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#831 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 484 weeks ago

PaSnow wrote:

Trump is so bad he's gotten me to like Jeff Session & Rex Tillerson. Scaramucci had a bizarre interview on CNN where I now feel I'm siding with Priebus. This whole thing is nuts.

He is  definitely trying to get rid of Sessions and Priebus.

#832 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 485 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

Cliven bundy sentenced to 68 years...damn

Wasn't Bundy, but one of his buddies. Unfortunately.

#833 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 485 weeks ago

I also know the VA spends millions on boner pills for their vets as well. Let's not say this is about costs...

It's red meat for the evangelicals, a feather in the cap for Trump and another distraction method.

#834 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 485 weeks ago

heh heh...


Annual military spending on
Viagra: 41.6 million
Cialis: 22.8 million
Trans medical care estimated: 2.4-8.4 million


The military spends five times as much on Viagra as it would on transgender troops’ medical care

On Twitter this morning, President Trump announced a ban on transgender people serving in the military, citing “medical costs” as the primary driver of the decision.

“Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail,” the president wrote.

While Trump didn't offer any numbers to support this claim, a Defense Department-commissioned study published last year by the Rand Corp. provides exhaustive estimates of transgender servicemembers' potential medical costs.

Considering the prevalence of transgender servicemembers among the active duty military and the typical health-care costs for gender-transition-related medical treatment, the Rand study estimated that these treatments would cost the military between $2.4 million and $8.4 million annually.

The study didn't include estimates of these costs for reservists, because of their “highly limited military health care eligibility.” It also didn't include estimates for retirees or military family members, because many of those individuals may also have “limited eligibility” for care via military treatment facilities.

“The implication is that even in the most extreme scenario that we were able to identify … we expect only a 0.13-percent ($8.4 million out of $6.2 billion) increase in health care spending,” Rand's authors concluded.

By contrast, total military spending on erectile dysfunction medicines amounts to $84 million annually, according to an analysis by the Military Times — 10 times the cost of annual transition-related medical care for active duty transgender servicemembers.

The military spends $41.6 million annually on Viagra alone, according to the Military Times analysis — roughly five times the estimated spending on transition-related medical care for transgender troops.

Looked at another way, the upper estimate for annual transgender medical costs in the military amounts to less than a tenth of the price of a new F-35 fighter jet. Or a thousandth of 1 percent of the Defense Department's annual budget.

The cost of providing medical care to transgender servicemembers, in other words, is negligible, and hardly “tremendous,” as the president put it.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won … 4ed18f9b9b

#835 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 485 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
mitchejw wrote:

Let's no forget that he decreed all of this from twitter.

It's quite possible that this has absolutely no substance.

In addition, 2 republican senators have come out against the idea. Next, you'll see the the trumpeters turn on actual heros from their comfy couches.

A hilarious self own on Twitter today, just glorious.

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#836 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 485 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:

Let's no forget that he decreed all of this from twitter.

It's quite possible that this has absolutely no substance.

Twitter --> Pentagon

#838 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 485 weeks ago

Funny a guy like Trump, who used health deferments to get out of serving, wants to ban others who are eager to serve our country.

#840 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 485 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:
slcpunk wrote:

The majority get surgery through Medicaid? How would anybody know that? They are keeping track of private/public reassignment surgeries? Some national database sponsored by Breitbart? 16


Or maybe you could read for once instead of watching YouTube videos and being convinced of conspiracies.  Here's an article from the APA, saying that 65% of trans people earn less than 25k a year:

http://www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/pub … /lgbt.aspx

Who qualifies for medicaid/medicare?

But please, continue to affirm your ignorance and lack of general intelligence on nearly every issue. 

If you have other articles claiming trans people are well adjusted and high earners, I'd love to read it.  But the discussion is about Trans people in the military - something you have no experience or insight too.  But please, make jokes and lob insults.

The article states that 64% of Trans peeps report an income of less than 25k. That still doesn't mean the majority pay for their surgeries via Medicaid. You just said yourself that they have real loose definitions for how they define transgender. Somebody may ID as such, but doesn't mean they are going under the knife.

That article was written to educate people like you, but it seems like you just used it to draw your own conclusions. What a shocker.

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