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#61 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 115 weeks ago

The a-word is back in GN'R members' interviews. Duff promises an album:

The rockers have been on tour virtually full-time since they reformed seven years ago. They’ve released just two new songs, Hard Skool and Perhaps, but McKagan reassures fans a new album will happen eventually, promising: “Don’t worry, we’ve got this.”

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment … -new-album

#62 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 116 weeks ago

Yes, the change of venue in Phoenix doesn't have to do with low ticket sales or anything like that. It's just that the team that uses Chase Field has unexpectedly made the playoffs and their third game is on the same date as the GN'R show.

So the options for GN'R/LN were to reschedule it on a later date at the same venue (probably logistically difficult or impossible), cancel it altogether or move it to another venue.

https://ktar.com/story/5542947/phoenix- … ayoff-run/

#63 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 118 weeks ago

New Tommy Stinson interview (he has said this before):

When talk turns to the atmosphere around the band around the 2008 release of Chinese Democracy, which emerged some 17 years on from the band's last original albums, 1991's Use Your Illusion I and II, Stinson tells Stocks that he looks on the period fondly, describing it as "a crazy, beautiful mess."

"That Jimmy Iovine pulled that record out of Axl's hands at the fucking 11.30th hour is the only disappointing part of that," he adds. "I don't know if it would have changed anything about the public's view of it, the only thing it would have changed was Axl's view of it. He was this close to being able to sign off on that fucking thing, and they pulled it just before he was completely ready to be going 'I'm done with it', it was just a little too quick on that. That's unfortunate. But all things considered, we made a great record."

https://www.loudersound.com/news/guns-n … -punk-rock

#64 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 119 weeks ago

guts wrote:

https://shop.universalmusic.it/products … -7-45-giri

The 7" includes another unreleased track on the B-side, The General, available only in this physical product and which will never be released digitally.

Looks like I'll be downloading a copy for myself

The information about no digital release has been removed now:

https://shop.universalmusic.it/products … -7-45-giri

That was the only international Universal online store that had that bit anyway.

#65 Re: Guns N' Roses » The next GNR album: Current known state of songs » 119 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:
Blackstar wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:

I do recall reading one of his books on GNR a long time ago i forget the name of it. But there was nothing as outlandish as blagic magic spells and stuff in there lol. Niven Goldstein and Adler rarely do themselves any favours when they are interviewed. Izzy's far smarter in that regard i think

He has released three GN'R books: one back in 1991 (which just had extended versions of his interviews with band members), a shitty Axl "biography" titled "W.A.R." in 2007 (maybe that's the one you have read?) and another one in 2016/17 titled "The Last Of The Giants", in which he reiterates a lot of the same stuff from the Axl "biography" but there's some additional stuff in it, mainly the quotes from Niven and Goldstein.

It was that one yes, i just found it on my shelf oddly sat next to a copy of Catcher In The Rye that I forgot I owned. As bad as some of the Mick Wall stuff is at least he is a better writer than Del, Now there's a book I struggled to get through

I have only read Del's "Without You" story (or rather I have tried to get through it and it was a drag). Different genres, though. Del wrote fiction, whereas Mick Wall is supposed to write about real life events.

#66 Re: Guns N' Roses » The next GNR album: Current known state of songs » 119 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:
Blackstar wrote:
Shacklermyrye wrote:

Well now I know to avoid Mick Walls book lol. What a load of shit

Yeah, his 2007 Axl biography was garbage. His latest one from 2017 has a lot of that same crap, but there is some interesting stuff in the original interviews with Niven and Goldstein (those two definitely didn't do themselves any favours with the stuff they said in there, lol).

I do recall reading one of his books on GNR a long time ago i forget the name of it. But there was nothing as outlandish as blagic magic spells and stuff in there lol. Niven Goldstein and Adler rarely do themselves any favours when they are interviewed. Izzy's far smarter in that regard i think

He has released three GN'R books: one back in 1991 (which just had extended versions of his interviews with band members), a shitty Axl "biography" titled "W.A.R." in 2007 (maybe that's the one you have read?) and another one in 2016/17 titled "The Last Of The Giants", in which he reiterates a lot of the same stuff from the Axl "biography" but there's some additional stuff in it, mainly the quotes from Niven and Goldstein.

#67 Re: Guns N' Roses » The next GNR album: Current known state of songs » 119 weeks ago

Shacklermyrye wrote:

Well now I know to avoid Mick Walls book lol. What a load of shit

Yeah, his 2007 Axl biography was garbage. His latest one from 2017 has a lot of that same crap, but there is some interesting stuff in the original interviews with Niven and Goldstein (those two definitely didn't do themselves any favours with the stuff they said in there, lol).

#68 Re: Guns N' Roses » The next GNR album: Current known state of songs » 119 weeks ago

monkeychow wrote:

Well we'd always heard talk of Yoda and Axl screening people's aura before they work for him, rumours he thought himself or slash possessed and all this kinda stuff.

I put it down as fan crazy talk mixed with a bit of "Axl is an unusual guy".

But then I read later in one of the autobiographies, I think it was Alan Niven's book (but its been a while) , where he casually mentions going down south to meet up Izzy to try and regroup things (I forget where it was without re-reading it but it was something like Louisiana or New Orleans where Izzy had shot through to) and he mentions casually that Izzy was there getting some voodoo spell cast on Axl.

To me this puts a different spin on Axl's behaviour too, like sure he's quirky with belief stuff, but it's sort of forgivable to be a bit quirky when dudes are actively cursing you or whatever in their spare time 16 I guess what I mean is - whether or not it actually works - it's not just that Axl thinks the spiritual world is after him - one of his best mates actually IS trying to put spells on him. Sort of spreads the odd behaviours more evenly if you see what i mean. 

On a side note, it's actually kinda weird how many bands have at some stage fooled around in such things, like Motley did some stuff, Megadeth did some things, I guess it was a fad in the 1980s but it's weird these days to read about this stuff as if its a normal thing to go do.

Not Izzy. Alan Niven had hired someone to cast black magic spells on Axl and "fight" Yoda. Crazy stuff.

Niven himself and Goldstein told the story in Mick Wall's latest GN'R book:

Mick Wall wrote:

A man on the verge of a breakdown, Niven was convinced by then that he was, as he puts is, ‘under psychic attack’ from Axl. Convinced that Axl was utilising the forces offered to him by Sharon Maynard and her circle of crystal-gazing, future-reading, aura-controlling followers, Niven had gone in search of his own form of magical defence. Stephanie Fanning, who had initially left to work with Niven, had firsthand knowledge of some of Niven’s occult intentions at this time. ‘I think he dabbled in some things when the band was gone,’ she says. ‘He was kind of talking to a couple of interesting people that I think were dabbling in that as well. But Axl was doing the same thing. I felt like they were duelling each other with a little bit of their whatever you want to call that – black magic, whatever. I think they were duelling each other. One would hear like, “I hear Axl’s doing this to me, I’m gonna do …” I feel like it was kind of going on between the two of them. I don’t know how much credence I place in that but, yeah, he was. He was. He definitely was. A little bit, for sure. I don’t know exactly if Alan was wishing Axl ill or hoping maybe to bring clarity between the two of them, cos to be honest as soon as I heard about it I kind of shut my ears off. I was like, I don’t want to get mixed up in any of that. I don’t know what that is. Maybe it scared me, I don’t know. I don’t know whether it was black or white, evil or good. Bring us back together; tear him apart … But I know he was talking to people who dealt in that world.’

Eventually, Fanning left Niven – to go and work with Doug Goldstein again. ‘Alan, he went kind of underground. He stayed in LA for a couple of years while he was building the house [in Arizona]. But I was really hoping he’d get back in the game. Like, get back in the game. I’d bring him music into the office like, hey, check this out. And he just couldn’t … He just wasn’t … I don’t know if something left him. Look, it was even hard for me to wake up the next morning when GN’R was over. There was a huge emptiness in my stomach. A huge emptiness in my soul not to be with that band any more. So I can imagine what it was like for him.’

‘I already knew that [Niven] was into the Crowley, Jimmy Page, that whole kind of thing,’ says Doug Goldstein. ‘Him and Izzy used to go into New Orleans quite a bit.’ When Steph went back to work with Doug, she felt obliged to tell Doug of some of Alan’s strange behaviour. ‘She said, “He hired a black-magic specialist from New Orleans and every single day after work before he would go home he would go over there and they would put on black robes, and the candles and the incense, and they would cast evil spells on you and Axl.’ I was like, what a rat bastard, man! I mean, a) what a waste of fucking money. But b) what an evil bastard.’

As far as Alan Niven is concerned now, though, ‘the psychic attack was definitely manifest in the deliberate undermining of [Izzy’s solo outfit] the JuJu Hounds by Goldstein and [Axl].’ He feels this ‘psychic attack’ was also manifest in the sharp decline of Great White’s fortunes: specifically by the arrival at their label, Capitol, of the former Zoo Entertainment promotions chief Ray Gmeiner, as replacement for Michael Prince, who had long been a supporter of Great White. ‘Gmeiner was Goldstein’s former roommate,’ he adds ominously.

This was the last straw, he says. He had been ‘on the dark side of the moon to everyone in West Hollywood’ since losing the GN’R gig. A couple of tentative feelers from big-name acts had come his way in the immediate aftermath of the split, but Niven wasn’t interested. The big one was when David Geffen invited him to work with Bon Jovi. But it nearly made him puke, he says, when Jon Bon Jovi turned up at their first meeting with his lawyer and accountant in tow. ‘How could I possibly get excited, it was diametrically opposed to the nature and essence of my passion? This is not a job to me. It’s something that I value beyond a job.’ He sighs. ‘It was a very dark period for me and it got darker and darker.’

Next he discovered that his wife had been having a long-term affair with Great White’s vocalist, Jack Russell. ‘He was terrified I was going to find out.’ It was a discovery that led to the overwhelming realisation that she had in fact ‘compromised pretty much every relationship that was of value to me. And who the hell would want a toxic individual like that in a business structure?’ With his marriage in tatters and his career being held back by what he was convinced were ‘psychic’ forces, he recalled a place in New Orleans he’d once visited with Izzy called Barrington’s: ‘A retail mausoleum of ritualistic cornucopia. That covered all kinds of spiritual expression, from elephants’ feet with weird things buried in them packed with mud, to drinking skulls … I still have a couple of items from there’, including a large wooden rosary, a cross made from the staff of a bishop … ‘I’m a fucking atheist. I’m managing a rock’n’roll band. I have very little knowledge but I’m curious … I have two Coptic Ethiopian healing scrolls. One of them is intact, about seven feet long. It’s very rare to find a whole one because they’re concertinaed. They’re stunningly beautiful. I bought two Coptic bibles there that were about 400 years old. The pages are like bark. All hand-constructed and handwritten …’

He stresses, though: ‘I’m curious but I’m always going towards the light. So when things were going bat shit and I couldn’t figure anything out … I got to this point of: “This is ridiculous. There’s something to all this. Maybe I’ve been hexed. Maybe someone’s put a fucking curse on me.” So I called the guy at Barrington’s …’

Niven was put in touch with someone who offered help – at a price. ‘I’d walked through the door. Whatever scepticism I had, I’d knocked on the door and it had been opened so I walked through it.’ For several months, he studied under ‘a mad monk – he was huge and looked like he’d been picked out of a medieval monastery. To this day I still don’t know how much of a bullshitter he was. I do know how much of a manipulator he was because I had to fly him here. I had to fly him there. I had to take care of him at this point. But he introduced me to a whole area of reading that I’d been oblivious to. Which was basically occult reading … the secret knowledge. I learned that the simple truth is that truth is simple. That you simply find the truth by simply being truthful.

‘At this point in my life I have a real clarity of darkness and light. But at that point I was just in pain. Isolated and confused. And this guy said, “I can ceremonially get rid of the negatives that are attacking you.” And I was being psychologically attacked and I was in a psychological and spiritual warfare. There was a lot of negativity being put my way. Goldstein is just one of the people who was putting out that energy in my direction. Axl was another who was putting out that energy in my direction. Yoda was probably another one that was putting out that energy because she wanted to exploit him.

‘I was his guard. Once I was out of the way they could feed off him like fucking maggots. So I had to go and have these special knives made, crudely, out of a particular copper. And there was going to be some ceremony of putting the knives in a certain way. And the fact that a water pipe broke was supposed to be symbolic. And I started to go, I think I’m being fucking had here. And I eventually cut myself off from this guy. But, yeah, my open mind, at that moment, to such as hexing and hoodoo was an act of defensive desperation … nothing was working and all felt unpleasant … I couldn’t figure what the hell was going on … and not going on …’

Axl said in the 1992 Rolling Stone interview that he was angry at Izzy for having Niven as the Ju Ju Hounds manager. I guess it was because of that.

#69 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 120 weeks ago

James wrote:
Blackstar wrote:

They forgot Knockin' On Heaven's Door at one of the shows in Europe (first time it wasn't played at a "normal" show since forever), Civil War at one of the recent NA shows and Brownstone at a couple. That happens when shuffling the setlist.

But yeah, forgetting the new single is a bit much.

That's mind blowing. Do they do this periodically to make us believe that thing about no set list and it's all spontaneous?

Even if Axl forgets...the rest of the band is right there.

This might be a minor peak behind the curtain.

I don't know, maybe the rest of the band just don't care if a song that they've been playing every night is skipped for once. Unless it's their solo spot. Duff's spot is usually somewhere in the middle of the set and a few songs before Slash's solo spot and Sweet Child O' Mine. At one of the recent shows it seemed that Axl forgot Duff's song and went to the band introductions and Slash's solo earlier, and I guess then Duff reminded him.

I'd like to think (although it's probably wishful thinking) that Axl watched the Ritz '91 and realized how cool they used to be at that time and wanted to bring an ounce of that spontaneity back. I think they had forgotten to play You Could Be Mine at one of the 1991 pre-UYI release shows.

#70 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 120 weeks ago

They forgot Knockin' On Heaven's Door at one of the shows in Europe (first time it wasn't played at a "normal" show since forever), Civil War at one of the recent NA shows and Brownstone at a couple. That happens when shuffling the setlist.

But yeah, forgetting the new single is a bit much.

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