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#5801 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 916 weeks ago

Saikin wrote:

That is just your opinion.  You have no facts that we will be the only people buying this record.  You have no facts that no one will like this song in a week. 

I admit, people are jumping the gun a little, but we're all excited.  In another week or so we will be able judge the situation better once the song has more listeners and therefor more response.

You're right, and I never stated it was a fact.  It is all my opinion and never said otherwise.

#5802 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 916 weeks ago

This is exactly why this whole thing is a joke.  What is the point if it us telling them to play it?  Let whatever is going to happen, happen.  Don't influence the vote, if it's good enough to succeed, it will succeed.

#5803 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 916 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

And buzzsaw, of all fuckin' days for you to pull this negative shit. You don't like the song, we get it, we know, we've known, so BUG OFF to the past GN'R section.

Who the fuck died and made you boss?  I'm entitled to an opinion just as much as you are and last I checked, I'm free to post any relevant comment in any section of this site that I please.  If it deserves a negative comment, it gets a negative comment.  Believe me, I'm biting my tongue in a lot of cases.  This whole situation is nowhere near as good as you guys are making it out to be, but I'll let you have your day in the sun.

I don't appreciate you giving negative karma for stating a valid opinion as though I'm just posting to cause trouble.  Guess what?  This song IS NOT getting glowing reports from everybody, so stop fooling yourself into thinking it was some magical song selection.  It isn't that good and was a poor song choice for a first single.  Hell, I should be happy about that according to you, but I'm not.

GnR fans from the boards are being told to go to different sites to support the song "we need positive reviews on this" is what one site said...how fucking credible is that?  No shit people are claiming they like it...almost every one of them had heard the song already and were told to go post there.  What happens today means NOTHING.  New cars get old, some faster than others.  Let's talk after the album comes out and the old material outsells CD.  With CD being a BB exclusive, I'm willing to bet that's exactly what happens.  We're the only people dragging ourselves to BB to buy it...sorry to break that news to you.

#5804 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 916 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

the reason that it may be successful is its simplicity...average music listeners are more apt to get stuck on something like this thats why grunge was so big the riff gets stuck in your head...especially since stations are playing it every hour on the hour...peopel will grow fond of it out of repetativeness alone

as fopr staying on the station long enough well its new gnr alot of peopel will be curious to stay tuned until the music kicks in....i'm sure once the hhype dies down they will do a radio edit with the front clipped

OK - your spelling is brutal.  16

Seriously, I don't hear a riff that could get stuck in anyone's head.  I don't think people are going to flock to it - not new listeners at least.  Maybe fans of the old band, but when I talk to my nieces (17 and 21) about GnR, they call it oldies.  That generation doesn't care about GnR with the exception of a few here and there.  That isn't going to be good enough, not for the expectations they are trying to build.  The world has not been waiting for Axl Rose to release CD no matter what Best Buy or GnR management try to tell us.

There had to be a better option than this...there had to be.

#5805 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 916 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

^haha

kids 14 i wanna response from drlove and buzzsaw about my post up there

You made a post?

#5806 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 916 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:

So can we get back to discussing Chinese Democracy being released as the single?

Unless he can come back with an actual point, sure!

#5807 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 916 weeks ago

dr_love6977 wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

That's your idea of proof?  And you had the nerve to question my research?  Weak.

Well you're stating your opinion as if it's fact. As it turns out, I happen to know a little bit about music, and I know what would make a good first single. All I did was present the reasons why CD was an obvious choice for a first single.

You have the nerve to post that as your comeback? Weak.

Congrats!  Following up weak with weak and hypocritical isn't an easy thing to do...most people would have let it go at weak.

You state your opinion (your "proof") as though it's fact, then get on me for it?  Again, weak.  Also hypocritical.   There's no point in wasting time on you when you put nothing into it yourself.  Come back with something credible and well thought out and I'll consider actually responding, otherwise, consider this discussion over.

#5808 Re: Guns N' Roses » Radio Reacts To Guns N' Roses Single » 916 weeks ago

Not really hot or cold based on these responses, but like I said in the other thread...the real test will be how much it's getting played over the next couple weeks.  Today means nothing.

#5809 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 916 weeks ago

dr_love6977 wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

If you want to prove me wrong, be my guest.

I already did.

dr_love6977 wrote:

Singles (for a hard rock band at least) should generally follow the same format as a live show. Start off with a solid, quick rocker. Although Better is easily my favorite of the songs so far, it would be stupid to release a mid-tempo pseudo-ballad as the first single after 13 years of anticipation.

CD is a very solid song all the way through. It grabs you from the beginning and keeps you all the way to the end. It doesn't slow down, quiet down, or relinquish in any way. I've been saying that would be the first single since I very first heard that song. It has all the right ingredients to make it a single and a show opener.

W. Axl Rose wrote:

Suck on that

That's your idea of proof?  And you had the nerve to question my research?  Weak.

#5810 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses to release Chinese Democracy single » 916 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:
PaSnow wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

Bad choice for a first single.  Some will not make it to the part where the music kicks in....

After the first few plays they'll cut out the intro & talking part so that's not relevent. I agree Better would have been great too, but CD adds in the name recognition. "Chinese Democracy", alot of people have heard the term & waited for it.

Should have released it back with an Olympics tie in though.

I find the song to be catchy and have a great structure. But I always have though. My opinion wasn't going to change unless the song was drastically changed for the worse before this morning.

buzz wasn't going to change his opinion either. He's just stating, again, what we all know; he personally doesn't like new Guns N' Roses songs all that much.

Not exactly - first of all, the only songs I've heard prior to this one have been in demo form, so I think responding to the mastered version is quite reasonable.  As for hating new GnR songs, that isn't true either.  I actually like one of them quite a bit and think another is decent (in demo form).

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