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#781 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 456 weeks ago
They won't show this on Fox News....so that means it never happened.
Fox News narrative will be about ANTIFA, which is insane to claim for a few reasons. 1) Many of the Nazis showed up with bats, shields, guns, helmets, riot gear and so on. They went there looking for trouble. 2) They're an anti-fascist group. I may not agree with everything they do, but the point remains we have a fraction of the right wing who ID themselves as Nazis/Fascists and another group who is against them. Fox is attacking the anti fascist group...just bonkers. 3) Fascists were pepper sprayed...boo hoo hoo. They're an enemy of our state. They should be pepper sprayed. They should be run out of town. On the other hand, one woman was murdered and 19 others injured by Nazis. Simply for protesting against racism. In America. In 2017.
Finally, we've heard for years how Muslims are creeping into this country and will eventually try to impose Sharia law on Americans. That they are a huge security/terrorist threat. While there are some valid points to be made about the dangers of Islam, they're not currently marching in the streets in riot gear, swords, waving ISIS flags and and heavily armed like Nazis are. However Nazis are marching in our streets, shouting Nazi slogans, waving Nazi flags, and giving Nazi salutes. These right wing domestic terrorists are here right now, speaking out against American values and murdering Americans in the street ISIS style.
#782 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 457 weeks ago
#783 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 457 weeks ago
#784 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 457 weeks ago
I do advocate violence against Nazis. Because they are Nazis. Sorry if that offends you. But you're not welcome to twist it around and say that I advocate left wing violence in general. I most certainly do not and never have. I am generally anti violence. Nazis are different however.
The rest, like everything else is false equivalency. Your initial post started with it, and your response to mine continues. That's why you're not worth talking to.
I don't own shit from yesterday, neither does any anti-racist protester. Nope. I know that's what Trump is peddling, that we're all part of the problem, but that's false. In fact the majority of Republicans in the House are not saying that. They're saying we need to stand up and condemn bigotry, Nazis and the white "supremacist" movement. Many are demanding Trump denounce these lunatics. But Trump hasn't and it doesn't appear that he will. There is a reason for that...something you've denied the entire time.
And it should be stated that 1) Right wing (Nazis and other losers) pose more of a threat to America than Muslim terrorists 2) Law enforcement agencies consider domestic terrorists (Nazis and other losers) the greatest threat we face. They don't say anything about left wing groups interestingly enough.
Ultimately though, Flagg's text vomit above is about one thing: Pulling the heat off the GOP for bringing these people in the fold. Don't fall for this shit. It's why he wants to argue about non sense and bring in false equivalency arguments to defend. These Nazis, KKK (remember they endorsed Trump) members, Neo Nazi dicks and other freaks are Trump's base. They showed up to his rallies, called people fags, cucks, attacked counter protesters, beat women, spit on veterans, sucked punched people and basically acted like wild animals. Trump never stopped this, he egged them on and volunteered to pay their defense bills for the violent acts they took part in. The entire time Republicans denied who these people were. The Alt Right they said, weren't a group of racists or bigots. The reality is that they are. They've metastasized, and the GOP admit that they're party has been taken over by rebranded Neo Nazis.
#785 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 457 weeks ago
North Koreans are starving while their country builds nuclear weapons, and some Americans feel oppressed because not everyone pretends Catelyn Jenner is a woman. That's how disconnected we are. Complete lack of focus from what's important. Trump is right. America is just living off the fat of the past.
That's rather simplistic. We have Americans starving. We have Americans with no home. We have Americans with no healthcare. All as we give money to the Pentagon that they don't need or want.
And the keyword is some Americans feel oppressed. Most people just want to figure out how to provide for their family, keep a roof over their heads and be good people. They aren't on Twitter all day arguing about transgenders or what stupid shit Trump said at 4 the previous morning.
#786 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 457 weeks ago
The Alt Right Chickens have come home to Roost
It is not the responsibility of the president of the United States to make specific statements every time a gang of KKK cretins marches up and down a town square. I fear that we’ll never be rid of such people, and in normal times our political leaders are so far removed from hateful movements that no reasonable person could believe they had the slightest sympathy for that kind of vicious bigotry. But today was different, the alt-right movement is different, and this president is different.
Today, a person died. A car rammed into a crowd of left-wing protesters, sending bodies flying across the street. I won’t embed the footage, but it looks horrible, and it’s hard to escape the conclusion that it was intentional. The car rammed the crowd at speed, backed up, and sped away. This horrific incident capped a day of street brawls after hundreds of alt-right activists, neo-Confederates, and outright Nazis marched together to express and defend their “blood and soil” white nationalism. It was a disgusting and reprehensible display.
It would be much easier to write off this small band of racists if they weren’t also part of a larger alt-right movement that was responsible for an unprecedented wave of online threats, intimidation, and harassment throughout the 2016 campaign season. Journalists, writers (including me and my family), and ordinary citizens were targeted with obscene and threatening images, racist messages, “doxing,” and sometimes promises of physical violence — all for the sin of criticizing Trump.
Violence then started to spill into the real world. A man wielding a sword hunted and killed a black man in New York City. A member of an “alt-Reich Nation” Facebook group killed another black man in Maryland. A man opened fire on two immigrants at a bar in Kansas, killing one. A white supremacist in Portland murdered two men on a train who intervened when he harassed a Muslim and her black friend. And that’s not an exclusive list. Meanwhile, the online hate campaigns roll on.
Incredibly, key elements of the Trump coalition, including Trump himself, gave the alt-right aid and comfort. Steve Bannon, the president’s chief strategist, proclaimed that his publication, Breitbart.com, was the “the platform for the alt-right,” Breitbart long protected, promoted, and published Milo Yiannopolous – the alt-right’s foremost “respectable” defender – and Trump himself retweeted alt-right accounts and launched into an explicitly racial attack against an American judge of Mexican descent, an attack that delighted his most racist supporters.
In other words, if there ever was a time in recent American political history for an American president to make a clear, unequivocal statement against the alt-right, it was today. Instead, we got a vague condemnation of “hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides.” This is unacceptable, especially given that Trump can be quite specific when he’s truly angry. Just ask the Khan family, Judge Curiel, James Comey, or any other person he considers a personal enemy. Even worse, members of the alt-right openly celebrated Trump’s statement, taking it as a not-so-veiled decision to stand against media calls to condemn their movement.
America is at a dangerous crossroads. I know full well that I could have supplemented my list of violent white supremacist acts with a list of vicious killings and riots from left-wing extremists – including the recent act of lone-wolf progressive terror directed at GOP members of the House and Senate. There is a bloodlust at the political extremes. Now is the time for moral clarity, specific condemnations of vile American movements – no matter how many MAGA hats its members wear – and for actions that back up those appropriately strong words. As things stand today, we face a darkening political future, potentially greater loss of life, and a degree of polarization that makes 2016 look like a time of national unity. Presidents aren’t all-powerful, but they can either help or hurt. Today, Trump’s words hurt the nation he leads.
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/45 … home-roost
#787 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 457 weeks ago
"You pretend that you are patriots but you are anything but a patriot," @GovernorVA says to white supremacists in #Charlottesville. pic.twitter.com/q6iTYuS2Su
— CBS News (@CBSNews) August 12, 2017
#788 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 457 weeks ago
This disturbing incident was captured by @RyanMKellyPhoto in #Charlottesville today on one of his last days on the job. #photojournalism pic.twitter.com/L2CtTHoVxd
— Bill McKenna (@Wm_McKenna) August 12, 2017
#789 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 457 weeks ago
#790 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 457 weeks ago
slcpunk wrote:So a group of Alt Right, Neo Nazis, White Nationalists and other creeps decided to march today in Virginia. As you may imagine, that didn't turn out too well. Hopefully some of these Nazis had their heads split open, that would be nice.
And at least one person is dead and several injured after someone drove a car into a crowd. Glad you like seeing people kill each other.
They drove into a crowd of anti racist protesters. So if I had to guess, it was a POS Nazi.
I do not enjoy violence, nor do I condone it. However Nazis who march down our streets should have their heads beaten with bats. Until their tiny little brains ooze into the sewers from which they came. Fuck Nazis. Fuck bigots. Fuck rednecks with confederate flags. Fuck 'em all.
David Duke was there and proudly said this is what Trump's election was all about.










