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#821 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 392 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:mitchejw wrote:But never the other way around right? Dems need to make all the concessions never republicans.
Were you saying this for the 6 years that the tea baggers were obstructing everything? Probably not.
Depends on what was being obstructed. I know you can't understand that, but that's not really my problem.
No i can’t understand that....because it’s hypocritical BS.
‘Depends on what’s being obstructed’ - are you kidding me? That’s wishy-washy inconsistent BS. So obstruct is ok sometimes but now you’re asking the newly elected Dems to work with Trump?
You’re a train wreck of inconsistency...but that’s not really my problem.
I just enjoy pointing it out.
The next time you do will be the first. It's hard to be inconsistent when I have my own beliefs and not what others tell me to believe. My beliefs are just that and will be my beliefs no matter how many times you want to cry otherwise.
And you wonder why nobody bothers with you any more...
#822 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 392 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:Haven't looked at the details but happy with the general results of the election. Either party in control is bad. Now those dems that said they'd work with Republicans need to do what they said they would do.
But never the other way around right? Dems need to make all the concessions never republicans.
Were you saying this for the 6 years that the tea baggers were obstructing everything? Probably not.
Depends on what was being obstructed. I know you can't understand that, but that's not really my problem.
#823 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 392 weeks ago
Haven't looked at the details but happy with the general results of the election. Either party in control is bad. Now those dems that said they'd work with Republicans need to do what they said they would do.
#824 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 392 weeks ago
If you don't like how things are going, vote tomorrow. If your person wins, congratulations. If your person loses, tough shit. This thread and the predecessor might be the two most retarded threads I've seen on the internet, though granted I don't go looking for retarded threads to participate in. This thread should have been nuked years ago.
#825 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
mitchejw wrote:Trump wants to end birth right citizenship now...really baiting his base. Where are all the constitutional scholars on here who believe and law and the word of the constitution.
Oh that's right...you only believe in it when it supports your agenda.
I wish we can some of the knuckle draggers back where they came from.
See, this is the kind of shit I like to discuss.
Trump is wrong to use an EO here, just as Obama was wrong on DACA. But there’s a key distinction here.
Congress already established who could legally reside and be employed in the US. Obama lacked the authority to change that and confer legal status to potentially millions of illegals.
The 14th amendment doesn’t guarantee unrestricted birth right citizenship. It’s certainly the common view, but no court has ever ruled that, and the authors of the amendment certainly didn’t think it would apply to the children of non-citizens.
So IF Trump actually signs this, it will immediately be stopped by a federal court. Not just the 9th circuit, but any court. Because the stakes if Trump is wrong are too great. So it’ll work it’s way through the system to SCOTUS, who will once and for all settle the debate.
I don’t think any rational person can believe the 14th amendment applies to Chinese women who fly here a day before their due date on a tourist visa to get an anchor baby. But SCOTUS, and SCOTUS only gets to decide that.
Anyone claiming the matter is settled or pointing to a law or verdict is a liar or grossly misinformed.
Agreed. People don't understand how the legal system works at all...Congress makes laws, the SC interprets the laws. Frankly the SC shouldn't be political like it is...that's where a lot of our problems come from. The laws shouldn't be political.
#826 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
Also trumps platform is nothing but hate....i won’t get behind it and i hate my president with a passion. I can’t wait til someone knocks his ass down.
Is mitch the only one that doesn't see the irony in this?
#827 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
buzzsaw wrote:YOUR numbers show an increase in Republican votes and a decrease in Democratic votes. Those are your numbers dude and they say exactly what I said.
No they don’t....outside of one state. There is no significant difference difference in voters who voted republican...the same assholes who voted for Romney voted for Trump. The minor differences from 2012 to 2016 could be easily explained by slow population growth and eligible voters in each state.
It’s no wonder you believe everything trump tells you...your analytical skills leave much to be desired.
Your definition of significant is way off. It doesn't take a lot when one side increases a little and the other side decreases a little and the state is close. Those "insignificant" numbers to you got Trump elected.
#828 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
YOUR numbers show an increase in Republican votes and a decrease in Democratic votes. Those are your numbers dude and they say exactly what I said.
#829 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
A simple "like usual you're right buzz" would have saved you a lot of typing.
#830 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 393 weeks ago
You guys created the situation that got Trump elected by (in addition to other things) activating the republican voter base by accusing them all of being any -ist you could come up with before the election and alienating half of your own base by rigging the nomination against Bernie. You did this. Not the racists. Not the sexists. Not the whatever other label you want to throw on people because you don't agree with them on every single subject. YOU GUYS DID THIS.
Start looking in the mirror, because not much is going to change until you do.
Thank you for proving my point mitch. As usual, your stupidity is a great asset. Look at the numbers again mitchy. Every state equal or more for Trump. Not huge numbers for sure, but it doesn't take huge numbers to make a difference when states are fairly close.
Now why don't you show the flipside. I haven't done the research since I don't care enough, but what were the democratic numbers? How many stayed home instead of voting for Hilary? I would have thought you'd have tried to totally shut me down and you'd have that information too, yet it's not here. So either you're too stupid to provide something that shows I could be wrong or the numbers show I am right. Which is it buddy?
