratified March 1, 1781. From the time of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776, to the time of the Articles of Confederation there was a space of time of sixteen months and eleven days. During this period of time, the several nations, states, countries were sovereign unto themselves as relates to foreign earthly powers.

There was an outstanding debt of 17 million silver Lira from french banks over 21 separate occasions all due on December 1, 1789.

Therefore, a Constitution had to be drafted as a bankruptcy Charter.

"Articles" establish a sovereign nation but all "Constitutions" are bankruptcy charters or compacts.

The Articles of Confederation
are (may) still be in operation.

"He [Patrick Henry] boycotted the Constitutional Convention of 1787 because, as he so eloquently put it, "I smell a rat " and suspected the worst: that the independent colonies that had thrived for over a century were to be herded under one consolidated government, a vast government apparatus founded not on liberty, but on the bureaucratic dreams of monarchists and mercantilists like Alexander Hamilton." 

Certain members of Congress created the District of Columbia from portions of two states; Virginia (Virgin) and Maryland (Mary). Physically united together they are "Virgin Mary ," to form a more perfect union as a new "United States".

All Rule comes from
"District of Columbia"
"Columbia" is a name for "Goddess of Creation, War, and Destruction" more known as the goddess of death and pain. She is a statue on top of the Capitol building called the Statue of Freedom which is crowned with pentacles (pentagrams--stars with five points). She is seen as other statues around Washington D.C. area. She is derived from the imagery of Semiramis, wife of Nimrod, and Queen of Babylon.

US Titles and Codes
call "DC" the "United States"

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The Constitution for The United States of America.

Now known or referred to as
the organic constitution.
This Constitution established a central government with limited powers to do the will of the people. Its purpose was to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquillity, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

The Constitution (a bankruptcy compact) designates and limits the powers of the newly established central government and restrict its venue to a district not exceeding 10 miles square and areas purchased for forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings.

The organic Constitution was created in 1787, adopted 1789, and amended 1791

The Constitution of the United States.

The original organic Constitution
was adopted by the corporation as
its "By-laws". The original Thirteenth Amendment was replaced, and other amendments added, some by fraud.

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REPUBLIC

" I pledge allegiance to The United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, One nation under God"

"Republican"
(means "common rights")
form of government

"Government of the people
and by the people"

A republic is a self governing forum wherein a free, sovereign, moral, and enlightened people guarantee to one another and to all minorities the right and obligation to have, retain, and protect each other's God given common Rights to Life, Freedom, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness in their separate capacities as free inhabitants and or as free Sovereign people within a nation, state (nation state), and or a country, all by positively accepting the Oaths as recipients of the oaths of their servants holding public office.

The people created a republican form of government with limitations on their servants.

The people are the government,
not their servants.

"...shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government"
--Constitution, Art. IV Sec 4

At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs Powel anxiously awaited the results, and as Benjamin Franklin emerged, asked him directly: "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" "A republic if you can keep it" responded Franklin.

DEMOCRACY

"Democracy"
(means "Priest rule")

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.
During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage."

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FLAG

Civil Flag
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Intended for peace time usage, denoting civil jurisdiction under the Constitution and common law, has vertical stripes, blue stars on white background--last flown before Civil War.

Military Flag
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Corporate Flag
FLAGwGoldFringe.gif

Some say it is a flag of Admiralty/Maritime type jurisdiction and is not suppose to be used on Land. Others say it's not a flag at all, but fiction.
However, the gold fringe which surrounds the flag gives notice that the American flag has been captured and is now being used by the corporate so-called government to give notice of its jurisdiction.

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Lawful Money

Has substance

Controlled by
Treasury of the united States of America

Lawful Money consist of:

   1. Silver coins* (Silver Specie)
      Silver dollar--standard unit of value containing 90% silver
   2. Gold Coins* containing 90% gold
   3. Spanish milled dollar called the "real." and its fractional parts such as the "medio" (half-real).
   4. Warehouse receipts or certificates redeemable in gold or silver* such as "Silver Certificates" and "Gold Certificates" are not in itself money but is an exchange for a specified amount of lawful money.

Legal Tender

Units of Monetized Debt

Has no substance--Built on credit

Controlled by US Treasury

Legal Tender consists of:

   1. Federal Reserve Notes
   2. Bonds
   3. Other Notes--evidences of debt.
   4. Tokens--clad coinage having no inherent asset value.
   5. "A unit of debt" in a cashless society--Electronic banking.

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Sovereigns
   
Living Souls coming out of mothers womb onto the land of a state of the union are "Sovereign", "Freemen", and "Freeborn" unless that right is given up knowingly, intentionally, and voluntarily upon full disclosure.

Amendment X
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, ...are reserved to ...the people."

The people are Sovereign

"...at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects... with none to govern but themselves; the citizens of America are equal as fellow citizens, and as joint tenants in the sovereignty."
--Chisholm v. Georgia (US) 2 Dall 419, 454, 1 L Ed 440, 455 @Dall 1793 pp471-472

Citizens

US citizens (Chattel Property) are belligerents in the field and are "subject to its jurisdiction" (Washington DC)

U.S. citizens are 14th Amendment citizens implemented by the Civil Rights Act of 1866 originally established for the newly freed slaves.

Today, almost all mothers, black or white, unknowingly inform on their own babies. Take a look at the so-called "Birth Certificate" CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH where the mother signs and you will see the title of the box stating in small print:
"MOTHER OR OTHER INFORMANT".

The word "OTHER" makes the mother "an informant." By signing the "Birth Certificate" as an informer, she contracts with the government putting her child and her child's future labor as collateral for the national debt (servitude--slavery). The father or mother can rescind the contract within three business days.

Since the Birth Certificate neither lists the father as the husband nor lists the wife's acceptance of the father's surname as her own but has the mothers maiden name instead, the baby is considered a BASTARD. Bastards are therefore under the care and control of the Priest Rule (democracy) and can be taken from the mother at any time.

The hospitals receive a fairly large monetary benefit ($3,000, more or less, per child) from the corporate government for having Birth Certificates filled out and signed. 

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Judicial Name
(Appellation)

Flesh and blood name
of a living soul


John James, Christianson

Note upper and lower case
(Proper by Rules of English Grammar)


Christian Appellation: John James   (Sole property)
Family Name: Christianson   (Common property)

"Prisoner of war" name
Fictitious " nom de guerre " name
for a non-living entity:
also referred to as the "Strawman"
and/or "Transmitting Utility"

JOHN DOE
Note: name is in all capital letters
a.k.a. all CAPS

John C. Doe
Note: middle initial
(No name at all--A fiction)

First Name: JOHN
Middle Initial: C.
Last Name: DOE

A fictional persona
being surety for the debt
as a fiction in commerce

Look at the name on Drivers Licenses, Social Security cards, Credit Cards, Deeds, Bank Accounts, etc.

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Freeborn

Freeman
Freeholder
Sovereign
"We the people..."

Bond Servant
To cover the debt in 1933 and future debt, the corporate government determined and established the value of the future labor of each individual in its jurisdiction to be $630,000. A bond of $630,000 is set on each Certificate of Live Birth. The certificates are bundled together into sets and then placed as securities on the open market. These certificates are then purchased by the Federal Reserve and/or foreign bankers. The purchaser is the "holder" of "Title." This process made each and every person in this jurisdiction a bond servant.

You can ask a broker to check your SSN on the exchange and you'll see the value of your stock.

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Unalienable Rights
Rights from God

Inalienable
Rights from the corporate government

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Judicial Branch of government established by Article III of the Constitution
   
Separate from Executive and Legislative branches of government

Judicial venue

Ministerial court system
To serve the people--"Servant"

The 7th Amendment guarantees a trial by jury according to the rules of the common law when the value in controversy exceeds Twenty dollars [in silver specie; not FRN's]

Common Law
(Law not written)

Common Law is based on custom and usage and includes the Magna Carta and The great Charter of the Forest

Common Law has two basic requirements:

   1. Do not Offend Anyone
   2. Honor all contracts [/i]

So-called Judicial system and Legislature
are under the President

The Judicial is not separate
although it may appear that way.

Most courts today are Article I or Article II courts.

Federal (feudal) venue

Administrative court system
Responsible to the administration
--"Support"

All legal actions are pursued under
the "color of law"

Color of law means
"appears to be" law, but is not

Civil Law
based on the Roman Civil Law

Covers a vast number of volumes of text that even attorneys can't absorb or comprehend such as:

   1. Regulations
   2. Codes
   3. Rules
   4. Statutes

There are now over 60 million of these so-called laws on the books. Keep in mind "ignorance of the law is no excuse" Everyone must be guilty of something. The more so-called laws, the more revenue generated.

Prior to bankruptcy of 1933 "Public Law"

Now the so-called courts administer "Public Policy" through the "Uniform Commercial Code" (instituted in 1967)

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Lawful  or Unlawful - Legal or Illegal

General Law - Private, internal law

Suit - Action

Accusor - Plaintiff

Accused - Defendant

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"Claim"
other terms used: "true bill," "libel"

   
"Charge"
Charged with...(a negative)
(payment or retribution is the positive)
"an assertion that someone is guilty of a fault or offence"
"(criminal law) a pleading describing some wrong or offense"

"Writ"
Writ of Habeas corpus, Writ of Mandamus
Writ of Error, Writ of Prohibition
Writ of Certiorari

   
"Motion"

Emit writs

Submit documents

"Present"
Present as ones self.

   
"Represent"
derived from re-present.
To present as someone else.
To re-present as the "Ens Legis"
a.k.a. STRAWMAN name
If you are represented, you are a ward of the court and are incompetent or a juvenile.

"Venue"
(A place)
"the county from which the jury are to come, who are to try the issue" --Bouvier's Law Dictionary

   
"Re-venue"
Now often seen as "revenue" which refers to monies collected by changing ones venue to a corporate government venue.

"in-law"
(i.e. "Son-in-law" or a "covenant in law")

Submersed in (true) law.
Dealing with Law itself.

   
"at Law"
"Attorney at law"

Can be at something
but not submersed in it
or a part of it.
On the outside of law, not in it.

"Private" side
   
"Public" side

man, woman, child
"one of the people"

   
"Person"
defined as a corporation, trust, partnership,...(all fictions)

"the people"
mankind

   
"Persons"

Counsel
or "Counsellor in-Law"
(Lawyer)

No license required

No registration required

No Bar card required

Just need to know the Law.

The Law is simple

Do not Offend Anyone

Honor all contracts

And of course, you have to obey "Natures law"
such as "gravity" or "breathe air to live."

   
Attorney
an "Esquire" (British nobility)
a title meaning 'Shield Bearer'

Attorney-at-law
The defense Attorney, the Prosecutor, and the so-called Judge are all attorneys doing business in the corporate administrative courts (tribunals) of the U.S. as agents of the Crown of England

Attorneys swear an oath to uphold the
"BAR ASSOCIATION".

The BAR ASSOCIATION is registered with the INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE as a religious 501(c)(3) organization.

Some people believe that the first letter of B.A.R stands for "British".
(British Accredited Registry).
This could be a myth, although the "bar" term may have originated in London having to do with an obstruction that denies or allows entrance such as "raising the bar" being a bridge or a gate.

The BAR in the U.S. was first organized in Mississippi in 1825.

The "integrated bar" movement, meaning "the condition precedent to the right to practice law," was initiated in the US in 1914 by the American Jurisprudence Society.

More at http://www.gemworld.com/USAvsUS.htm

#4290 Re: The Garden » Wisconsin liberals trying to rig election » 920 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

I certainly don't want non-citizens capable of running our government.  Our Constituion prevents any non-natural born citizen from running for starters, and I have no interest in people who have nothing to lose coming to America and changing our laws to fit what worked in their small and culturally cohesive European country.

In the sense that when they pass the proper exams, have the right experience and fit the right criteria etc. they automatically become 'citizens' on the same line as those simply born within the borders. Inviting outside qualifications diversifies and strengthens a nation.

In my perfect world though, we'd have one ruler; the good, philosopher King.

I fear that's the only real chance of any change at this point. The only, possibly good effect of world 'cooperation' and consolidation.

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