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#691 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR soundchecks Slither » 414 weeks ago
So there's 4 possibilities here:
1. They soundcheck it without playing it.
2. Axl sings it in his mickey/seeker voice
3. Axl sings it in his Nightrain verses voice.
4. Axl sings it in his Back In Black Voice.
The last one would be epic, the second last ok, and the others underwhelming.
#692 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 415 weeks ago
monkeychow wrote:misterID wrote:Is that what happened? They got a street team of people to get stuff taken down?
Not at all thankfully.
Neither walker, nor the other person who is pulling stuff, has any official mandate or authority to impersonate the band's management or get anything taken down.
Good lord, this might be worse. I have an idea who might be instigating this.
It's not a secret, it's walker and warchild.
#693 Re: Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses tour to continue through 2017(and beyond) » 415 weeks ago
Is that what happened? They got a street team of people to get stuff taken down?
Not at all thankfully.
Neither walker, nor the other person who is pulling stuff, has any official mandate or authority to impersonate the band's management or get anything taken down.
#694 Re: Guns N' Roses » Silkworms - General discussion and Rumors » 415 weeks ago
Well I know a few people from here who won't be posting videos or links here ever again and will stick to private groups on facebook. So I guess that works.
#695 Re: Guns N' Roses » Izzy: "Sometimes things don't work out" » 415 weeks ago
Finck and Bucket, much as I love them, cemented this image of post-Slash GN'R as an oddball carnival instead of the rock band they used to be.
Yeah totally....I remember watching Rock in Rio 3 with friends who are casuals. They were interested to watch the video cos they'd been fans of the UYI era a decade earlier, but the whole thing just didn't seem like it was GNR to them.
Another big part of it was Axl's voice that night.
I have a soft spot for the RIR3 show for the atmosphere and the premiere of the new songs....BUT....if you last saw Axl in UYI tour form and you're a casual....the voice change was offputting to say the least...you could maybe recover from that by looking at the familiar faces....but no...they're swapped out for the circus....and then you're shaking your head going thinking WTF about that...when pitman's synth is cranked to insane levels and overrides even the guitars....then most people check out.
Like I say...I kinda like the show anyway....but show a casual YCBM or something from that show and they will tell you about how it isn't GNR.
It's curious that we could see this but no one near Axl dared tell him.
#696 Re: Guns N' Roses » Izzy: "Sometimes things don't work out" » 415 weeks ago
I’ve sometimes wondered how GNR goes over if only Slash left from the end of the UYI tour. If Axl patches things up with everyone else and the rest of the band move forward.
It would be interesting...but there's stuff they'd have to do:
1. The band just didn't really move forward. I don't wanna start bashing but when you consider that from 1992-2018 there's been only one album - it doesn't help people accept the line up as part of the band if it's just covers. Demonstrate that you can still make songs that fit with the old music. (Notice how Ac/Dc do this).
2. Don't change up the overall style. No chris pittman pumping out synth at double guitar volume at RIR3 etc. No attempts to be Nine Inch Nails. GNR would have to try and be like 1991 GNR just with a new lead guitarist - not be trying to evolve our understanding of what it means to be GNR.
3. Hire a guitarist who fits with Slash's sound. Robin simply didn't have the chops. Bucket and Bumble absolutely do but their natural styles are completely different to 99% of GNR music. Someone with a blues-rock background but scary chops was what was needed - someone like Doug Aldrich who brought fresh life into whitesnake for a time.
If they'd done those things...you'd probably have some degree of acceptance by the general public, but overall a significant portion of the GNR sound is Slash's style mixed with Axl's voice,so you'd probably always be playing catch-up.
#697 Re: Guns N' Roses » Izzy: "Sometimes things don't work out" » 415 weeks ago
If that were completely true Axl and Slash would have been much more successful with their solo projects....
I think the solo projects kinda prove the point....
2012 GNR were reduced to playing theatres in the USA and doing retirement style Vegas residencies. Duff cameoed a few times with the slashless lineups and outside of a bit of "wow it was duff" music press it didn't do anything for the overall success. Add Slash back and it's an international event that runs for multiple years playing stadiums.
Axl was one of the greatest singers of all time, which bought him a lot of credit with the public, in fact it bought him so much credit that was able to actively sabotage his own career and survive. He seems to see himself as the victim of the media - but if you think about it - he was given a lot of leeway by his fans: He spent more than a decade in total isolation, he's been mostly a recluse since 1993 or so, he actively refuses to participate in most media, he took control of the band and drove out or fired the entire rest of the famous line up, has released only something like 15 songs in 30 years or whatever it is now, changed his image and that of the band to something wildly different from what made him famous, publicly bashed the old sound and old lineups, cancelled tours, actively pursued fundamentally changing the musical directon of the act and sang in a different voices from what he was famous for.
Who else could get away with that for as long? But the public gave him 30 years of "maybe this will come good" and was only getting tired of it around 2014....then as soon as he is back with Slash...all is forgiven....because what they wanted all along is that Axl/Slash combo.
Likewise it's no surprise that Slash's most successful non-GNR project was VR - where he was pitted with another well known temperamental front man in Scott. It didn't play out that well as although fun they didn't have the chemistry of a Slash/Axl combo. Slash is also able to do well with Myles who is capable of covering the GNR stuff....but again....they play smaller venues....and no one cared that slash had been doing nightrain nightly with myles for 6 years....as soon as he did it again with Axl it's mainstream news.
The band is all about Axl and Slash. The others played a roll in writing and the sound and us hardcores appreciate that - but the general public only cares about Axl and Slash. I honestly think you could put Axl and Slash in with 3 or 4 of us and the press would accept it as GNR.
I mean in a way they kinda have...who is melissa? A random session musician with a jpop image and background in non-traditional GNR sounds like computers and remixing - and with absolutely no historical connection to GNR and no performance on any released GNR track...yet she's up there as a valid part of the NITL line up and tour and accepted by the press as part of GNR and part of the GNR reunion....cos Axl and Slash said she was. That's all it took.
#698 Re: Guns N' Roses » Izzy: "Sometimes things don't work out" » 415 weeks ago
I think they've blown their load now with a reunion.
Maybe in the future they could do some sort of novelty show with the AFD5 but I don't think they'd get a lot of additional interest from the press if they themed the entire tour around it - the press already wrote all their "the sky is falling GNR is back together" articles. The return now of Izzy or Adler would be like additional line in the press release about a new tour in general...but the big payday was Axl and Slash side by side.
Only hardcores really care about the rhythm guitarist, and a LOT of the casual fans got on board around the UYI era. Sure AFD is the biggest record - but UYI had a lot of the crossover mainstream not just hard rocker songs that got a wider audience - NR, KOHD, Don't Cry...those kinda fans...to a lot of those people Izzy isn't even missing because on their picture disc was a photo of gilby, and he's the guy they saw on the tour anyway.
This NITL tour is really capturing the memories of the UYI tour....and izzy was only around for some of that. I'm not saying he wasn't important to the band...but I'm not sure the general public outside of us hardcores really appreciates that kinda importance.
Likewise to me the biggest thing they could do to improve the band sound and chemistry right now would be to bring in Matt, and perhaps have steven guest a song or two every show just out of respect, but they won't do it - it's not really the AFD or UYI line up but the media (and most of us) gives them a pass and calls it the reunion anyway - because only musicians are going to care about the drummer, and only purists care about the rhythm guitar. This band is about the vocals and lead guitar - always has been really...that's how they got away with it in 1993 and it's how they get away with it today.
#699 Re: Guns N' Roses » Silkworms - General discussion and Rumors » 415 weeks ago
So much nonsense with this band.
Besides we've established you can't post links to people on this forum anymore after the saskatoon gig was requested then the link provided was reported by the user here who requested it and nothing was done about it.
#700 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR.FM | Destruction Is Coming » 415 weeks ago
Personally I think TIL has a beautiful melody. I'd have loved to hear a slash version in the studio.
