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#6321 Re: The Sunset Strip » The Allman Brothers Band » 946 weeks ago
from 69-71 quite possibly the best American band ever. RIP Duane Allman.
Great Band, but I'd have to go with CCR on that timeframe.
#6322 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Scott says VR is finished after this tour on stage in Glasgow?! :( » 946 weeks ago
I wonder what was going on? Seems Scotts ego has been too badly damaged and he struggles with the fact that Slash is easily the biggest star in VR
I wonder if Libertad's irrellevancy on the music world and essentially being a flop contributed to Scott wanting to leave to walk right in to a newly hyped band's reunion & probable album release.
Either way, it may be the best thing for all involved. As long as VR get a better fit for singer. Hopefully one who knows a bit about guitar & writing tracks. Dave Kushner may be a nice guy & everything, but I don't think he adds anything to this band. Gilby Clarke would probably be a better fit. I'm not trying to say he'd be a savior or anything, just that Libertad's guitar tracks were kinda weak & shallow.
#6323 Re: The Garden » Obama gains more delegates » 947 weeks ago
Is that an actual question or rhetorical?? If it's actual, I'm not for it. Let's face it, the gov't is going to get the same total amount of $$. And people who make $10 mil aren't spending 3 or 5 mil a year that can be taxed, so instead of them being taxed 4 or 5 mil annually, they'd be taxed much less. Whereas me, who doesn't make much, will still buy what I already am buying (necessities, groceries, gas, clothes, a vacation now & then) will be the ones making up for it. Also, I think it could hurt the economy because people might buy less as the tax would be upwards of about 20%. A $30,000 would then cost $36,000 & so on.
Maybe studies show I'm wrong, but that's my opinion.
#6324 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Scott says VR is finished after this tour on stage in Glasgow?! :( » 947 weeks ago
Obviously there is more trouble than I thought
I don't think so. As madagas said, he's a poser. He just wants to go out with a bang so he can talk during his STP reunion how it's so much better now & shit went down with VR and they werent' getting along etc etc.. and Slash & Duff will be like "??? We did?! Where were we when all this stuff was going on". Scott lives in a fantasy world sometimes, makes shit up that isn't there. He just wants to cause controversy & try to have a big breakup.
#6325 Re: The Garden » Misunderstood Lyrics » 947 weeks ago
^^ Is that true (rape, murder)?? I never knew that. If it's the part I was thinking about I thougt it was "heyyyy Gimmie, it's just a shout away".
Also, 1 from a few years ago. I don't remember the band, they are a pop/rock band, had a song where it sounded like he sang "Fuck me like that". It was pretty popular & I was always surprised radio stationns were playing it. Later I found out it was "If I could be like that". Although, I think they knew it came close to saying Fuck, henece part of the catchiness of the song.
#6326 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » VELVET REVOLVER To Support LED ZEPPELIN? » 947 weeks ago
I agree though about Weiland. At this point he's becoming self-serving. Tired of VR, decides to rejoin STP to rekindle an old flame. BUT wants to fulfill a childhood dream of opening for Led Zep so he'll re-continue with VR throughout the Fall & Spring 09, then leave to complete future work with STP?! C'mon, shit or get off the pot man.
I say move on. I'd actually like the Kravitz move. Also Mike Ness from Social D would be great too.
#6327 Re: The Garden » Music's Best Year(s)?? » 947 weeks ago
Didn't Soul Asylum's Grave Dancers Union come out in 93?! Same thing with Counting Crows first/best album, August & Everything After. 93 also had Chronic, featuring the introduction of Snoop Dogg, and Aerosmith's Crazy/Amazing/Crying album where every song sounded the same. 91 or 92 had the release of the singles soundtrack, quite possibly the best soundtrack ever. House of Pain came out in 92 I think. And The Crow Soundtrack & I think Demolition Man soundtrack came out in 93. Demo man mixed hip-hop with heavy metal, pretty cool stuff.
I liked Boyz II Men Neemo, while they weren't exactly my style a good R&B group so that was cool to live thru. Nothing gets your girl in the mood like 'I'll make Love to You'. I still remember 'End of the Road' was a great song to get high to, amazing to hear all these voices from all these different angles. I noticed it back in 95 while driving home one night & from then on it was my favorite song to get high to. My own little secret, you know. Oh well, myb I'll pick up a bottle of wine & see if it still has the same effect.
#6328 Re: The Garden » 2008 Presidential Poll Thread » 947 weeks ago
Look at the average of all the polls combined. It's Obama 45.6, McCain 46. Take off Rasmussen (which has McCain winning by 6%) and the lead goes to Obama.
It's useless to follow polls like this, the election is 8 months away!! Wait until the media gets on the 5 year anniversary of the war and troop deaths hit 4,000 and McCain will drop fast.
#6329 Re: The Garden » Music's Best Year(s)?? » 947 weeks ago
Yeah I was referring to Gish, just the underground movement that was developing. With them, Jane's, the Pixies leading to the explosion of alternative music in 92-93. But you're right, they all didn't release an album in 91, I guess I started hearing about a few of them in late 91 possibly 92 though. It's a ways back. I didn't hear about the Pixies until 91 or 92, even though they were around in the late 80's.
#6330 The Garden » Wars price to be a burden for decades » 947 weeks ago
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This is a pretty good article I read in my Sunday paper:
War's price to be a burden for decades
Joseph E. Stiglitz
is a Nobel laureate in economics. He was chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Bill Clinton and chief economist and senior vice president at the World Bank.
March 19 marks the fifth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. It's time to take stock of what has happened. In our book, The Three Trillion Dollar War, Harvard's Linda Bilmes and I estimate the economic cost of the war to the United States at $3 trillion, and the costs to the rest of the world to be an additional $3 trillion - far higher than the estimates the Bush administration gave before the war.
That administration said the war would cost $50 billion. The United States now spends that amount in Iraq every three months. To put that number in context: For one-sixth of the cost of the war, this country could put its Social Security system on sound footing for more than a half-century, without cutting benefits or raising contributions.
Moreover, despite running a budget deficit, the Bush administration cut taxes for the rich as it went to war. As a result, it has had to use deficit spending - much of it financed from abroad - to pay for the war. This is the first war in U.S. history that has not demanded some sacrifice from citizens through higher taxes; instead, the entire cost is being passed on to future generations. Unless things change, the national debt - which stood at $5.7 trillion when President Bush took office - will be $2 trillion higher because of the war (in addition to the $800 billion increase under Bush before the war).
Cash accounting meant that the Bush administration focused on today's costs, not future costs, including disability and health-care expenses for returning veterans, and it has sought to obscure the war's costs as it has gone on. Veterans groups have had to use the Freedom of Information Act to find out the total number of injured - 15 times the number of fatalities. Already, 52,000 returning veterans have been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. The United States will need to provide disability compensation to an estimated 40 percent of the 1.65 million troops who already have been deployed. And, of course, the bleeding will continue as long as the war continues, with health care and disability costing more than $600 billion (in present-value terms).
Ideology and profiteering also have played roles in driving up the war's costs. The government has relied on private contractors, which have not come cheap. A Blackwater security guard can cost more than $1,000 a day, not including disability and life insurance, which are paid by the government. When unemployment rates in Iraq soared to 60 percent, hiring Iraqis would have made sense; but the contractors preferred to import cheap labor from Nepal, the Philippines and other countries.
The war has had only two winners: oil companies and defense contractors. The stock price of Halliburton Co., Vice President Cheney's old company, has soared. And even as the government turned increasingly to contractors, it reduced its oversight.
The largest cost of this mismanaged war has been borne by Iraq. Half of its doctors have been killed or have left the country, unemployment stands at 25 percent, and, five years after the war's start, Baghdad still has less than eight hours of electricity a day. Out of Iraq's total population of around 28 million, four million are displaced and two million have fled the country.
Statistical studies of death rates before and after the invasion highlight the grim reality. They suggest additional deaths in the first 40 months of the war from a low of about 450,000 - 150,000 of them violent - to 600,000.
With so many people in Iraq suffering so much in so many ways, it may seem callous to discuss the enormous economic costs to the United States. And it may seem particularly self-absorbed to focus on the economic costs to the nation, which embarked on this war in violation of international law. But the economic costs are enormous, and they go well beyond budgetary outlays.
Americans like to say that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Nor is there such a thing as a free war. The United States - and the world - will be paying the price for decades to come.

