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#761 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
slcpunk wrote:

And it's been pointed out several times before, but law enforcement officials across this country are more concerned with right wing terror organizations than Islamic, by 2:1. They don't mention left wing outfits as a concern at this time. 

But let's not let facts get in the way of right wing talking points.

Yes antifa does things I do not agree with and while BLM has legit grievances,  I do not agree with their tactics either.


This isn't true.  .

Actually I was wrong, it's 3:1.


“Since September 12, 2001,the number of fatalities caused by domestic violent extremists has ranged from 1 to 49 in a given year. … Fatalities resulting from attacks by far-right wing violent extremists have exceeded those caused by radical Islamist violent extremists in 10 of the 15 years, and were the same in 3 of the years since September 12, 2001.”

“Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far-right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent) while radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for 23 (27 percent).”

Report: http://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

Right wing extremist are a bigger threat to America than ISIS

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/02/12/righ … 22743.html

Deadly threat from far-right extremists is overshadowed by fear of Islamic terrorism

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/ana … terrorism/

Data: http://start.umd.edu/publications?combi … 5Byear%5D=

“Local law enforcement agencies see the threat of terrorism inspired by al-Qaida and like-minded terrorist organizations as less of a threat than other forms of violent extremism, principally anti-government extremism.”

"The survey of 382 law enforcement agencies, conducted with the Police Executive Research Forum with funding from the National Institute of Justice, found that 74 percent reported anti-government extremism as one of the top terrorist threats in their jurisdictions, while 39 percent listed extremism connected with al-Qaida or like-minded terrorist organizations."

Study: https://sites.duke.edu/tcths/files/2013 … _final.pdf

#762 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

faldor wrote:

This scary mean old "Nazi" woman certainly deserved to be dragged to the ground for holding her American flag. How dare she support free speech in America with such an egregious act. Way to put her in her place and make the world a better place tonight. Keep protesting!

https://mobile.twitter.com/FoxNews/stat … 7453400065

I don't think anybody would claim she was a Nazi, or what they did with her flag was acceptable.

These are Neo Nazis...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIpE1B7BTvk

This, is a Nazi...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FPmojhEeE

Fuck these guys.

#763 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

And it's been pointed out several times before, but law enforcement officials across this country are more concerned with right wing terror organizations than Islamic, by 2:1. They don't mention left wing outfits as a concern at this time. 

But let's not let facts get in the way of right wing talking points.

Yes antifa does things I do not agree with and while BLM has legit grievances,  I do not agree with their tactics either.

#764 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

buzzsaw wrote:

There are no Nazis anymore.  You seem to like to use that term freely because you know what is attached to it.  Are people carrying a rebel flag Confederates?  Just curious if your consistent with your mis-identification of people or not...

Talk about disingenuous.

They chant Nazi slogans, salute like Nazis, praise Hitler, hate Jews, dress like Nazis and call themselves Nazis...

These types of talking points are being perpetrated by the gutter of the American right.

Conservative representatives across this country have come out to condemn this group of white nationalists. They wouldn't for a moment get bogged down in the false equivalency with antifa. Not for a second. In fact they chided Trump for doing it. Nor would they question if they were "really" Nazis or "really" confederates.

The problem with you guys is that you've had Fox News drilled into your heads for 15+ years and this is the only way you're capable of thinking. It is no coincidence that they're saying the same thing.

#765 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

I hope we're not going to try and justify this group.

I don't know who is justifying them. I don't condone attacking police.

I've seen reports on youtube and Twitter. Haven't looked on news sites.

The protest was a flop. About 100-200 white nationalist losers and an estimated 20,000 counter protesters. Boston also doesn't allow "men" to walk around in camos, and carry guns through their city either.

The one thing about these racists pussies is that they love to play the oppressed card.

https://twitter.com/Rambobiggs/status/898938167646203904

#766 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

Figured this was coming...

Edit:

It sure seems as if Trump is burning his allies. He's lashing out at a lot of GOP Congressmen, they are also speaking out about him. His inner circle seems to be tightening down. The business community is walking away from him. James Murdoch just donated a million dollars to the anti defamation league after denouncing Trump's reaction to the Nazi rally. With Bannon gone, the Breitbart crowd may not be far behind.

I don't see how he pulls out of this, it appears to be a downward trajectory.

#767 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

If you're marching in a parade or protest...whatever, and various Nazi flags are flying, you're either a Nazi, or cool with Nazis and support their cause. If not, you'd leave.

That's it in a nutshell. The dregs of the right can make excuses for the attendees, but there are none.

#768 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Trumps gotta be going bonkers cause no way he can pull out his "Radical Islamic Terrorists" card after saying the people chanting "Jews will not replace us" and carrying Nazi flags had some good people in the crowd, and not calling it itself an act of terror.

Wanna make a bet? lol

#769 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

Trump's business advisory council went bye bye today.

Republicans are also jumping ship like a mofo.

This might be a turning point. We've had a lot of lows with Trump, but this may be the worst.

#770 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago

22 min Vice Documentary, definitely worth a watch.

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