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#61 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 39 weeks ago
sp1at, do you know if Zodiac was ever completed with vocals?
On the village disc it list Zodiac no vox so it's safe to assume it has vocals.
#62 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 39 weeks ago
sp1at wrote:Bill Brasky wrote:I asked and appreciates your response because someone told me a week ago Nothin' was Down By The Ocean. Obviously the information can be wrong and if you trust your source which seem very reputable i withdraw my Nothin' being Down By The Ocean claim. Obviously you have a better source and i know you're a reputable poster.
A description of the song would be nice.
Ha. It was a short clip a long time ago. It really wasn't that exciting, but it didn't sound like Nothing.
I'll ask my wife tomorrow,.she might remember it better than me.
I appreciate it.
Just so you know we did a episode of Sheeeit radio early today and uploaded it regarding the new songs, i said in the video that a source told Nothin' was Down By The Ocean. I just made quick video Brasky was wrong about Nothin ?
Because of the conversation we had and in that video stated what you said here and how you're a reputable poster so my information must be wrong.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/gggOWUay0UA?si=_C96j4mJ1SLha6fI[/youtube]
[youtube]https://youtu.be/Y6HI3nUafGA?si=-TRSCqeKirHd6udO[/youtube]
#63 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 39 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:sp1at wrote:It was 18-19 years ago. It was validated officially by someone. I just followed advice back then and left it alone
This is definitely hypocritical coming from me of all people but i have to ask are you sure this person was in a position to verify (cough Merck cough) and did they verify the title ?
The timeline is definitely accurate so no question there.
What about a description.
I remember i had atlas back in the day and when people asked for a description post reunion i described it as November rain meets Scraped. People knew about the November rain description thanks to a rolling stone article but the scrapped description i think was incredibly accurate.
Merck never liked me much, but I had comms with everyone at certain points in time, including Izzy. We did interviews with Brain and Dizzy alot. Song stuff was always a no go unless someone else said it or did it, and I can quote them. The trading and leaking is not my thing
I asked and appreciates your response because someone told me a week ago Nothin' was Down By The Ocean. Obviously the information can be wrong and if you trust your source which seem very reputable i withdraw my Nothin' being Down By The Ocean claim. Obviously you have a better source and i know you're a reputable poster.
A description of the song would be nice.
#64 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 39 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:sp1at wrote:Odd story
When I was doing my website years ago, people thought I was a trader, which I wasn't. I heard 10-15 seconds of that song from someone who thought I had other songs, which I didn't.
I don't remember much, but I think I'd know it if I heard it
I don't doubt what you're saying i just question if the clip you heard was real or actually Down By The Ocean.
Can you describe to us what you heard ?
Roughly the year it was sent ?
Why you believe it to be real ?Do you understand where i coming from ?
It was 18-19 years ago. It was validated officially by someone. I just followed advice back then and left it alone
This is definitely hypocritical coming from me of all people but i have to ask are you sure this person was in a position to verify (cough Merck cough) and did they verify the title ?
The timeline is definitely accurate so no question there.
What about a description.
I remember i had atlas back in the day and when people asked for a description post reunion i described it as November rain meets Scraped. People knew about the November rain description thanks to a rolling stone article but the scrapped description i think was incredibly accurate.
#65 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 39 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:sp1at wrote:it's not Down by the Ocean, which also wasn't Box
Based on what ?
Have you heard Down By The Ocean ?
Odd story
When I was doing my website years ago, people thought I was a trader, which I wasn't. I heard 10-15 seconds of that song from someone who thought I had other songs, which I didn't.
I don't remember much, but I think I'd know it if I heard it
I don't doubt what you're saying i just question if the clip you heard was real or actually Down By The Ocean.
Can you describe to us what you heard ?
Roughly the year it was sent ?
Why you believe it to be real ?
Do you understand where i coming from ?
#66 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 39 weeks ago
FlashFlood wrote:Shacklermyrye wrote:Yeah I like Nothing too, probably the best of the post CD songs to be fair
'On a restless sea' = Down by the ocean/Down by the sea? probably not but who knows. I remember Axl saying Fink played an SRV style solo on one song, I would imagine that was Nothing.
I had this thought too. A theory could be Down By The Ocean could have been a working title based on the island-sounding guitar lick. Seems like something Izzy could come up with. The big thing that goes against it is the demo had no mention of bodies of water in the lyrics. What are the writing credits?
it's not Down by the Ocean, which also wasn't Box
Based on what ?
Have you heard Down By The Ocean ?
#67 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 39 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:Shacklermyrye wrote:I haven't seen credits anywhere. I know what you mean about island sounding lick
Per YouTube
Producer, Vocalist: Axl Rose
Mixing Engineer, Producer, Engineer: Caram Costanzo
Additional Engineer: Eric Caudieux
Background Vocalist: Duff McKagan
Composer Lyricist: Guns N' RosesJust a hunch, but I doubt Izzy is getting screwed on writing credits, even with the current bad blood between the two camps.
If it was just a rough demo and frame work that was changed a lot then he wouldn't get a credit.
Where's Izzy's creditd Velvet Revolver's contraband ? No bad blood there.
#68 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 39 weeks ago
FlashFlood wrote:Shacklermyrye wrote:Yeah I like Nothing too, probably the best of the post CD songs to be fair
'On a restless sea' = Down by the ocean/Down by the sea? probably not but who knows. I remember Axl saying Fink played an SRV style solo on one song, I would imagine that was Nothing.
I had this thought too. A theory could be Down By The Ocean could have been a working title based on the island-sounding guitar lick. Seems like something Izzy could come up with. The big thing that goes against it is the demo had no mention of bodies of water in the lyrics. What are the writing credits?
I haven't seen credits anywhere. I know what you mean about island sounding lick
Per YouTube
Producer, Vocalist: Axl Rose
Mixing Engineer, Producer, Engineer: Caram Costanzo
Additional Engineer: Eric Caudieux
Background Vocalist: Duff McKagan
Composer Lyricist: Guns N' Roses
#69 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 39 weeks ago
Yeah I like Nothing too, probably the best of the post CD songs to be fair
'On a restless sea' = Down by the ocean/Down by the sea? probably not but who knows. I remember Axl saying Fink played an SRV style solo on one song, I would imagine that was Nothing.
I was told a few weeks ago by somebody that Nothin' was the framework of Down By The Ocean hence i wrote the update to the Chinese Democracy unreleased definitive list on. Badapplesforum was coming soon on Monday i was waiting on Nothin' to release before the update.
It would make sense the village sessions version had no instrumentals except keyboard.
Can i confirm this with anything factual ?
No. But it does make sense to me.
Axl also listed Down By The Ocean as a real song title in the 2008 forum chats.
Shacklermyrye you pointing it out instantly and all the credit to you on dentist drill sound effect on the village sessions version of Tonto which would make sense being Toothpuller.
Very impressive on your part.
#70 Re: Guns N' Roses » Nothin' » 39 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:If anyone is interested
https://youtu.be/TD6Ma7osJ_I?si=oEHEen6F4ShFAMjpGreat episode!
Nightrain members received no special pre-sale ticket benefits?!? NEW LOW!!!
Perhaps the band shouild switch to whomever manages Slash or Duff. Those 2 put out new material without any glitches or "technical difficulties".
I wonder if they tweaked the names of the songs to cut out previous contributors from royalties.
Thanks !
Nightrain members did get a presale code but many posters on mygnr and gnr reddit said they were able to buy tickets without the pre sale code by just signing into ticketmaster.
They were able buy regular tickets and vip tickets without a presale code.
