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#5751 Re: The Garden » McCain guarantees victory » 915 weeks ago
What people say and what people do are often 2 different things. I wouldn't be at all surprised if McCain wins.
Obama's idea of spreading the wealth is going to be the worst plan ever for helping the American economy, so if he does win, we will have a Republican President in 2012. There's really no motivation to do well if the government is going to take your money and give it to some lazy ass that refuses to get a job. They think rich people are evading taxes now, just wait...
The thread title is a little misleading. He didn't guarantee victory, he guaranteed it would be close, and he believes he will win.
#5752 Re: Guns N' Roses » Chinese Democracy First Tour Dates (FAKE) » 915 weeks ago
They could always train another guitarist. Finck's ok I guess, but it's not like replacing BH. You could probably pick someone up off the street and if they made a mistake, just say "that's his style" and keep going.
Let's be honest...the only person required to show up is Axl Rose. He could (and maybe should) do a series of club dates with backing tracks and some people would show up. Obviously it's likely that Dizzy, Frank and Pitman would be there because nobody else really wants them and BBF would show because he seems to enjoy it. Neither Tommy, Finck or Fortus (from a touring point of view) do anything special enough that they couldn't be replaced pretty easily. The only key is having someone that can do a decent fake BH, and BBF (while clearly not BH) does a good enough job for most people.
I would write the dates off as fake because they aren't going to play Calgary one day and then WV a couple days later, but a tour of some sort could be done if Axl chose to.
#5753 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 915 weeks ago
James Lofton wrote:I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the song hasn't been out long enough to make it on any of these rock charts. These various request lines/shows don't count. Lets wait to see the real charts.
You're right. But even if it does end up being number 1 buzz is just going to say it doesn't count because people were requesting it And that's not fair! CHEATERS!
It's usually 1 1/2- 2 weeks for some charts.
Ummm...for the first few days or the first week, that's a completely fair statement. Just because it doesn't fit your agenda doesn't make it any less valid. people from the internet are obviously flooding stations with requests. That's going to happen initially, but eventually they will stop doing it. If the song fails in spite of the false publicity of being number one or two early, I'd say that's a pretty telling indication of what the general public thinks of the song, wouldn't you? Or is that being unfair in some way?
#5754 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 915 weeks ago
That has to be one of the worst top 20 lists I've ever seen in my life. Chinese Democracy should be number one by default.
Agreed - even I had to admit that the list is questionable at best. They are streaming the song though, so that is good news. It seems like most places are, so if the song fails, it's not going to be because the radio stations didn't give it a chance.
#5755 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 915 weeks ago
Here is what the Chattanooga rock station has (no AC/DC? That makes me question how accurate this is):
1 The Day That Never Comes
Metallica
2 Bad Girlfriend
Theory Of A Deadman
3 Believe
Staind
4 I Don't Care
Apocalyptica
5 Too Drunk'¦
Buckcherry
6 Psychosocial
Slipknot
7 Devour
Shinedown
8 Inside The Fire
Disturbed
9 Never Enough
Five Finger Death Punch
10 Addicted
Saving Abel
11 Train
3 Doors Down
12 Down & Out
Tantric
13 Livin' On Borrowed Time
Puddle Of Mudd
14 Rise Above This
Seether
15 Hammerhead
Offspring
16 Bartender Song
Rehab
17 Scream Aim Fire
Bullet For My Valentine
18 Paralyzer
Finger Eleven
19 It's Not My Time
3 Doors Down
20 Life Is Beautiful
Sixx AM
They also have this on the front page, so it's not like they are ignoring the fact that Chinese Democracy the song exists:
http://www.rock105.net/cc-common/news/s … le=4469654
Slash Endorses Chinese Democracy
The guitarist quit Guns N' Roses in 1996 after falling out with frontman Axl Rose.
Friday, October 24, 2008
Daily Rock Photos - "Get the latest rock news!"
Former Guns N' Roses rocker Slash has given the band's long-awaited comeback album the thumbs up.
The guitarist quit Guns N' Roses in 1996 after falling out with frontman Axl Rose while the pair worked on the LP - which has taken 14 years to hit stores.
As Rose prepares for its November 24 release, Slash - now a member of supergroup Velvet Revolver - responded positively when played a track from the disc on a radio station this week.
He told listeners, "That sounds cool. It's good to hear (Axl Rose's) voice again, y'know?"
Click Here to Listen to Guns N' Roses' new song!
#5756 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 915 weeks ago
Updates? I keep seeing people saying people are saying great things, but I see nobody providing numbers to back it up. This leads me to believe that the numbers don't back up the claims...
#5757 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N Roses single a radio hit » 916 weeks ago
I also forgot about the international aspect of it. Europe especially, but the rest of the world has been a lot more receptive to Axl's new band and this list is almost exclusively not US based.
It's funny to see him sarcastically say something about the size of the GnR fans on the internet...I bet the number is actually bigger than that, though all of them aren't active daily on websites. I bet that many lurk to some extent and are aware of what's going on because they want to be. 200,000 isn't a ton of people when looking at it internationally.
#5758 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 916 weeks ago
No you're right buzz.
I'm going to frame this post and hang it on my office wall! 
#5759 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 916 weeks ago
Most people don't know BH either - other than the KFC/freakshow thing at least. If you're going to say BH is a known entity, you have to include Tommy in there. But I'd say neither is known.
#5760 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 916 weeks ago
I dont really see the big deal about black ice... ive listened to the album, it blurs from one to the other..its the same old same old ac/dc.. i like em but whats goin on, well i guess the public want something that never changes.
as for offspring, im glad they had their dig with "chinese democracy snooze you lose" bullshit and now wake up to see this list...
AC/DC is #1 or at least near the top of almost all of the lists I've seen. The part I bolded is actually a concern for GnR because like it or not, this is not the same old Guns N' Roses. I predicted this to be an issue a long time ago - most people will want to hear GnR sound like GnR.
Regardless of what we want, the general public is going to have certain expectations when putting on or listening to a Guns song. Some will be "open minded" and give it a shot, but I suspect more won't, especially if NONE of it sounds like what they think GnR sounds like. That isn't being "closed minded", it's having expectations...expectations that go along with keeping a brand name. Think New Coke...it is impossible to recreate something that has a well known legacy that is huge and not expect the general population to expect something similar to the original. Eventually the public perception might change, but it's going to take a long time and I can't think of one instance in music where it has. Ironically enough, AC/DC might be the closest thing to a similar situation, though there are major differences.
I'm not looking to start and old vs new or Axl shouldn't have kept the name discussion, but these points are relevant to the discussion taking place here. Please don't just pick that part of the post to attack if you don't like it.
