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#41 Re: Guns N' Roses » Magnum Opus: New Book on the Making of Chinese Democracy » 14 weeks ago
polluxlm wrote:Anything interesting?
There is a few, like Pitman saying that, in addition to the material written by band members, there was material from outside songwriters (who were "big names") coming in.
That's honestly perplexing and i don't know if the context provided by Pittman is accurate.
Could i see Axl getting feedback from Alice Cooper, Lars Ulrich or Billy Corgin absolutely but from someone outside of his trusted group of Tobias or before they passed Arkeen and Hoon or the current band at the time is doubtful.
Izzy is known to have written songs.
Maybe Les Claypool ?
#42 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 14 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:Maybe this is a garden of eden and the garden situation ?
That's a good point. Axl might get inspired by something and write more than one song revolving around a similar theme. They might call them both something like Elvis tentatively then later they settle for something else, or not.
I still wonder why songs like State of Grace, Circus Maximus or Quicksong never became anything. They sound so much better than some of the other stuff to my ears.
Axl decided it was better for Absurd, Perhaps and The General to be A sides on the reunion era releases over Monsters, Oklahoma and Quick Song.
Can someone explain that logic ?
#43 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 14 weeks ago
So let's clarify the minion who said The General was a Monster was the bands manager Fernando.
The argument regarding the bridge can be thrown out the window with the bridges from Better and State Of Grace sounding similar to Monsters bridge, is that a fair statement.
The black sabbath sound to monsters is a fair statement.
The statement that lyric soul appears is also a fair statement.
Disregarding the unlikelihood of 2 songs having Elvis in the title is unfair.
Maybe this is a garden of eden and the garden situation ?
Overlooking what the definition of the word Monstrosity is in your words wishcasting.
#44 Re: Guns N' Roses » Quick Song=Cuban Skies? » 14 weeks ago
Well i don't know if @mistersaintlaurent will join us in this thread however he's publicly stated on various discords posting as himself since 2019 that Cuban Skies is indeed the new name of Quick Song. That he believe it has the potential to be hit !
When a individual with such a keen ear and a high level of musical intellect states such things loudly in public then i for one take notice.
I myself have had private conversations with Mister Saint Laurent regarding the matter but since those conversations occured in non public setting it would be a abandonment of trust and uncouth to divulge futher details shared in those conversations.
I hope this answered your question to some degree.
If anyone would like to discuss my post on badapplesforum please feel free to post on there or message me here though I'm not on here daily.
#45 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 14 weeks ago
There is piles of evidence that Soul Monster is Monsters and almost none that it is connected to Me And My Elvis. Pure wishcasting.
Well the dictionary has this monstrosity
noun
One that is monstrous.
The quality or character of being monstrous.
The state of being monstrous, or out of the common order of nature; that which is monstrous; a monster.
So there's that
Also Me and My Elvis whiched leaked on the "19" leaked village sessions discs clearly is a different song from Monsters does everyone agree ?
Axl states in the chats that Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul aka The Soul Monster (working title Leave Me Alone)" which will no doubt end up "Soul Monster". We all agree on this right ?
Then whole Perhaps/General and Monsters album that was orginally available for presale. So Axl was going to have a song he claimed as his most vicious vocal be a bonus song on a b side or is it more likely that The General and Monster are supposed to be played back to back, that Monsters is a continuation of the general ?
We have more anecdotal evidence over here https://badapplesforum.com/threads/unre … 10/page-10
Please don't give me shit for linking a topic on badapplesforum. James is longtime friend of mine and so is Bls.
I also have literally praised Sic work on Chinese Whispers for years.
If you disagree with me that Soul Monster and Monsters is different song list a reason other then monster's is in the title or i will point out how absurd out of 41 to 52 completed songs 2 have Elvis in the title.
#46 Re: Guns N' Roses » 1986 Rehearsal Leak » 14 weeks ago
This stage in the band's career feels so anemic compared to 20 or 10 years ago. They got old, the culture changed, the world passed by. It's like when they ask Frank Sheeran "who are you protecting? everybody is dead". Leaks at this point simply doesn't matter anymore. A handful of fans still care, but even they don't care all that much. It's depressing but that's the way of things.
I feel the same applies to fans in general. There is no life to it anymore. Just an old memory you can't quite let go, but you know it is simply over and never coming back.
Valid and sad at the same time
#47 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2026 Tour Dates » 14 weeks ago
I love how 3 of their "new" songs have already been thrown into the list of alternates.
Gotta keep those covers though...can't risk dying from boredom onstage.
Well can you blame them after hearing the "new" songs ?
#48 Re: Guns N' Roses » 1986 Rehearsal Leak » 14 weeks ago
Simply put....all this shit was hoarded for too long.
Yeah timing and the understanding of interest is not something Hoarders and Management comprehend.
#49 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 14 weeks ago
AtariLegend wrote:polluxlm wrote:Unless Axl wrote multiple songs based on Ancient Rome it seems to be a good theory.
You might be right, but 2 things;
Remember how we thought Me and My Elvis was Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul (which was renamed Monsters?) Well clearly it wasn't. Just 2 different tracks that had the words Elvis in the title. Unless it turns out Monsters isn't Soul Monster - which again would further prove the point anyway.
Also the track was supposedly called Ides of March in 98 on conception. I suppose they could have renamed it Circus Maximus in 2000 then changed the back in the early 00s to Ides again, but still... (see chinese whispers].
My theory is that these songs were intended to be an album-ending suite.
Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul
The General and MonstersSo, maybe the suite was something like The General, Me & My Elvis, and Soul Monster,
Makes sense
#50 Re: Guns N' Roses » Mustache » 14 weeks ago
@matiaslegrand
6 months ago
Song written by Pete Scaturro and Carroll. Vocals recorded by Axl in the first "remake-sessions" in 2002/2003. Discarded at the 2004 major overhaul.That could be an educated guess any of us could have made from listening to the song
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@matiaslegrand
6 days ago
@m.b4402 Yes. This song was about the french drummer and actor François-Alexandre Galepides alias Moustache, died in 1987. The chorus has samples from 'Two For The Road', a 70's film (Galepides played a role on it).Brain and the band at the time loved sampling old movies in songs (from the 70's) they were working on & intros both in studio and live (The joint shows).. It seems like something somebody might claim if they wanted fans of that era to believe them.
https://youtu.be/-L80LejWQn4?si=bXD1AeQaV_nmAhwG
Opening to mustache as a sample ?
