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#451 Re: Guns N' Roses » Why do people tend to take Tommy's word for everything? » 178 weeks ago
You're right and I don't like to peddle the myth that it was Axl holding CD back. I think it has been established that it was the label that refused to release it until Azoff managed to secure a deal for them to cut their losses. The leaks probably helped in that regard too, either they release the album now and get something out of it, or the whole thing would eventually leak and they would get nothing. Axl was caught in the middle of this game and I think that is what he is referring to when he says the struggles with CD was the worst of his life. He wanted the thing out there in 2001, maybe earlier, but the labels opposition and the media hostility made it into a living nightmare.
That being said there are no vocals for Oklahoma in the locker leaks. Very possible he added them later considering what you mention, but why wasn't it already finished? The song dated back years and judging by how good the instrumental is you would think it would be a priority to include on your comeback album. That same can be said about CD. Why isn't a song like Oklahoma included there? We say CD is a leaks album, and yes it mostly is, but there are also some non leaks on there. Robin Finck says he persuaded Axl to add TIL on the album, so apparently it wasn't just the record company making those decisions. Why didn't Axl include any of the mythical big guns to boost his chances of success? Instead we get Shackler and Scraped. New songs, but not very good ones.
It gets worse when you consider Hard Skool. They decided to splice in some half done vocals from Eye on You, because obviously that song was never completed beyond its locker leaks form, and there was no unheard Axl material to take it from either, and apparently it was completely out of the question for Axl to do any new vocals. With the release of Absurd and Hard Skool we are again facing a "leaks album". Is that because they were leaked, or is it because most of Axl's material has already leaked and that's all we are going to get?
He talks about doing all these vocals but where is the evidence? To me it seems he had a major creative burst in 99-01 which basically gave us CD, and then a smaller burst in 06-07 which gave us Better, Sorry, Scraped, Shackler, If the World etc. Some good songs there, but clearly the 99-01 period is superior.
#452 Re: Guns N' Roses » Why do people tend to take Tommy's word for everything? » 178 weeks ago
Merck talked about Axl's "muse" back in 2006 and said it wasn't up to Axl if that muse was present or not. Suggesting he wanted to record but lacked inspiration to create anything good. Unfortunately that situation might be more relevant for the big gun instrumentals, like Oklahoma, because with those the pressure was all the greater for Axl to add vocals that could live up to the epicness of the song.
Better, Sorry vocals were added after the locker leaks sessions, and there was also reportedly some work done by Axl in 06/07, but apart from that I think he has felt no need to go into a studio. Creatively he's done for and he knows it.
#453 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 178 weeks ago
It's strange comparing fan attitudes on the forums with facebook. Here we struggle to find anything positive to say, but over there the fans are acting like it's 1991 and things couldn't be better.
#454 Re: Guns N' Roses » Billboard Top 25 Rock Albums this week » 179 weeks ago
Rock n Roll died at the same time the West did. More than anything it was the music genre that defined the post war West. When they started ushering in the new world about 20 years ago there was no room for rebellious white men in the culture anymore. What you are seeing now is dying men bying dead music. In 30-40 years you won't even need a rock chart because all the fans will be dead. You never see another Tacitus or Aristophanes after about 200AD. This is the same thing.
#455 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 179 weeks ago
Metallica is out of ideas so they are throwing shit at the wall to see if it sticks. They should just face the fact they are past it. Lars is making excuses for himself. They didn't have experience, leisure and money when they made Master of Puppets and Black Album?
The only reason the CD material is interesting is because it is 20 years old, recorded when the players were still in their prime. I would be very lukewarm towards a brand new GN'R album because I know 60 year olds rarely set the world on fire. It would be a curiosity, nothing more.
In that sense Axl is keeping it real. He's got nothing to say and he's not pretending otherwise.
#456 Re: Guns N' Roses » Using AI to give Axl Rose´s voice back » 179 weeks ago
I want to redub all his shows with 86 vocals. That would be something.
#457 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 180 weeks ago
We did get the two so at least initially it was more than just talk. Whatever that means for the future is up in the air, but the possibility persists. As long as Axl doesn't have to do anything it could happen. It would be almost tragicomic if it is the label that has put a wrench in plans, by complaining about the lack of sales. I can picture Axl not caring himself.
#458 Re: The Sunset Strip » Pink Floyd feud goes nuclear » 180 weeks ago
I think that, but I also think "what if Layne Staley was never a heroin addict?". What would he be doing then? Not "Sick Man", for sure.
#459 Re: The Sunset Strip » Metallica - Lux Aterna » 180 weeks ago
Ecstasy of Gold intro is just bad for a Metallica show. They could do the Sesame Street theme song and it would sound less out of place. Totally different energies.
#460 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 180 weeks ago
GN'R is the type of band where the former heroin dealer gets the fuck out of there because it is too stressful to be around Axl, Slash and Duff on a daily basis. A lot of selfishness and self indulgence. They may have quit the drugs but they haven't changed. And who can blame them? All the money is in the touring. As long as they are selling tickets there is no reason to do anything else.
We're lucky they're even talking about releasing material.
