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#4291 Re: The Garden » Second school massacre in Finland - within a year » 920 weeks ago

Hand guns are the essence of the right to own and bear protection. You gonna trust the police to help you out? Their job is primarily to solve the crime, and scare you into not committing one yourself, but they are very likely to not be there as it is actually happening.

Sadly a lot of guns and poverty don't go to well together, but lets attack the cause, not the effect.

#4292 Re: The Garden » Wisconsin liberals trying to rig election » 920 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Current state laws don't require any form of ID.  I'm not asking for a chip or bio card; just a state issued ID to prove identity.  The state ID card would serve to show that the individual is a legal resident of that state and thus allowed to vote in that state.  I'm interested in preventing voter fraud, and the policy supported by Republicans is of minimal if any inconvience to voters.  People bringing in a water bill to show that they reside in the area they are claiming residency is not sufficient in today's political environment.

Agreed, as long as it is a normal clean ID. Not one of their tricks. 

I made it quite clear that both parties pander to bias and prejudices, but Democrats are notorius for attacking Republicans for fear mongering (ask any Democrat why Bush won in 04) and I'm simply stating that the primary platform and campaign message of Democrats is that you will starve and die penniless in the streets if you don't elect us.  At least when Republicans quote national security as cause for their election there is substantial evidence to show that foreign elements wish to committ acts of terroism within our boarders.

Of course there are differences in the fear mongering, but it's still fear mongering. The republicans, as the democrats, have all resorted to conscious and malicious acts of distorting, inflating and flat out lying to influence the electorate and voters. In many administrations. There are no excuses here, for either side.

Finally, Florida has been solved for 8 years now.  Bush won it fair in square.  Those ballots were counted many times over and Bush came up as the victor every time.  Even the NY Times stated that Bush won that election.  Just because some people couldn't punch a hole in a fucking ballot or got confused and voted for the wrong person (presumably) doesn't mean we can suddenly count votes or voters that don't follow the law.

I'm not talking about the count, I'm talking about the 80 something thousand voters who were rejected to vote based on some 'mistake' involving W.'s brother. Most of them black, ie. democrats. Bush won with 600 votes. Do the math. Not to mention the ruling judge who landed the fat government position a few years later.

#4293 Re: The Garden » Wisconsin liberals trying to rig election » 920 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

Although this opinion won't be popular, I have said for a long time that I don't believe every American who reaches the age of 18 should be a citizen, at least a "citizen" as is currently defined.  I wholy support requiring people to serve in some capacity (peace corps type bullshit shouldn't count) of the public sector for an undefined time (maybe 2 years) to earn the right to be a citizen; ala Starship Troopers.  I would also support a voting exam that at least tests the voter for the same expectations we expect out of nationalized citizens.  A current events/civics portion would also help to weed out complete morons (read swing voters.)

I would go further than that. Voting, the legislative, judicial and executive should all be exclusive to a smaller group educated and trained in the arts deemed necessary. Open to all of course, present citizen or not. The benefits should be great to avoid corruption, and the penalties for engaging in it total.

Elections all over the world has turned into circuses where officials are elected on tricks and bravado. And we're in total chaos because of it.

#4294 Re: The Garden » Wisconsin liberals trying to rig election » 920 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

It's always the democrats committing voter fraud.  People like to bitch about Ohio in 2004 and claim fraud took place there.  But the only fraud in Ohio in 2004 occured in Cleveland when two democratic poll workers were changing ballots from Bush to Kerry.

Florida. Both camps are guilty.

They call Republicans fear mongerers, but it's the Democrats who thrive off of fear and intimidation by running on platforms like global warming, gun-control, social security and abortion (claiming women would die in back allys) just to name  a few.

Again, they are both doing it. You just gonna pretend the last 8 years didn't happen?

No one is innocent in this, but I see nothing wrong with policies that require residents to have a state issued ID to validate that they are indeed whom they claim to be and are capable to vote.

Require residents? I'm a free man in a free state? I don't require anything. Especially not something that puts me in a database like a criminal.

Democrats oppose such legislation because a substantial portion of their voter base is unable to show proof of identity when voting which of course is a huge concern for voter fraud.  Obviously some people in that category are unable to legally vote for numerous reasons, so Democrats oppose legislation requiring stricter identification criteria because they thrive off of voter fraud.  Then again, when they can't win outright, they follow the law to a T and they just get the opposing guy kicked off the ballot as Obama did.

I follow the principle, but a normal ID should be enough. There's certainly no need for a forced bio card mirroring schutzstaffel. As for the immigrants, strengthen the fuckin' borders. It's not rocket science. Yet your faction is 'unable' to do anything about it.

#4295 Re: Guns N' Roses » AFD CERTIFIED 18 MILLION UNITS IN US » 920 weeks ago

You could probably add another million or so a couple of years after CD is released, maybe pushing it in the top 10.

Pretty impressive, and will lead added credence to the band in the future, something we've already seen over the last years.

#4296 Re: The Garden » Bush Asks Congress for $700 Billion Bailout » 920 weeks ago

It's funny how a lot of people attribute this crisis to the free market, when in fact it's the absence of it.

Sadly these highly perceptive commentaries are lost in the shuffle of sensationlist mass media and deceptive politicians.

Getting rid of the FED should've been the major campaign issue this year, and lots before it. The FEDs credentials since its inception are 1 great depression (perhaps 2) and a steady stream of booms and busts every 10 years or so for the last century. Clearly it does not fulfull its stated purpose and should be fully abolished in favor of a market run, debt free economy. This is not rocket science, it's just been hammered down our throats by the world bankers for so long that we know of no other reality.

#4297 Re: The Garden » Palin Power » 922 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

IF the fix is in, its more likely to be in favor of McCain.

Want more war? McCain will give it to you in large doses if needed.

High oil prices? McCain can deliver those shipments just as easily as Obama.

Last but not least, there's a rising, attractive star on his ticket who can be groomed over the next 16 years.

She could be a morphing of Reagan/Thatcher. The "elite" most certainly recognize this.

Well sure, McCain offers more of the same. Obama however, with his young face, charisme, vitality and intelligence, offers 'change'.

Remember, what the 'elite' is doing now is just a means to an end. McCain represents the means, Obama the end. Of course the result will be the same either way, but at the present Obama seem to be the favored choice of ushering in this 'change'. Have you seen his 'running for world president' speech in Berlin where he calls for forced 'cooperation'? That is a JFK type of persona in the making. An idol as opposed to the cliche old white man.

Clearly he is the preferred choice, with McCain as the plan B. This you see in the controlled media also. Obama has from the beginning being cut a lot of slack.

#4298 Re: The Garden » Palin Power » 922 weeks ago

Perhaps...but I'll quote Georgie boy from when the election results came in late 2000; We're doing good in a lot of states we thought we wouldn't.

We all know who actually won, and that he didn't wind up in the White House.

Point is, McCain may be looking good among the voters, but Obama is the one looking the best among the elite. Like, elections have been fixed before...

#4299 Re: The Garden » Democrats’ latest idea: gas stamps » 922 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

How about just LOWERING THE FUCKING PRICES?


Or is that too hard for the most powerful country in the world? No, it's cause America is making money off of that high gas.

The U.S. is not a dictatorship, officially, so you simply can't do that.

Oil is high for many reasons. A ban on drilling the domestic fields that are actually left, inflation due to ridiculous spending and public lending, price manipulation by the Opec cartel and no doubt the oil companies themselves (Exxon makes 15 billion, record, net profits in the first quarter of 2008...) and of course a legislative dependent on these criminals. Not to mention a drugged down majority of the voting populace not knowing or giving a shit.

So there's not much 'just' about it.

#4300 Re: The Garden » Democrats’ latest idea: gas stamps » 922 weeks ago

Your politicians are implementing social programs even the Norwegian government would have had trouble selling. And we're cheek in eye called 'the last soviet state'.

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