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#591 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

Bono wrote:

I just came online for the first time in a  few weeks and I saw this thread. Read the first few pages then realized I don't give a shit about any of this so why am I reading it all 16 So I stopped. That's just weird. There was a time when I'd be so curious and interested and now I don't give a  flying fuck. And to be honest I'm happy about that. Are they puting out a new album?  Is there gonna be a reunion? Really those are the only two things I care about.  The step by step(ooooh baby) days of our lives approach to it all is just so uninteresting now.

C'mon! That's what you been saying for ages!

Oh, I think you're very on top of what goes on in the GNR-world. You and everybody here knows that, so stop the act!

If a casual rock fan asked you what's gone on with GNR in the last two years, you could prolly give him an hour long monologue about it!

#592 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

-D- wrote:

Its untelling where I'd rank CD if i had heard it beginning to end brand new as opposed to wearing it out track by track over a decade.

I'm soooo on that same page!! 22

#593 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

-D- wrote:

oh yeah, to justify the time i've wasted on these forums over the years, u are damn right i wanna know all of it. give me all the dirt.

That's the root of a lot of fans problems right there!

They feel they are owed something! It's like certain people don't have free will. Like you somehow, magically, got hypnotized into spending years and years drooling over your keyboards...

FUCK!!! Somebody's gotta pay! Right?

-D- wrote:

he made Robin's TIL solo EPIC which is a fucking miracle up there with Moses parting the Red sea.

Wow!

DJ's version of TIL solo is not bad. He tried to play it like Robin the first times, but couldn't. So he made a generic, easy-listening version and robbed the solo of the tearfull, desperate crying which lifts the studio version of the song up there with best of the best!

Period!!!  (imo)  smile

#594 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

emcitymisfit wrote:

1 -- had those emails been leaked to a magazine or blog like Antiquiet, that dirt would've ended up in Chinese Whispers, anyway. While this site might have the best collection to date of the story, it is by no means complete or definitive.

Assuming all this is true, how would this information be any more dirty than Piazza sending out IRS, recording music from strip clubs, or any other forms of leakage of fact or music over the years?

2 -- I'm not defending the actions of a hacker or anyone looking to profit off of an invasion of privacy, and I'm not even gonna be one of those "Well, if Axl had just acted like a NORMAL band, none of this would've happened" posters. But if this supposed (assuming this is real) trove of documents reveals how/why/when members left the band, under what circumstances, provides clues as to creative processes, details as to the behind-the-scenes dealings, etc, then this is no morally or ethically different than any anonymous source.

Think of all the information regarding Azoff, Best Buy, Merck, Finck, etc that we have learned over the years. You think Axl just gave that information up? No, it was leaked by someone who shouldn't have done it, most likely.

And without that back story, intrigue, and narrative, very few of us would have stuck around over the years. So get over yourselves. Seriously.

3 -- as much as it sucks, Ashba's mainstream success over the years with Sixx AM and others would dictate the value of his time, so no surprise if he's the highest paid player. At least he's the most visible, active, and good for PR that they have. Bumble is probably getting shafted, though.

I wouldn't blame them for doing exactly what Axl says Bucket did and jump ship once their exposure peaks.

If you wanna read it, read it! No need to justify yourself! 22

I'm sure a lot of fans are gonna read it! I have no doubt about that! Knock yourself out! My problem is with MSL and his "journalist" methods and the need for it all...

#595 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:
emcitymisfit wrote:

To people pretending they're not interested in dirt, you're lying to us and to yourselves. The only reason there was the mythical interest in Chinese was BECAUSE of the dirt surrounding it. Stop acting self-righteous.

I could care less about any "dirt".

The only history about Chinese I was/am interested in can be found in Chinese Whispers.

Right on, Russ! End of fuckin' story!  22

Would I like to see a documentary-like-DVD with footage from the sessions and stuff like that? Fuck yeah!

Would I want to read private emails between Axl and Robin or whatever! Fuck no!

Everyone who has ever been in GNR are very creative and "colorfull" people with interesting personalities. And considering how much bad blood there have been at times I'm very aware that there must have been some real juicy communication between them over the last 20 or so years.

But fuckin hell, just because modern technology CAN give us access to this, doesen't make me interested in digging in that stuff, nor does it make it a "journalist's" right to expose it to the fans!

This is not government or military documents that will expose stuff that we should be aware of. It's just a fuckin' rock n' roll band for God's sake!!!!
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#596 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

And I would imagine Robin's resignation letter would be something like this:

"The bird flies... to sunder, fusing with vines, I."

The idea of Robin and Axl exchanging emails is a frightening thought.

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It's prolly why MSL had only read 5% of the documents!

Imagine an amataur wrestler trying to read those emails!  smile

#597 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

I feel the original leaks were one thing, as fans had waited around through years on end of a silent inactive band and there was a fair argument that the album would never be released. They're still not really morally acceptable, but I can understand some argument for it happening.

However, right now the band is active, they're making plans, they just finished an international tour. So doing stuff to fuck with them is just totally out of line, especially from fans.

It hasn't even been that long since CD one in the scheme of things, it's really only 2 or so years...pretty reasonable for them still to be working on getting a follow up out. Not like Ac/Dc or metallica deliver an album every 2 years...don't see people saying it's ok to blackmail them.

I really don't think this sort of behaviour is acceptable at all.

As for MSL, they say pride comes before a fall, and while writing a book isn't illegal trading in confidential info is, so is blackmail and the threats about people in china won't help him seem like a journalist.

We all know he's a smart guy, but one day he's going to bite off more than he can chew, and fucking with Axl like this may just be that day.

Right on, Monkey! Totally agree!

Imo it's far too early for fans to be THIS impatient!
Even if this happened 5-10 years from now, it would be a total low blow!

I guess guys like MSL get some kind of wierd kick out of this stuff.

Even if it's all just a hoax to get more material from hoarders, it still doesen't sit right with me!

But if it was a hoax, I would guess the GNR camp would be able to spot it easily and shoot it down. And they haven't...

#598 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

jamester062001 wrote:

Axl has never mentioned an Autobiography as far as I know.

Yes, I think he have mentioned it before. Not sure where, prolly the chats.

All I know is when I read about MSL having the autobiography, I thought: "I've heard about that somewhere..."

#599 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

He's offering confidential letters and info to disgruntuled employees and former employees who may want to sue

Yeah, that's way out of line. Leaking a couple songs is one thing, this is a whole other.

Yeah, that's a low blow! Totally uncalled for!

#600 Re: Guns N' Roses » 101 Document Titles From Axls Laptop (No Actual Documents Tho) » 817 weeks ago

downliner wrote:

but I have to question how long the fanbase will hold onto this mentality of "us vs. them"?

We have the early leaks, the album itself, the axl chats, multiple world tours and communication in general has improved. Everytime Axl lines something up will a fan swoop in and shit all over it before he's even given a chance?

Well said! That's pretty much how I feel about this!

downliner wrote:

Saboteur is the word I'd use to describe MSL, and hypocrite is the word to describe myself 16 My $0.02.

Oh yeah... and this! ^^  16

But seriously, if GNR are just 24 hours past their planned launch time, MSL feels it's his duty to "announce it for them"? He didn't say he planned on releasing the songs, he said that was just his backup in case GNR decided to "fuck with him".
So what will he "announce for them"? And what have Axl and/or someone in GNR ever done to MSL in order for him to feel THIS frustrated? It's kind of extreme...
I mean, of all my hardcore music fan friends, no one is more rabid fan of a band than I am and what MSL is planning wouldn't even cross my mind if all that material somehow ended up in my lap.
I mean we're only 2 years past release of the album and the band just finished 1 year of almost nonstop touring entertaining fans all over the world! So really? Allready this frustrated?

Fuckin wierd!

But again, I kinda feel like this:

downliner wrote:

Saboteur is the word I'd use to describe MSL, and hypocrite is the word to describe myself 16 My $0.02.

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