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#581 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 816 weeks ago

From Tommy's twitter...


@tommy_stinson: Don't forget to breathe. Don't forget to breathe.  Don't forget to breathe .Have to remind myself once in a while.

@tommy_stinson: In case anyone was wondering... Axl has not fired me as of yet, and i have not quit GNR. Let's not start running amok here.

Edit: Made a double post at first.

#582 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 816 weeks ago

mister saint laurent wrote:

Then again I've had thousands of people calling me & turk cunts the last week. wink

See? Prolly not illegal, but prolly doesen't feel right! Right? 22

As for your history of providing info/songs. Sure we've been gratefull to some extend...

I personally remember sitting on a internetcafè in Greece while on holiday. Downloading Shackler's (took about 30 min!) and listening to it via shitty speakers! Was I "gratefull"? Sure I was! For about 10 minutes, then I went for a beer!

And not long after, I was truly gratefull (in the right sense of the word) for my Chinese Democracy vinyl!

#583 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 816 weeks ago

mister saint laurent wrote:

That's true, you don't know for sure whether I'm telling the truth. I just think my history should be enough for people to not automatically assume I'm definitely lying. If you disagree, that's fine.

"Disagree" is the wrong word for this.

We don't know. Big difference!

What I personally disagree with is that it's wrong for you to use this information to make some quick $$$.

I don't know if it's legal or not. But that doesen't really matter. It's still not right to do it!
A lot of things aren't illegal to do, but it doesen't make it right! See the difference?

It's not illegal for me to pass you on the street and call you a cunt, but it doesen't make it right! Then again, some people might disagree...

#584 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 816 weeks ago

mister saint laurent wrote:

I am surprised that so many people have not even considered the possibility that I'm telling the truth. I'm surprised because in the lead up to the release of CD1, I was consistantly and almost daily breaking accurate stories about the album.

And back then I was very honest about how I was getting the info. Azoff was controlling what Rolling Stone was reporting about GNR, so someone at Rolling Stone was feeding me info that their boss was not letting them report.

Just like now, when I've been honest about getting info from confidential emails that were anonymously sent to me. I could have acted like I was some sort of insider. But I never have. I've always been a lying sack of shit behind the scenes to get my hands on stuff and then completely honest with the fanbase afterwards.

So yes, it is surprising that so few have even taken the position that it's POSSIBLE that I'm telling the truth.

OBVIOUSLY I intended for evidence to surface at some point. But in the meantime, while the legalities of everything were being sorted out, I wanted to KEEP MY WORD and on Feb 2, fill you guys in on what has been going on lately in the GNR world.

Yes, anybody could just make up a bunch of shit in a blog post.

BUT. I. DIDN'T.

And if you don't believe me, that's fine. But I do feel my past actions should be worth at least reserving judgement instead of automatically assuming that I'm definitely lying. That seems kind of rude when I've been so honest and forthcoming in the past.

From your point of view, if you actually have this info, I can understand you being "hurt" by some of the comments on the boards.

But the fact is very simple. We, the fans, don't know that! We just don't know if you have ANYTHING!

And if it turns out you actually do have someting, it seems that it will be something that would hurt the band! And the only ones benefitting from that would be you and certain "fans" that would want harm upon the current incarnation of the band!

There seems to be no positive outcome for the diehard fans to this, whether you got anything or not!

You must see that! C'mon....

#585 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 816 weeks ago

mister saint laurent wrote:

misterID -

I've worked as a newspaper reporter for many years and it is not uncommon to anonymously receive information that may have been obtained under less than ethical conditions. However, the truth is the truth regardless of how the truth ended up finding the light of day. I do not and never have felt that it is wrong to report private information that is legitimately newsworthy. If you disagree, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

Most of my previous work writing for newspapers, magazines and websites has been covering various combat sports events. I do not have a platform of my own to effectively publicize the very compelling and historically significant pieces of rock n' roll history I have access to. The logical thing to do would be to find another media outlet that would like to work with me.

If this information I have could potentially generate large profits for the organization I choose to work with, I do feel I should be compensated for providing access to the information, assuming after proper research it is determined that it would be legal for me to do so.

If you believe it is wrong for people to profit from private information, you are entitled to your opinion and I certainly believe that opinion is valid. However, I would hope in fairness you would have the same problem with any publication or broadcast that generates a profit from private information, which would cover a large percentage of all worldwide media.

You are right. I am a smart guy. I also have plenty of faults like everyone else. I have serious mental illnesses I battle every day. I am a self-important asshole. I accept that.

I am not a victim in any of this, but I should not be blamed for not wanting to share anymore info with people who are very unappreciative. I should not be blamed if I choose to put my own interest before others, something I have not done in the past. I could have made close to six figures selling unreleased tracks very easily. Instead, I shared everything with everyone. I feel it would be wrong to sell songs. It would also be illegal.

I do not think it would be wrong for me to partner with a media outlet and be fairly compensated. It's also not illegal. If you feel it's wrong, I respect your opinion.

You're messing with something that means a great deal to A LOT of people. And when expecting the fans to just "take you're word for it", you can't possibly be surprised by the negative feedback!

Step back and look at this situation from the outside. This stuff would not fly with the fanbase of ANY band out there!
Imagine a guy showing up at a Metallica-forum and says he has obtained personal e-mails between bandmembers and ex-bandmembers etc etc that would not look good for the band if released! Possibly wrecking future relations with partners, managers and so on... And possibly ruining the chance of future releases from the band.

Doesen't matter one bit what you've done in the past! Period!

And now it seems like you're gonna sell this info to magazines to profit for yourself or maybe just backing out of everything!

Even you gotta admit, that objectively, this whole mess stinks of negative shit to high heaven. But you're surprised!?? Really???

#586 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 816 weeks ago

Intercourse wrote:

But hey, go for it! Have a good one! I'm sure you will!

Got my trunks on and I'm waiting at the pool side to take a long swim in whatever slurry MSL has to offer.

It sure beats looking forward to a re-release of Better with a different fucking solo on it. Jesus.

Who does? I'd be surprised if ANY hardcore fan would give a rat's ass about a new version of Better!

I'd bet MY rat's ass even Axl knows THAT!  22

#587 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 816 weeks ago

madagas wrote:

The Tommy stuff has some teeth.......and it isn't the MSL article even though that adds more fuel to the fire

Yeah, MSL prolly saw that connection and off he went!

C'mon, it takes a minimal amount of fantasy to connect those dots!


jamester062001 wrote:

I dont think a direct shot @ axl with 3 band members would have been promoted by del...or allowed to see the light of day.   jmho

Agreed!

Intercourse wrote:

Natlav old son, you don't have to be Axl's fairy godmother every day.

Just allow yourself to swim in the offal that is GNR's business affairs and embrace gutter press for a laugh and stand down from the Axl defence-fest just this once.

Axl isn't watching, that I am sure of.

You might even enjoy yourself!

If MSL is gonna trinkle out small works of "journalism" like this over the coming days/weeks/months, certain fans will have plenty of made up (or not) dirt to rawish through.

Right now, shit is too vague imo.

But hey, go for it! Have a good one! I'm sure you will! 22

#588 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 816 weeks ago

Really madagas?!

You're gonna start speculating based on this MSL crap without any solid proof/source other than "he says he has the documents"?

We should rise above that shit until proven otherwise...

#589 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:

^^

If he does that, he's dead to the community. There's only one right answer he can have, and that's either juicy dirt or leaks. He's propped himself up WAY too high.

This is definitely an "all in" poker hand.

So you think it's completely impossible that he actually has jack shit of either?

I mean all the activity on the boards lately really shows that we are all fascinated by the fact that we will get some "news" in one form or another in the next few days. And MSL rounded his video off with a very direct "hand-out" to hoarders. So I'll bet he thought some hoarders would take the bait. And who could blame them if they do?

I wouldn't be surprised if MSL has nothing at all and actually thought that the fans would understand his attempt at a hoax... In a romantic "all-for-one-and-one-for-all"-kinda way...
roll

Axlin08 wrote:

He either walks away a bigger legend than before, or falls from grace.

In forum terms, or course. Only we give a shit

Oh, I hear ya!  smile

#590 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:
kozygodd wrote:

^^^so does everyone else, even if they deny it.  Why else would there be 180+ pages/165,000 views on the subject (@mygnr) in about 4 days?

tbh id be surprised if 1,000 different people total have looked at that thread

I'm not sure I'm technically correct here, but if only 60-100 rabid forum junkies 'refreshed' over and over again most of those 180+ pages, you'll get thousands n' thousands of registered views, right?

This site have 2-3000 registered users and mygnr prolly has way more. So to say that "everyone cares" about this, is a bit of a miss.

At this stage of the soapopera, very few people care about it.
But if the next few days actually proves that "Hacksaw Jim Duggan" do have som juicy dirt that could potentially hurt Axl/GNR, just imagine all the different disgruntled people in the musicpress/promoters etc etc that would be all over this stuff...
What postive outcome could there possibly be to that? We all now that Axl has acted like a douch to a lot of people (incl. fans!) on numerous occasions.

Or maybe Feb.2 comes around and nothing happens. Then MSL comes crawling back to the forums saying: "Sorry guys! I tried to hoax my way to some hoarded unheard songs. Sorry for stringing you guys along but this is an option I had to try! I did it all for us, the fans!!!"

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