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#4331 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 918 weeks ago
Yeah, Obama has to leave his "change" shtick at the door and actually start talking about actual issues and what his plans are. If he doesn't, the coffin will be nailed shut in the coming weeks. People might not like Hillary, but they know where she stands.
The Huckabee situation is interesting. Conservatives are bailing out on the republicans(just like I did during Bush's first term), and it will be interesting to see if they rally around Huckabee even though he doesn't have a chance. The hatred of McCain runs deep. He represents four more years of Bush, and the conservative base of the party is fucking sick of it. If they want a liberal that spends money like it grows on trees, they will either vote democratic or stay home in November. A Hillary candidacy will get some of them to go ahead and vote for McCain, but not the majority of them.
Conservatives want their party back that the neo-cons raped and pillaged, and a McCain presidency isn't going to do it. I think conservatives are willing to concede this election to the democrats and hope they can find a real conservative to oppose Hillary or Obama in 2012.
All this talk from the Limbaughs, Coulters,etc. isn't just hot air. Its an actual movement going on in the party.
If the republicans can find a conservative thats actually electable, I will rejoin the republican party in time for the 2012 election.
McCain isn't a neo-con and won't be 4 more years of Bush no matter how disenfranchised you are from the GOP. It amazes me how people can claim they left the Republican party because of Bush, but then go vote for Obama or Clinton. The beleifs behind true conservatism and liberalism are on opposite ends of the spectrum. Neo-Cons are nothing more than Liberals with a different agenda. But if you claimed you were a Republican and now vote Democrat, you were never a Republican in the first place. Simply put, Neo-Cons and Democrats alike are both Statist.
edit: I'm tired of people saying "I used to be a Republican" as if that makes their argument any more valid or stronger. From now on I'm going to say I used to be a Democrat, so whatever I say must be more valid or in touch with the people. Newsflash, people who continually change parties lack conviction and a political ideology and go with whatever is trendy.
#4332 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 918 weeks ago
With the exception of MA and MN, none of Romney's wins don't count for shit. Besides GA, Huck has won nothing of any substance. I further argue that besides Mississippi and Kentucky, Huckabee's ship has sailed. Romney is basically toast as I predict a huge turn around from the Coulters and Hannity's after CPAC this weekend.
As I predicted, Hillary won the majority of the states of any substance and besides Illinois and Minnesota, Obama won a bunch of junk states that provide little delegates and that he has no chance of winning in the november election.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. John McCain and Hillary Clinton are our Presidential nominees.
#4333 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 918 weeks ago
James is right about Repubs wanting Hillary to get the nomination, but there will be no Reagan-esque win for Obama regardless. Reagan won every state but Oregon. Obama wishes he could be so lucky.
#4334 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 918 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:I'm waiting on delegate numbers, but I think Clinton will have effectively nullified Obama. While choosing Clinton to be Obama's VP would be of no benefit to Obama, Hillary picking Obama as her VP would do her much good.
I can't think of any well known Republican that would do well with McCain that is feasible. He needs a candidate that applies to the Romney base and not too many of them exist. I just hope McCain stays the course and doesn't get involved with the Jesus Heads. I don't care what people do in their bedroom and we need to keep guys like Jim Bob in business
dude if it didn't totally contradict my profession I would vote republican. In terms of economics, I much prefer the conservative side of things.. but on the social issues I tend to lean more liberal. When I lived in AZ i was registered as a Republican but when I moved to NV I just registered as independent because of what I don't.
I don't see how Republicans necessarily would be against the adult industry. There are certain areas of it that are of concern, but those areas are already illegal. Republicans jerk off just as much as Democrats or anyone else. While Huckabee would certainly pose a concern, I don't see how McCain or possibly even Romney would be able to go after the industry. If it couldn't be stopped in the 70s or 80s, there is nothing to worry about now. Unless you're making snuff films or have a Traci Lords in your midst, I think you're fine.
#4335 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 918 weeks ago
Randall Flagg wrote:bigbri wrote:Randall, the delegates are gonna remain close in the Dems race because, like I said, Obama is winning a vast majority of the suburban vote vs. Hilary in the big city. He's winning more geographically. And there are races after Super Tuesday that Obama is leading in, such as Hawaii and D.C. He just needs to keep it close tonight. Then he can close the gap based on those future races.
But none of those races mean anything, they don't provide any delegates. That's the issue here. Obama could win all the states around Colorado and it wouldn't mean anything if Clinton won Cali by a substantial margin. I know people hate to hear it, but some states don't even play a factor in the process. This is something McCain needs to consider; he's won NY and CA, but he stands no chance of winning them in November. The same states that matter in November are the ones that matter now.
But they do mean something. Hilary wins Mass., for example, based on the area of population she wins. Obama actually wins more of the state, thus more districts, thus more delegates. Like Nevada. Hilary won Vegas, Obama won more of the state. Your headline the next day was: Hilary wins Nevada. Well, Ok, but Obama got more delegates out of it.
Do you not understand how that works or are you just trying to be argumentative?
I totally understand how it works, but states like Hawaii and DC don't provide any delegates of value. Hillary is still leading in delegates. Delegates still basically follow the popular vote and Hillary is still leading the popular vote overall. Wait a few hours and you'll see that Clinton won more delegates tonight than Obama, increasing her edge. People are going to take notice of that. You can't say Obama has momentum when he continually is outperformed by Hillary.
#4336 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 918 weeks ago
Randall, the delegates are gonna remain close in the Dems race because, like I said, Obama is winning a vast majority of the suburban vote vs. Hilary in the big city. He's winning more geographically. And there are races after Super Tuesday that Obama is leading in, such as Hawaii and D.C. He just needs to keep it close tonight. Then he can close the gap based on those future races.
But none of those races mean anything, they don't provide any delegates. That's the issue here. Obama could win all the states around Colorado and it wouldn't mean anything if Clinton won Cali by a substantial margin. I know people hate to hear it, but some states don't even play a factor in the process. This is something McCain needs to consider; he's won NY and CA, but he stands no chance of winning them in November. The same states that matter in November are the ones that matter now.
#4337 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 918 weeks ago
I'm waiting on delegate numbers, but I think Clinton will have effectively nullified Obama. While choosing Clinton to be Obama's VP would be of no benefit to Obama, Hillary picking Obama as her VP would do her much good.
I can't think of any well known Republican that would do well with McCain that is feasible. He needs a candidate that applies to the Romney base and not too many of them exist. I just hope McCain stays the course and doesn't get involved with the Jesus Heads. I don't care what people do in their bedroom and we need to keep guys like Jim Bob in business 
#4338 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 918 weeks ago
I disagree with your asseriton that Obama's electability is thrown out the window. Obama is winning in Southern states where he has no chance of winning in November, and won in Deleware where he got 90% of the black vote. While Obama is a contender, he hasn't won across the board the way Clinton has.
#4339 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 918 weeks ago
Don't get caught up in number of states won. It's all about delegates. If Clinton and McCain both pull off NY and CA, the race is decided and those are are two nominees. I don't know Huckabee's background, does he have a law degree? Outside of the VP spot, I don't see what cabinent position he is qualified for.
#4340 Re: The Garden » The Super Tuesday thread » 918 weeks ago
If Romney drops out, there's no point in even continuing the Republican nomination. Huckabee would be destroyed against a McCain/Huckabee race. While I am suprised with Huckabee's success, I'm not happy that a bible thumper is doing so well in America.
Clinton is doing quite well in the important states, but as James said, California will be the big factor here. The same rings truw with Romney, if he doesn't win California, his campaign is done. I just hope McCain isn't promising Huck a VP seat.
