But that's why this country should have a "plan for withdrawal", not just a "withdrawal". Setting up say 1-2 years to make Iraq {a seperate country from us}, take over governing controls of their own country and insurgents. The American public shouldn't be voting based on Iraq's best interest, we should be voting for what's best for the USA. Those are the core principals of this nation, it was originally intended to seperate ourselves from Britain. Didn't Iraq hold elections something like 5 years ago. I swear it was back in 04 or something.

Tell that to George H Bush, who lost to a what the Republicans labeled during primary season a "pot smoking draft dodger". 8 years later, the GOP elects a "pot smoking draft dodger".    Way to stick to their morals.

Pretty cool that he acknowledges BH. He talks like they're in the same boat (in a way, they are, both evicted/left due to Axl's craziness)

Are you sure about that James?? I saw this part on the news:

... and almost fell asleep as he was saying it. Seriously, it was the most unmotivating, useless political bs info & there seemed to be about 25 people cheering in the crowd as he was saying it (I'll look for it on youtube). A bunch of hardcore Republicans susceptable to fear tactics. Maybe he should choose Tom Ridge, so this country can go back to code orange this weekend, then down to code yellow, then code orange agian.

RF do you really think Obama is going to call the shots himself, and possibly not take info from people like Head of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee Joe Biden, or possibly someone he'll place in his cabinet like Jim Webb or General Wesley Clarke?? Men who have loads of international experience! They are called ADVISORS for a reason. I could get into Bush's "Advisors" (ie Dick Cheney ie Haliburton) and the trillions spent & made by 'certain people'. But I won't.

RF I know you're diehard Republican, and I don't have a problem with that. You have you're reasons and upbringing, I have mine. That's what makes this country great. Look at the 'Greatest Presidents' thread, some have been Dem, some GOP. (FDR, Reagan, Nixon, Clinton)  but James, you cannot seriously believe in any way this election is "over"??!  I mean, at the very least it's tied, possibly one of them is leading by a few points. Personally I don't think polls will count until about August, & even then it is only relevant state by state, not national.