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#5651 The Garden » Karl Rove & Sarah Palin & McCain sink to new low » 922 weeks ago
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Cheesy ad claims a bill warning kids about seual predators was teaching kids "Sex Ed"
Weak.
McCain Sex-Ed Ad Launched; Obama Camp: "Perverse"
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September 9, 2008 06:04 PM
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John McCain is out with a response ad to Barack Obama's attacks today on his education policy, accusing the Democratic nominee of not accomplishing a single education-related goal other than to promote "comprehensive sex education" to kindergartners. Seriously, it's come to this.
The spot, titled "Education," comes after the two candidates went back and forth over education issues most of Tuesday. It is an attack the Obama campaign should be ready for. The same lines were used against the Senator during his run for office in 2004 by challenger Alan Keyes, and were brought up during the primary by Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
In essence, Obama supported "age appropriate" sex-education for children as a means of teaching them what was proper or inproper touching, as well as to protect them against pedophiles, his campaign has said. Used in the context of the McCain campaign ad, however, Obama's stance becomes another one of those cultural issues that seems designed to alienate the Illinois Democrat from more socially moderate voters.
And very quickly, the Obama campaign came out with a hard hitting response, pointing to a series of education accomplishments made by Obama, and calling McCain "perverse" for the latest attack.
"It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls - a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn't define what honor was. Now we know why," said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.
Read more: McCain's Ad Cites Articles That Rip Him Worse Than Obama
Here is the script of that ad that the McCain folks say will be airing in "key" states.
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The best part is halfway down the link is to another story where the newspapers used as sources ACTUALLY RIPPED McCAIN WORSE THAN OBAMA!!!
HAha, you can't write any worse as to how those dunces are.
McCain's Ad Cites Articles That Rip Him Worse Than Obama
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September 9, 2008 08:06 PM
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John McCain's attack ad released Tuesday evening is perhaps the most outlandish yet this election cycle -- not simply because the spot claims that Obama lacks any substantive record on education policy (he actually can claim several achievements on that front), and not because McCain charges that Obama's lone feat is "comprehensive sex education" for kindergartners (a hysterical description of efforts aimed at protecting children from predators).
What sets this ad apart is that every article save one that the McCain camp cites as being critical of Obama's education policies either has far more derogatory things to say about McCain himself or goes on to praise the Illinois Democrat.
In the spot, the McCain campaign references a June 2008 Washington Post editorial that called Obama "elusive" on school accountability. That same editorial, however, stated that McCain "has not been forthcoming with any detailed plan." Moreover, when the Post editorial board revisited the subject of education last month, it found that "Obama has given the issue more attention" than McCain, whose plan was "both late in coming and still a work in progress."
Moreover, the specific "elusive" claim is in reference to a David Brooks op-ed in the New York Times that was noted by the Post. But in that piece, Brooks was far more critical of McCain. "Obama endorses many good ideas and is more specific than the McCain campaign, which hasn't even reported for duty on education," the Times columnist wrote.
In its press release accompanying the ad, the McCain campaign also cites an Education Week article which states that, as a legislator, Obama "hasn't made a significant mark on education." The same story, however, goes on to add: "Sen. Obama may have a unique perspective among the candidates seeking the presidency in 2008. As a private citizen, he led Chicago's portion of the Annenberg Challenge school reform initiative financed by the late philanthropist Walter H. Annenberg--an experience that shaped Mr. Obama's perspective on the critical importance of principals and teachers."
Additionally, during the heat of the Republican primary, Education Week ran a withering story on the lack of McCain accomplishments in the field, titled "John McCain on Education: Where Art Thou?"
"With Republican presidential contender John McCain poised to make a strong showing--or even win--tomorrow's primary in New Hampshire, it seems appropriate to re-examine his views on education," read the story. "That's not such an easy task. Education doesn't make the Arizona senator's list of issues on his campaign website. ... McCain is a campaign-finance, foreign-relations, anti-abortion, tax-cut candidate. Education is not his thing."
Indeed, only one article referenced by the McCain campaign doesn't, in turn, rip the Republican nominee even harder than Obama. That article (which is misleadingly attributed in the ad to the Chicago Tribune) is a July 2008 op-ed by libertarian columnist Steve Chapman, who has also argued for abolishing the Department of Education.
#5652 The Garden » McCain nervous about outcome of Troopergate » 922 weeks ago
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Scared... he's sent people up to Alaska to kill the investigation. Hhaa, what happened to "I have nothing to hide" I guess she didn't know emails are saved. (Yes, they have emails)
http://www.newsweek.com/id/157439
Team McCain and the Trooper
Nominee's ally moves to curb probe of Palin
By Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Sep 5, 2008 | Updated: 9:36 p.m. ET Sep 5, 2008
Key Alaska allies of John McCain are trying to derail a politically charged investigation into Gov. Sarah Palin's firing of her public safety commissioner in order to prevent a so-called "October surprise" that would produce embarrassing information about the vice presidential candidate on the eve of the election.
In a move endorsed by the McCain campaign Friday, John Coghill, the GOP chairman of the state House Rules Committee, wrote a letter seeking a meeting of Alaska's bipartisan Legislative Council in order to remove the Democratic state senator in charge of the so-called "troopergate" investigation.
Coghill charged that the senator, Hollis French, had "politicized" the probe by making a number of public comments in recent days, including telling ABC News that Palin had a "credibility problem" and that the investigation into the firing of public safety commissioner Walter Monegan was "likely to be damaging to the administration" and could be an "October surprise." Wrote Coghill: "The investigation appears to be lacking in fairness, neutrality and due process."
The investigation, authorized by the Legislative Council last July, revolves around charges that Palin abused her power by embroiling the governor's office in a bitter family feud involving her ex-brother in law, a state trooper named Mike Wooten. Specifically, the council is investigating whether Palin fired Monegan when he refused to dismiss Wooten (who at the time was involved in an ugly custody battle with Palin's sister) after getting repeated complaints about him from the governor and her husband, Todd Palin. (Among the allegations that were raised against Wooten by Palin's sister: he had Tasered his ten-year-old stepson and shot a moose without a permit.) Palin has denied wrongdoing; Monegan has said he believes his firing was connected to his refusal to fire Wooten.
French, the Democrat overseeing the probe, has hired a special counsel to determine, in effect, whether Palin "used her public office to settle a private score," he recently said. He has also suggested that the probe may turn up evidence that state laws were violated by Palin's aides because they pulled confidential personnel files on the trooper.
But Coghill, who told NEWSWEEK that he has the backing of Republican Speaker of the House John Harris in his effort to remove French, suggested Friday that the investigation into Palin's firing of Monegan should be shut down entirely. "If this has been botched up the way it has, there's a question as to whether it should continue," Coghill told NEWSWEEK.
#5653 Re: The Garden » Knockout blow to the Obama campaign? » 922 weeks ago
Karl Rove politics. You do know he's an advisor to the McCain campaign.
Also, McCain used this phrase when referring to Hilary's Healthcare plan.
How come whenever I state facts & statistics all you come up wtih is "It's just liberal smear" but whenever you buy into Karl Rove "he said she said" politics it's fact & relevant. I guess America does want 8 more years of Karl Rove/Bush/Cheney in office.
#5654 Re: The Garden » Palin: Rape Victims should pay $1,,5000 for test kits » 922 weeks ago
PaSnow wrote:Wasilla police department
That isn't proof that she made rape victims pay for rape kits.
What don't you understand, she was THE MAYOR... If she couldn't overturn this policy on her own she should quit yapping about her "Executive Experience". And what does this say about her decision making skills considering she appointed this Commisioner. Who does she want to put in the Cabinet?
#5655 Re: The Garden » Palin: Rape Victims should pay $1,,5000 for test kits » 922 weeks ago
Just above halfway down:
"While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.
Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams."
#5656 Re: The Garden » Palin: Rape Victims should pay $1,,5000 for test kits » 922 weeks ago
I still haven't seen this be directly attributed to Palin. I don't give two shits if her mother wrote it, until I see this policy directly enforced and approved by Palin, its just liberal gutter politics.
Where was the liberal outrage regarding this the past eight years? Where's the liberal outrage in North Carolina where this is going on as well?
It has nothing to do with this issue. Its just an attempt to smear Palin, and its not going to work.
It's from 2000. She was mayor from 96-04.
#5657 Re: The Garden » Palin: Rape Victims should pay $1,,5000 for test kits » 922 weeks ago
Also smear??!? It's an article from her LOCAL NEWSPAPER!!
#5658 Re: The Garden » Palin: Rape Victims should pay $1,,5000 for test kits » 922 weeks ago
It f'ing disgusting. Not only was it their law, but she had a police chief who was blatantly opposed to changing it (And I'm sure she was too)
Be real James. Politics aside, imagine if you had a sister who a guy took full advantage of and you stopped over to be with her. Then the cop showed up and said "Well, we can do a rape test for you, but you'll have to pay a thousand dollars". I'd punch the cop in his face!!
And you want this chick running the country?? She's a nutjob.
#5659 Re: The Garden » Palin: Rape Victims should pay $1,,5000 for test kits » 922 weeks ago
She SELECTED the police chief. All this "Executive Experience" she's been yapping about. WTF.. She was 'mayor', she selected him. Chances are in a town of 5,000 people she was probably in the same room as him when he said it too. Also, fire the f'ing Police Commissioner for it... Oh that's right, the guy wasn't divorcing her sister so he's ok.
Word is Wasilla was THE ONLY town in Alaska which did this, hence the then Governor made this law, because he thought it was a disgrace.
#5660 The Garden » Palin: Rape Victims should pay $1,,5000 for test kits » 922 weeks ago
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Knowles signs sexual assault bill
Published on Monday, May 22, 2000 9:00 PM AKDT
JO C. GOODE / The Frontiersman / May 23, 2000
ANCHORAGE - Gov. Tony Knowles recently signed legislation protecting victims of sexual assault from being billed for tests to collect evidence of the crime, but one local police chief said the new law will further burden taxpayers.
The governor signed House Bill 270, sponsored by Rep. Eric Croft, D-Anchorage, outside the Sexual Assault Response Team (SART) exam room at Alaska Regional Hospital. In attendance at the signing were members of victims advocate groups, law enforcement agencies and legislators.
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The new law makes it illegal for any law enforcement agency to bill victims or victims insurance companies for the costs of examinations that take place to collect evidence of a sexual assault or determine if a sexual assault did occur.
We would never bill the victim of a burglary for fingerprinting and photographing the crime scene, or for the cost of gathering other evidence, Knowles said. Nor should we bill rape victims just because the crime scene happens to be their bodies.
While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.
Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams.
In the past weve charged the cost of exams to the victims insurance company when possible. I just dont want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer, Fannon said.
According to Fannon, the new law will cost the Wasilla Police Department approximately $5,000 to $14,000 a year to collect evidence for sexual assault cases.
Ultimately it is the criminal who should bear the burden of the added costs, Fannon said.
The forensic exam is just one part of the equation. Id like to see the courts make these people pay restitution for these things, Fannon said.
Fannon said he intends to include the cost of exams required to collect evidence in a restitution request as a part of a criminals sentencing.
Palmer police chief Laren Zager said that to his knowledge, no sexual assault victim has ever been billed by the city of Palmer for an exam to collect evidence of a crime. Zager, who has been police chief since January, said he would never expect a victim to be burdened with the cost of a police investigation.
Im prepared to pay every dime in an investigation. As long as I am chief, I would never bill a victim, Zager said.
The new bill would also make law enforcement agencies that are investigating a sexual assault responsible for the costs of testing victims for sexually transmitted diseases and emergency contraception.
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http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/20 … 3/news.txt
Despicable. You can't defend that.
