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#751 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 479 weeks ago
I'm not going to out anyone. .
You just threatened to Dox me too btw...
#752 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 479 weeks ago
Why is this language allowed? Mitch has used the N word and now uses a slur for Hispanics. Why is this tolerated?
This poster contributes nothing but anger and hostility to any discussion he joins. He's not intelligent and doesn't follow any rhyme or reason.
Is this what the forum represents? A bigot who used racial slurs and openly attacks anyone who doesn't agree with him?
Neemo? Lofton? Any feedback here? Can anyone say with a straight face Mitch is a constructive poster? Can anyone point to a post where Mitch isn't an abrasive and combative troll?
Are racial slurs ok now?
I'm serious. This guy repeatedly calls other racists, but he's the only one using slurs. He's a 30 something white guy who obviously is badly damaged and gets some kind of twisted gratification attacking me and repeatedly using racist terminology.
I've reported him. I want someone to declare if this type of offensive language is tolerated. The first rule on the forum guidelines bans this language, yet Mitch repeatedly uses them.
If the mods want to allow Mitch to continue this, can we please implement the ignore feature? I don't associate or converse with neo nazis and I don't want to be associated with someone who is bold enough to use these words on a public forum. It's bad enough I have to endure his continued stupidity and lack of any thought or effort into his posts.
Project much?
#753 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
What more proof of a secret Russian connection do we need?
Evidence that then-presidential candidate Donald Trump was pursuing a lucrative business deal with Russia and that his personal attorney, Michael Cohen, emailed Russian President Vladimir Putin’s personal spokesman to intervene raises the stakes in Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation substantially. The Post reports:
Cohen’s email to [Dmitry] Peskov provides an example of a Trump business official directly seeking Kremlin assistance in advancing Trump’s business interests. … Cohen said he discussed the deal three times with Trump and that Trump signed a letter of intent with the company on Oct. 28, 2015. He said the Trump company began to solicit designs from architects and discuss financing.
Ethics expert Norman Eisen warns: “Now we have a second group of emails from those in Trump’s orbit suggesting high-level outreach to Russia in and around the election season. Like the now-famous email exchange with Don Jr. about Russia’s ‘support for Mr. Trump,’ these new documents promising that ‘Putin’s team’ will ‘buy in’ on Trump raise the question of what the president knew of all this and when he knew it.” He tells me, “The emails add important additional evidence to the special counsel’s investigation, both as to possible collusion and as to obstruction of justice, inasmuch as they deepen the suspicion of a possible malign Trump motive for attempting to block the Russia investigation.”
Now, Cohen insists to The Post that the Trump Tower Moscow proposal was “not related in any way to Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign.” But of course, we don’t know that and neither does he. Mueller, however, will be looking for evidence, as Eisen puts it, “that Trump or his agents actually agreed to better treatment for Putin and Russia in exchange for a present or future Trump Tower Moscow.” That would, he says, “go beyond collusion to outright corruption.” But even without a smoking gun showing a quid pro quo, the extent to which Trump was compromised — and may remain so — should concern Congress and the voters.
Was Trump trying to keep on Putin’s good side to advance his deal? Did he think Putin was someone the United States could do business with because he was seeking to do business with Russians? Trump’s effort to conceal his finances and mislead the public about business dealings, with a foe of the United States no less, may have affected his rhetoric and decisions in ways we have yet to discover.
As we learn more about Trump’s Russian dealings, his actions in trying to shut down the investigation become more understandable. “These new emails make the obstruction charge more substantial, because it gives heavier context to the cover-up,” says Fordham law professor Jed Shugerman. “There was fire under all that smoke. The firing of Comey was already impeachable as obstruction, but it’s politically more powerful in connecting the cover-up to real corruption.”
The extent of Trump’s political and legal jeopardy slowly comes into focus with new, daily discoveries. Clint Watts, a former FBI special agent (who has testified on Russian meddling) and now a fellow with the Foreign Policy Research Institute, tells me, “Trump’s claims to have nothing to do with Russia are clearly false with revelations Cohen emailed the Kremlin directly to gain support for a Trump Tower Moscow.
Trump’s laudatory comments of Putin came at times when Trump’s companies also sought Kremlin-assisted business help.” He continues, “Some will interpret Felix Sater’s comments as over-the-top salesmanship leading to no direct connections with the Kremlin. But why would Sater believe he would get ‘Putin on this program’ and that the Kremlin could get Trump elected?” Unless Sater chooses to take the Fifth Amendment, we won’t have to guess; Mueller’s team will no doubt question him and include the findings in his final report.
Some in Congress are disturbed that Trump himself has not been forthcoming or, indeed, has been misleading about his Russia dealings. Rep. Elijah E. Cummings (Md.), ranking Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, tells me, “If this new report is true, why wasn’t this disclosed sooner? Why, like so many times before, are the American people forced to find out new details about the President’s relationship with Russians from strong investigative reporting instead of from the President himself?”
All of this comes in the context of Trump’s eagerness during the campaign for Russia to hack and release Hillary Clinton’s emails. “[The Cohen] emails came at a time when Russia’s hacking teams breached the DNC and numerous other American targets and Russian media began promoting Trump even though he seemed nothing more than a reality TV star looking for attention,” Watts observes. “For those that continue to deny Russian meddling, I can’t imagine what additional evidence they would need to know that Russia sought to elect Trump, and Team Trump wasn’t adverse to it, and maybe even hopeful for it.”
The interaction of Trump’s personal finances with foreign powers should also remind Congress and voters that Trump continues to receive money through his businesses from foreign governments, be they be in the form of bookings at his hotel or benefits derived from expedited trademarks. This is the essence of financial corruption — when someone benefits financially because of his official position. The extent to which it affects judgments on policy issues invariably remains murky. And in the case of Trump — who assumes anyone who likes him and treats him well is a “good guy” — the combination of personal finances and presidential powers is unconscionable.
Republicans have refused to address this issue in any serious way, allowing the conflicts to fester and Trump’s finances to remain opaque. Congress has the power to legislate — to disallow emoluments, require divestiture of businesses, bar relatives (with their own holdings) from serving in government and mandate disclosure of tax returns. In failing to take any action, Republicans are complicit in Trump’s debasement of the presidency and of our democracy.
So long as Republicans retain the majority in both houses, the problem will deepen. Either their indulgence of Trump or their majorities must go if we are to reestablish normal government and reject foreign corruption of our political system.
#754 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
#755 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
Oh Flagg...you're just so grounded and fair....
What would we do without your constant condescending tone and arrogance?
Again, it would be a nothing burger if it were a sole occurrence, but it most certainly is not. It's an endless string of events, including Junior's meeting ( "I love it!") with Russians to get dirt on Hillary.
Intent too, is everything.
"The emails show that, from the earliest months of Mr. Trump’s campaign, some of his associates viewed close ties with Moscow as a political advantage. Those ties are now under investigation by the Justice Department and multiple congressional committees."
"Mr. Trump, however signed a nonbinding “letter of intent” for the project in 2015. Mr. Cohen said he discussed the project with Mr. Trump three times."
#756 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
I read the article. Also you're not welcome to speak on my behalf. I've told you this before.
Just another coincidence on a huge pile of coincidences it seems.
I also think it's funny how you quote Trump's response to this. As if he's not some pathological liar.
#757 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
But her emails...
Trump Associate Boasted That Moscow Business Deal ‘Will Get Donald Elected’
#758 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 480 weeks ago
Lots of subjects:
1) IMO, it's not difficult to understand why confederate statues offend some Americans. It was a dark time for America, we existed as a proto-Nazi state, where we bought/sold humans, enslaved them and murdered them. We also tortured these people mentally, emotionally, spiritually, sexually and physically for our enjoyment. I'm sure there is a historical significance for some people. However I find it rather difficult to believe that the group that chanted "Jews will not replace us" and marched down the street with torches sincerely gave two shits about "historical significance."
2) I despise southern accents, even though mine still sneaks through every now and then. I still drop my gs. Goin', sayin', doin'....I try to be mindful and correct myself. Most of the peeps I heard speak with deep southern accents were assholes, religious freaks, rednecks etc..at least that's how I saw it. Accurate? Probably not, but that's my bias.
3) Trump is currently on the brink of war with the GOP. I'm starting to think he's setting himself up to get booted out of office on purpose. I can arrive at no other explanation for his behavior.
4) Christopher Steele who was responsible for the famous dossier, just had a sit down with the FBI and provided his sources.
5) Trump pardoned ex-Sheriff Joe Arpaio, then announced it on Twitter. SMDH.
6) With all this drama, it's often overlooked that Trump's government is woefully understaffed to say the least. The state department is one I'm very concerned about. That's a security issue IMO. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration doesn't have a permanent director, nor does the National Hurricane Center. Maybe Trump should get the fuck off Twitter for a while and actually get to work?
Edit: Annnnnd Gorka is out.
#759 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 481 weeks ago
A wrecking ball can be a good thing. The status quo sometimes needs be taken to task and taken down. Trump was never that man though. He was good at the wrecking ball part, but not surprisingly that's all he's good at.
Right now he's got half a dozen Republican senators openly criticizing him and is also battling with McConnell. His expansion in Afghanistan may set off the Breitbart crowd too. Bannon and Trump both speak as if his departure was amicable, but we know Trump can turn on a dime. Sometimes in the same sentence.
It's starting to remind me of the end of Scarface, lol. He's at war with nearly everybody in his life, his enemies are coming in from all sides to take a shot, and while some still think he may get out of this mess at the last minute, deep down we know he's doomed.
Does Trump last until December?
I'd guess probably. However Mueller's team includes many lawyers who left million dollar salaries to work on this case, criminal law experts, organized crime experts, financial fraud experts, espionage experts, money laundering experts and a couple who both studied and are familiar with Russia.
Trump's war with lawmakers undermines who is left to stand beside him, but I don't think that'll be what does him in. I think Mueller will.
#760 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 481 weeks ago
Trump basically said he's going to pardon Joe....
Seems like a really dumb move. Is there anybody he doesn't want to alienate?




