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#611 Re: The Sunset Strip » Kevin Spacey » 444 weeks ago
A solo accusation is one thing. But Spacey, like others have multiple accusations from the set of House of Cards alone. After a while, it's not difficult to draw a conclusion. Although some people still defend Cosby I guess...
#612 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 444 weeks ago
Why provide evidence or justify an accusation/claim when it’s now considered a conversation to find people who share your opinion and are equally ignorant.
Notice how they’re framing their argument? If you even want some kind of verification before ruining a person’s life, you’re defending a rapist and are dispicable. No opportunity for discussion? Is this who we want to be? Do we want political accusations to be accepted without question under threat of being labeled a bigot or rape apologist? It just reeks of sleaze and anti-intellectualism. It truly is a mob mentality.
The women came forward to report this. How else would you like to verify?
Leigh Corfman was just 14 when she says Roy Moore—the former Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court who’s now poised to win a U.S. Senate seat—initiated a sexual encounter with her, according to explosive new reporting by The Washington Post.
She recounted that on that second visit:
He took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes. He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear.
“I wanted it over with — I wanted out,” she remembers thinking. “Please just get this over with. Whatever this is, just get it over.” Corfman says she asked Moore to take her home, and he did.
#613 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 444 weeks ago
This defence of Roy Moore by an Alabama state official is almost as sickening as the allegations themselves. https://t.co/pJpY4zqlVC
— Katty Kay (@KattyKay_) November 10, 2017
https://twitter.com/4everNeverTrump/status/928699060810219521
After a long pause, Alabama Bibb County Republican chairman Jerry Pow tells me he'd vote for Roy Moore even if Moore did commit a sex crime against a girl.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 9, 2017
"I would vote for Judge Moore because I wouldn't want to vote for Doug," he says. "I'm not saying I support what he did."
My favorite:
"Other than being with an underage person - he didn't really force himself," Alabama Geneva County GOP chairman Riley Seibenhener tells me. "I know that's bad enough, but I don't know. If he withdraws, it's five weeks to the election...that would concede it to the Democrat."
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 10, 2017
#614 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 444 weeks ago
Exit polling also showed that healthcare and guns were the voters top concerns in VA.
#615 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 444 weeks ago
No. Because this wasn’t a mid term and they didn’t win anything they weren’t supposed to. .
This is false. The Dems took seats in the VA legislature (and other places) that they absolutely weren't "supposed to."
“This is an unbelievable night,” said House Minority Leader David J. Toscano (D-Charlottesville) in an interview an hour after polls closed. “There were districts we didn’t think we had much of a shot in.”
Unofficial returns showed Democrats unseating at least a dozen Republicans and flipping three seats that had been occupied by GOP incumbents who did not seek reelection. Four other races were so close that they qualify for a recount, and the outcome will determine control of the chamber. The results marked the most sweeping shift in control of the legislature since Reconstruction.
#616 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 444 weeks ago
Republicans got DESTROYED in Virginia tonight. Northam won by 8pts. And Democrats won 14(!!) seats in the state house and probably take control of the legislature there. There are still some undeclared winners left out there.
They're getting murdered in the 2018 midterms if the trend keeps up and it more or less ends up being a referendum on Trump.
Big night for sure.
Hardly a shocker, Trump trashed Gillespie right after his loss...
Yesterday, a robo call for Gillespie. Within hours of the polls closing, he throws Ed under the bus. Shortest bromance ever! https://t.co/5ZEZsOPYUb
— David Axelrod (@davidaxelrod) November 8, 2017
And there was also this...........
The man who wrote the anti-trans bathroom bill just lost the election to a trans woman. Let that sink in. https://t.co/KFEZXSYvMy
— Laura Bassett (@LEBassett) November 8, 2017
#617 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 444 weeks ago
See...you seemed to make a lot a great point there until the last paragraph. I think you just exposed yourself as being pretty biased.
How can you say that the Trump investigation that's been going on for 19 months (really only since Mueller took over imho, what's that been 6-7 months) has turned up nothing but a 5 year investigation into Hillary needs to be escalated into a grand jury situation?
You've had five years to do this...and you cant...you still can't. At the very least that mean you can't prove it...even if your theory is entirely accurate. Some of what you wrote in that last paragraph are assertions that have no proof. It sounds like the rantings and ravings of a Sean Hannity.
Hillary has been investigated exhaustively. Nothing came of it. Because nothing was there. Even when lead entirely by Republican committees (could you imagine if we had an entirely Democrat committee investigating Trump? Please.) it produced nothing more than talking points for the right wing.
Trump's investigation has yielded 3 arrests thus far. One of whom is working with Mueller and is believed to have been taping conversations over the last couple of months. Flynn is on the cusp of being arrested, as is his son. Sessions clearly has committed perjury. Page's testimony shows that Trump's entire team knew about his trips to Russia/Kremlin, was in constant contact with Russia, and was willing to "get dirt" on Hillary in exchange for favorable policies towards Russia.
What we have right now are people who don't read. That's not my problem and it shouldn't be yours either. I'm not going to waste my time arguing reality with people (we have various testimony, arrests, and records of the Trump admin speaking.) You either accept what is happening, or you remain in denial.
#618 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 444 weeks ago
slcpunk wrote:Looks like Carter Page should have used an attorney.
This guy contradicted himself numerous times, provided multiple bombshells that implicated Sessions, Manafort, Junior, Trump etc and confirmed many aspects of the Steele dossier along the way. Most of all his testimony showed everybody was lying about their dealings with the Russians.
What was confirmed? Do you have any article to link or will you ignore this and call me a liar when I say you’ve never supported that claim?
What did he do exactly that was a bombshell? I know you don’t like being “pinned” down with a stance.
Well, let's see jackass.... If I put up the numerous links to this story (which can be found by you in 2 seconds via Google) then you'd simply deny the testimony that took place, twist things around and pivot. If I choose not to provide any links for you (which I'm under zero obligation to do, while discussing this) then you'd deny the testimony that took place. Either way it's a waste of time.
Page's testimony did wonders for Mueller and sunk Trump and his administration. I said before that Page must be a moron to testify without an attorney, after reading highlights from his testimony, I must wonder if he's all there mentally. What a foolish man.
#619 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 444 weeks ago
Looks like Carter Page should have used an attorney.
This guy contradicted himself numerous times, provided multiple bombshells that implicated Sessions, Manafort, Junior, Trump etc and confirmed many aspects of the Steele dossier along the way. Most of all his testimony showed everybody was lying about their dealings with the Russians.
#620 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 444 weeks ago
Pure ignorance. I've never said a word about how much I make, only that I live comfortably. Stop reading things that weren't said and focus (for once) on what was.
That's why I said "group of insecure men." I was addressing them both, yourself included.
