IF we're worried about the Sun in a billion years, we deserve to be extinct.  We should have Mars colonized within the next 250 years.

I have no interest in making personal attacks and if my post was received as such, I apologize.  However, if someone uses a personal story as center piece of their argument, it is logical and reasonable to use that same story in a counter argument.  If I ever reference my military service as a center piece in an argument, feel free to call me a brainwashed baby killer or elitist officer

I'm not trying to be an asshole.  You advocate a position that affects my wallet.  I nor is anyone else responsible for the actions of others.  I'm not telling you how to live your life; I would never be so arrogant or presumptious to assume I could tell you what best fits your time on Earth.  What I will say is that the vast majority of Americans have health care from their employer, qualify for medicare/medicade or elect to not receive health care even though they make enough to afford it.  Only 3 million people in America don't fall into the above categories - which constiitutes 1%.  I refuse to change from having the best and most efficient care in the world to a mediocre system just because a very small minority can't receive care.  If only 1% are without the option of care, I'd say we're doing pretty damn good. 

I'll debate with anyone all day long; just don't run on the premise that I or anyone else owes you something because you intentionally make/made choices to put you in a bad postion.  You can't get mad at me for making a personal example against your argument when you made a personal example for yours.  Being that we have the best care in the world and Obama's plan still wouldn't eliminate the 1% w/o care, I fail to see a reason to support socialized medicine.

Socialized medicine is a can of worms you people don't want to open.  If you let the govt play mommy and daddy to you, you're gonna get treated like a kid again and all your vices and unhealthy choices will be taxed to extreme portions or just outright outlawed.  It's already happening with smoking bans and transfat bans and the govt doesn't even pay for the majority of people yet.

Ok, explain how he plans on doing those?  I support a focus on emission change, but my plan probably differs from what Obama would implement.  How does he want to improve education?  Bush created the No Child Left Behind Act and supports school vouchers which would do much more for an increase in quality of eduation than the tenure that exists in problem schools. 

health care reform is not needed.  If you remove illegal aliens and those who can afford health care but choose not to pay for it, approx 3 million Americans are not insured.  If you don't have healthcare it's because you work a job that requires no competiton and your employer does not have to offer benefits to keep good workers or you choose not to pay for it and spend your money elsewhere.  Just because you choose to have children and work a job that doesn't provide you with the level of care you think you're entitled to doesn't mean I should have to pay for your poor choices in life.  I'm sure there were a multitude of factors in the costs of your delivery; personal doctors, special treatment, etc.  I personally know a family who had a premature child and Medicare paid for all the treatments.  Regardless, Obama's plan doesn't cover everyone so it's a moot point.  If you want the cost of healthcare to drop, allow the market forces to become involved and place a cap on the get rich quick lawsuits for everyone who feels they were wronged.