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#5551 Re: The Garden » Bush Asks Congress for $700 Billion Bailout » 921 weeks ago

Saikin wrote:

This whole idea of the US 'spreading democracy' is a joke, and completley ironic.

Yeah, it's 'spreading democracy' alright... but included in this bill is extra funding to teach our kids Chinese & Russian just in case. wink

#5552 Re: The Garden » Jake "The Snake" Implodes » 921 weeks ago

Yeah that "Beyond the Mat" was a messed up section on him. He's got alot of misplaced anger I'm sure. Still, he's pretty screwed up in that video, the wrestler did the right thing by just ending it.

#5553 Re: The Sunset Strip » Metallica and U2 to share the same stage?? » 921 weeks ago

Ya know, it's so crazy it just might work. Would certainly be a couple of "heavyweights".

#5554 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Famous Bass Players » 921 weeks ago

Oh sorry, I didn't really read your OP very well, I thought you were asking for a list to start a poll or just to compile a list to give them their deserved credit.

Of my list I'd say only Flea & Paul McCartney are "famous" to be known well on their own. The others are known to pretty true rock fans (except Mike Watt & myb Lemmy, alot of people wouldn't know him). And your right Gene Simmons & Sting, although I'm not a fan of either.

#5555 Re: The Garden » Bush Asks Congress for $700 Billion Bailout » 921 weeks ago

^ Agreed, however these aren't the types of companies that are easily bought out. $80 billion, is Microsoft even worth that much?? Nobody bought Lehman Bros did they? For good reason. And alot of these companies have 50,000+ employees who could get laid off (Merril Lynch, Smith Barney, Prudential etc). Also, a continual collapse of these corporations leads to people withdrawing their money from the market & banks, leaving them with less cash & more debt, and later more bankruptcies of companies (Chapter 11's). Then more layoffs, higher unemployment, less spending, even more layoffs in fields like retail, sales & advertising since companies earning less etc. Sure, in a free market it would balance out eventually, but at what point?  A depression with unemployment at 20+%??

I'm not saying this had to be done, or whether it's the right thing or the wrong thing to do, but I think some of those people do know alot more about it all & it's implications than you & me. I don't this this situation is an isolated bailout as much as it is an urgent prevention of an ultimate economic collapse. Who knows how bad the alternative could get. I don't know what industry you're in but it's possible in 6 months you & I could have been out of work.

It is due to failed oversight though, and fat cat CEO's & their companies need to be monitored in a better capacity than what's currently in place. For alot of industries, but especially financial, banking & lending.

#5556 Re: The Sunset Strip » Travis Barker In Plane Crash » 921 weeks ago

Yeah, wasn't much of a fan. They said he got out of the plane & was basically on fire along with the other guy & they were putting the flames out from each other. I think bystanders were walking by & helped put them out or something. For his sake, I hope he's not too burned, but on the other hand, he is lucky to have survived. Probably has a new outlook on life, that's for sure.

#5557 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Famous Bass Players » 921 weeks ago

Flea
Les Claypool
Geddy Lee
Paul McCartney
John Paul Jones
Cliff Burton
Mike Watt
Lemmy
Duff

#5558 The Sunset Strip » Travis Barker In Plane Crash » 921 weeks ago

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I just heard on the news that Travis Barker, drummer for Blink 182 was on the plane but one of the survivors. The other was a DJ AM from California.  They said something about Perry Ferrell earlier, but they weren't saying he was on it. I'm not sure if he owned the plane or was at the concert they were attending.

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(CNN) -- Former Blink-182 drummer Travis Barker and singer-song artist Adam "DJ AM" Goldstein were in critical condition with extensive burns Saturday after a jet crash the night before that killed four people, authorities said.


Two of the four who died late Friday were passengers and two were crew members, the National Transportation Safety Board said in a statement.

The NTSB has sent a Go Team to Columbia, South Carolina, to investigate the crash.

The Learjet 60 crashed on takeoff at the Columbia Metropolitan Airport at 11:53 p.m. Friday.

Beth Frits, spokeswoman at the Joseph Still Burn Center, in Augusta, Georgia, said Barker and Goldstein arrived at the hospital early Saturday. She said both men had "extensive burns."

The burn center is the largest in the country, and the main one in the Southeast, she said.

Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen said the twin-engine, private jet was cleared for takeoff on a flight to Van Nuys, California, and began its takeoff roll a few minutes before midnight.

Air traffic controllers "saw sparks coming from the runway -- whether that was from the aircraft or its engines, we don't know," Bergen said Saturday.

The jet left the ground but crashed near the end of the runway on a road adjacent to the airport, she said.

There were no other aircraft on the runway and no vehicles on the road, Bergen said.

#5559 Re: The Garden » Obama takes lead in polls » 921 weeks ago

Haha, yeah. It's kinda funny to think that John McCain mighta woke up Monday morning and said to himself "Phew, it's gonna be a good week. I can feel it!"

#5560 Re: The Garden » GNR Evolution NFL Yahoo Pick Em League » 921 weeks ago

Wow, I had a bad week 2. Too many underdogs I guess. Oh well, I'm locked in for week 3.

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