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#561 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago
Wow, who ever would have guessed! Never saw this one coming. Huge give away to the uber wealthy. Next move is cut the social safety nets of the elderly and poor to pay for them. They are hell bent on turning this place into a third world country.
Ryan says Republicans to target welfare, Medicare, Medicaid spending in 2018
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) said Wednesday that congressional Republicans will aim next year to reduce spending on both federal health care and anti-poverty programs, citing the need to reduce America's deficit.
Ryan said that he believes he has begun convincing President Trump in their private conversations about the need to rein in Medicare, the federal health program that primarily insures the elderly. As a candidate, Trump vowed not to cut spending on Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid. (Ryan also suggested congressional Republicans were unlikely to try changing Social Security, because the rules of the Senate forbid changes to the program through reconciliation — the procedure the Senate can use to pass legislation with only 50 votes.)
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#562 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago
Wow, that doesn't look good. There was a TV reporter a few years ago who had a mini stroke on the air, wasn't there? Looks kinda similar.
Definitely doesn't look good and looks a like some form of health crisis. Could be fatigue or stress related but seems more than that.
No stamina!
#563 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago
Hillary is sexually assaulting people now?? ?
Right?
Clown shoes.
#564 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago
I think this could all be a ploy...to gain political points and maybe just show how differently democrats handle sexual misconduct as compared to republicans and Roy Moore.
Correct. The GOP, for the most part, has rallied around an accused pedophile. Multiple women have come forward. He was banned from the local mall. People knew this for years. Yet most Republicans seem OK with this and want him in office. It's not a stretch though. If they can get behind somebody like Trump, then they can get behind a man like Moore.
#565 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago
What'd he do? ]
Paul Manafort Wrote Op-Ed With Russian While On Bail
President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort was ghostwriting an op-ed with a Russian with ties to the Russian intelligence service while out on bail last month, Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team said, CNN reported.
Manafort was working on the op-ed, written in English, as recently as Nov. 30. It related to his political work in Ukraine and his foreign lobbying and money laundering criminal charges.
In a court filing, Mueller's team claims "Manafort worked on the draft with a long-time Russian colleague of Manafort's, who is currently based in Russia and assessed to have ties to a Russian intelligence service," ABC News reported.
The filing from Mueller's team Monday asked the court to renegotiate the $10 million unsecured bail and house arrest agreement Mueller's office and Manafort's lawyers made last week. It asserts the op-ed reflects "an intention to violate or circumvent the Court's existing Orders." Therefore, "the government submits that the proposed bail package is insufficient to reasonably to assure his appearance as required," according to ABC.
Judge Amy Berman Jackson placed a gag order on the trial and warned both sides not to "try the case on the courthouse steps."
"This is a criminal trial, not a public relations campaign," Jackson said.
Prosecutors said if the op-ed had been published it would have violated the judge's order because it was written "to influence the public's opinion of defendant Manafort, or else there would be no reason to seek its publication — much less for Manafort and his long-time associate to ghostwrite it in another's name."
The former campaign chairman was indicted in October as part of the ongoing Russia probe on 12 counts related to work done before joining the Trump campaign, including conspiracy against the U.S., conspiracy to launder money and serving as an unregistered agent of a foreign principal. Manafort pleaded not guilty to all the charges.
#566 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago
slcpunk wrote:Randall Flagg wrote:https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/04/supreme … ffect.html
7-2 verdict. Trump’s travel ban continues unaltered. When will we prevent far left judges on the west coast from wasting time?
The only think surprising about this ruling is it wasn’t 9-0.
It continues for now, but it's not the final say in the matter. No decision has been made on the constitutionality of the law. We're still waiting for the court of appeals to make that decision.
You don't think when it makes it's way to SCOTUS (assuming the 9th circuit doesn't leave it in place) after this ruling it will be upheld? .
I didn't say that. I said no final ruling has been made.
#567 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/04/supreme … ffect.html
7-2 verdict. Trump’s travel ban continues unaltered. When will we prevent far left judges on the west coast from wasting time?
The only think surprising about this ruling is it wasn’t 9-0.
It continues for now, but it's not the final say in the matter. No decision has been made on the constitutionality of the law. We're still waiting for the court of appeals to make that decision.
#568 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago
Mueller has now subpoenaed Deutsche Bank for Trump's financials.
Trump's lawyers deny this. But his lawyers also claimed Trump didn't write that Tweet that incriminated him for obstruction either.
Also, Manafort must be the biggest idiot in the world. Or just so arrogant, he thinks he can do anything. I wouldn't be surprised if his bail is revoked.
#569 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago
slcpunk wrote:Has anybody else noticed that both the WH and his lawyers are now saying that Trump can't obstruct justice, because he's POTUS? And that collusion is not a crime? Fox News is (state TV) is running with the same thing. They're expecting this in the pipeline. Soon everybody else will be saying it too.
Have you found a Samantha Bee clip yet explaining how Trump obstructed Justice? How firing Comey impacted any investigation? Or did you just stop at the headline that says Trump obstructed Justice?
Always trying to pivot huh?
Well since an investigation is ongoing, I'll wait for Mueller's results. But he's on record asking Senators and other intelligence people to make this go away. Also asking loyalty from Comey, and then firing him when it was clear he wasn't some bootlick. Among other things...
But as I said, there is a reason Fox News is saying that obstruction isn't a crime.
#570 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago
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The National review article I linked earlier does a good job of explaining why your thoughts are folly.
Don’t forget, Comey told Congress Trump was never under investigation. And nothing from Mueller has had anything to do with the election.
It’s over. Now the only question is how much did Clinton’s Steele Dossier factor into any of this. I’d be much more worried of the fall out from the FBI being partisan than I would anyone on Trump’s team being indicted for anything related to the election.
This is completely detached from reality of course.
Seriously.
But I see what you're doing here. You also see what's in the pipeline. So you're trying to create a schism here. Unwilling to admit you're wrong, you want to slice this up in to particulars so you can't ever be wrong.
So when the Trump admin does go down the toilet, you'll say "Ah ha, but it wasn't for this! As I've said all along" (and ask for an apology.)
You're a pretty dishonest guy.
