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#761 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 734 weeks ago

I think the best thing Axl can do from here is to move forward with his current lineup as quickly as possibly and let them write and release some new music with him.  Seems to me to be the only way to generate some positivity for himself from here.

#762 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 734 weeks ago

smoke wrote:

Who's insulting the band? It's long thread, maybe there was one or two ppl, but most seem to be bashing their low utilization rate.

Yeah there is the artist and the person. The artist is fantastic and we want more of his work with whatever lineup - well at least i do anyhow.

But Axl Rose as a person sadly still seems to be a very ugly individual. 

Recently that's all we have had to talk about - the person. The artist hasn't really been giving us much new stuff to talk about, nor much for us to talk about with his current band mates either.

#763 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 734 weeks ago

metallex78 wrote:
bigbri wrote:

I don't care about he Hall stuff, what really bothers me is all the wasted years ....

Reading back over his statement, neither do I really.
I'm just more angered he won't accept this award to do with the original band, because he thinks it supposedly hinders or discredits the current lineup.

What a load of shit.

It's a complete joke.

There is only one person hindering the current lineup and preventing them from moving forward and its not the nasty man with the top hat, it's the sideshow thats wearing the ridiculous mustache and hat with the crusty the clown hair.

#764 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 734 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

I just want to add, some of the people who are yelling and pissed off, less than 24 hours ago, Axl showing up wasn't good enough. He had to play.

I don't really see where this matters now, if it wasn't good enough before. hmm

I still think he should of turned up AND played. But the miserable cunt can't even just turn up. Hell he even refused the award. That's not even a compromise he's just done his best now to take a dump on the night and take the gloss of it for the others.

#765 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 734 weeks ago

Shame he can't he honored to be honoring his fans by accepting the award himself.

#766 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 734 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:

Hope everyone can now just realize this @gunsnroses reunion stuff just not happening & embrace what the members are doing now! All good!!

Eddie Trunk Via Twitter

Just because people wanted to see the original lineup get up together and accept the award doesn't necessarily mean you don't embrace the current lineup.

Dumb comment. Tho I'm not surprised with Trunk, he seems to smoke  Axls bat these days. That last hard hitting interview he did with him for example he really grilled him 10

#767 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 734 weeks ago

killingvector wrote:

That is a big assumption. Duff and Axl spoke. There is a great chance that Duff apologized for participating. Perhaps they were Slash driven suits. I really don't know b/c none of us were privy to the conversation.

I wonder if Duff really dropped Slash in the shit when he spoke with Axl. It doesnt appear that Slash and Duff are quite as close since Slash turned his back on VR and did his solo thing.

Maybe Duff blabbed a few truths about Slash or even deflected some of his own previous actions and blamed them on Slash? Just a thought.

#768 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 734 weeks ago

I hear what you are saying, but Axl has done just as much from what I can see and still does. He called him a cancer not too long ago. MSL even said in his phone calls with Beta a couple of years ago that she spent most of her time ranting about Slash. On the rare occasions Axl speaks he usually cant help but include snide comments about Slash amongst his bile.  He just can't seem to let go of the animosity. As Canter says, it can't be good for him mentally.

Slash is no saint and he may have a public persona that says he has put things behind him yet behind the scenes is still being a cock. If he is then he plays the game better than Axl. But I honestly think Slash has largely moved on, particuarly with his hatred and animosity Sadly I can't say the same for Axl.

#769 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 734 weeks ago

killingvector wrote:
Aussie wrote:

I think that what Slash is alleged to have done is probably quite minor in the overall scheme of things. Particularly against the backdrop of what the others including Axl have done in the past.

Yet Axl has held this grudge for so long and built up whatever Slash as done into something so significant, that he probably can't come out and say exactly what the reasons are now because everyone would laugh and say "is that it, is that why you've held a 20 year grudge for? How pathetic.

Suing for theft and fraud and, then, a court order to restore the original partnership minus Axl is relatively minor.

LOL.

Not to mention the revisionist history on how the band broke up (all blame on Axl's ego, no blame on Slash).

Please, now.

Let's flip your point of view on its head...

Yeah sure continually being late, not showing up even for some concerts, not showing up to write new songs with your band as they just sit around, causing riots, forcing the others to accept your mate Dizzy into the band and later Paul Huge. Spending money hand over fist on studios and workers who sit idle for months.  Taking the name and then leaving with it only offering the guys to join your new partnership as a paid employee. I'm pretty sure Axl has started legal action against the others too. Only talking thru the yes men he surrounded himself with etc etc I could go on forever.

As for the revisionist history, I have no doubt Slash has spun things and told lies on how some shit went down.  But you put all blame on Slash none on Axl.

So again I say against the backdrop of what Axl has done as well as the other members, I hazard a guess that what Slash has done is not much less, probably just on a par with the other guys.

#770 Re: Guns N' Roses » RRHoF Discussion (Izzy/Slash/Axl Press Statements) » 734 weeks ago

killingvector wrote:
Aussie wrote:

Thought these couple of posts on mygnr by Marc Canter summed things up quite well:

I knew from the start that it was going to be a problem with Axl in the same room with Slash. Thats why I said for me it would be fine if they didn't play just being in the same room was going to be good enough for me. This whole thing is very sad for me to watch. If Axl would just get some Counseling about his beef with Slash, it wouldn't fix all the problem between them, it would lesson the blow and maybe he would be able to live life a little better.

The biggest problem is when you hold that much anger for someone, it's stops you from living life and doing the things you like to do and should be doing. If you hold a ball under water it will take both of your hands to do it. The problem is now all your energy is being used up to hold the ball under the water, now you can't swim. Let the fuck go of the hate and swim away. This is not very healthy to harbor this shit for ever. At some point you die and fine out you wasted half of your life. Talk to someone that can help, so you can get this shit of your back and start to breath again.

I disagree.

Axl has moved on.

Duff and Slash have moved on. They don't need a reunion at this point. Loaded is doing great, Slash has his shiny new toy in Myles.

Adler is one guy who needs this beyond all measure. At the end of the day, his big mouth made the decision easy.

I don't believe he is implying they need a reunion. He is implying that Axl needs to let go of hs obsessive hatred for Slash. It looks to me like Slash and Duff are willing to let the past go, Axl however can't. He apparently can't even be in the same room as Slash even if they don't perform together. Yeah sure Axl has moved on 18

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