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#843 Guns N Roses Articles » 1992 - Gowns N' Roses (People, October) » 897 weeks ago
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WHEN GUNS N' ROSES GUITARIST SAUL Hudson, 27, better known as Slash, wed 27-year-old actress-model Renée Suran in Marina Del Rey, Calif., on Oct. 10, it was by rock standards a downright conventional affair. The groom wore leather, the bride wore while (including fishnet tights), and "the ceremony was very romantic," says one guest, "like in the movies." Or at least in a darn touching rock video.
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#844 1994 » Bye Bye Love (People, July) » 897 weeks ago
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She's got eyes of the bluest skies as if they thought of rain/ I hate to look into those eyes and see an ounce of pain."
Guns N' Roses founder Axl Rose'”infamous for heavy metal screeds like "Back Off Bitch"'”is generally not known for his love songs. But the raucous rocker's 1988 hit, "Sweet Child O' Mine," was as tender as a power ballad can get. A No. 1 single, Rose's song was written for then girlfriend Erin Everly'”a waiflike 22-year-old whose father, Don, had been half of rock's singing Everly Brothers. In 1990, four years after they met, Axl and Erin were married. By Everly's account, however, the couple's duet had dissolved into screams and violent discord long before they made it to the altar. In an exclusive interview with PEOPLE done before the O.J. Simpson case focused the nation on domestic violence, Everly describes a pattern of abuse frighteningly similar to the Simpsons' relationship preceding Nicole Simpson's murder. Everly says that throughout her four years with Rose, she suffered regular beatings that left her bruised, bloodied and sometimes unconscious. "You never knew what would set him off," she says.
Like other alleged batterings, the final one, meted out in Rose's West Hollywood luxury condo in November 1990, ended as abruptly as it had begun, with an argument over her cleaning of his CD collection. But this time, Everly says, she did something she'd never done before. "I didn't think I could survive mentally any longer; I was dying inside," she recalls. "At the door I turned around and said, 'I want you to look at me, because you're never going to see me again.' And he never has."
Now, four years later, however, Everly, 28, is indeed hoping to see Rose, 32, at least one more time'”in court. In March she filed suit in Los Angeles, charging that he had subjected her to physical and emotional abuse. Everly claims that during his frequent, unpredictable rages, Rose brandished guns, smashed her belongings and yanked telephones from the wall. At one point, she alleges, he removed all the doors inside her apartment so that he could monitor her movements. "I was afraid when he came in, when he left, when he wasn't there," she says.
Rose refused to be interviewed about Everly's accusations, but in court papers he claims that the 5'6", 104-lb. Everly provoked him'”Rose is 5'9", 145 lbs.'”and that his actions were purely in self-defense. A friend, who agreed to speak for Rose anonymously, concedes that the couple "did have a combative relationship. But," she adds, "Erin portrays herself as the victim and him as the evil aggressor. From what I witnessed, she was the aggressor." Everly, in turn, denies striking Rose. "That was never my reaction, to hit somebody," she says. "I don't even spank my dogs."
Everly launched the suit after being subpoenaed in a court action by Rose's former girlfriend, model Stephanie Seymour. In that case, Rose and Seymour exchange similar charges of physical abuse (see box, page 52). Now waging legal battles on at least two fronts, Rose reportedly plans to take time off from Guns N' Roses, whose last album, The Spaghetti Incident, sold far less than its predecessors and whose fortunes appear to be fading.
Promising futures seemed to await both Axl Rose and Erin Everly when the two met at a party in L.A. in 1986. He was an unknown 24-year-old with a fledgling rock band. Everly, then a 19-year-old Los Angeles native who had moved to New York City at 16 to model for the Wilhelmina agency, quickly fell for the ambitious rocker and moved back to California lo be with him. "It was the first relationship I had had'”I felt like we were two people who didn't have much but who had found each other," says Everly of the state of mind both brought to the romance. "I was looking for someone who wanted to get married, have a bunch of children and a station wagon."
Neither she nor Rose had ever had a traditional family life. By his own account, Axl and his younger siblings, Stuart and Amy, had hellish childhoods. According to Axl, he was sexually abused at 2 by his father, William, and allegedly beaten by his strict fundamentalist Christian stepfather, Steve Bailey. Axl, who believes his biological father dead and is estranged from his stepfather, has also said that anger he felt toward his mother, Sharon, contributed to his admitted misogyny. A bright but troubled student who joined the chorus and track team, Rose dropped out of his Lafayette, Ind., high school in his junior year. By 1982, when he moved to L.A. with then girlfriend Gina Siler, 17, he had been arrested four times for minor offenses and placed in a court-ordered alcohol-abuse program.
According to Siler, now 28, Rose was alternately affectionate and abusive during their relationship, which ended three years after the move to L.A. "Tumultuous is putting it mildly," Siler says. "He could be kind and loving, and at other times he was violent and irrational."
As Everly would later be, Siler was moved by Rose's accounts of his early years. "Axl told me [that] when he was a baby, his real dad went insane, and his stepdad was oppressive," she says. "I think he's always had this 'life owes me' attitude."
Everly too had endured a rocky childhood. Beset by drug problems, her father suffered a breakdown in 1963, was later hospitalized and received electroshock treatments. In 1970 he split from second wife Venetia Stevenson, a former actress (1958's Darby's Rangers), with whom he had three children: Erin, sister Stacey, now a 31-year-old California artist and brother Eden, 25 and a musician in L.A. "I never had bad memories of him," says Erin, who was 7 when her parents divorced. "I had no memories."
When Don Everly, pleading poverty, balked at paying child support, Stevenson took work as a clothing designer. In 1974 she moved the family from an upscale Studio City neighborhood to a more modest rented home in L.A., and the children transferred from the exclusive Buckley private school to public schools. A slow learner who suffered from dyslexia, Erin enjoyed being home and playing with her dolls and baby brother and, as she got older, offering emotional support to her mother. "I always felt like I had to look after her," she says. "I'm a caretaker."
She was also a magnet for Rose. After they moved in together in 1986, she continued modeling to pay the rent on their Hollywood apartment. Nights were spent accompanying him to the seedy Sunset Strip bars where he and Guns N' Roses bandmates Saul "Slash" Hudson, boyhood friend Izzy Stradlin, Duff McKagan and Steven Adler (he and Stradlin left the band in the early 1990s) performed. "When you're in love, you want to be with the person every minute," she says. "My life was taking care of Axl."
And a high-maintenance task it was. Guns N' Roses hit big in 1987 with Appetite for Destruction'”the biggest-selling (17 million copies) debut album in history'”and Rose seemed ill-prepared to handle the pressure. He turned up late for shows and battled with police, security guards, fans and anyone who triggered his temper. Lawyers for ex-bandmate Adler claim their client saw Rose throw a woman down a flight of stairs in 1990 after she refused to have sex with him.
According to Everly, Rose was bringing his tantrums home early on. She can't recall the first time he hit her. "It's like an earthquake where after it's over you think, 'What was that?' " she says of beatings that often began over matters as trivial as stubbing his toe or being awakened by a ringing telephone. "There's so much anger in him. Maybe I was this easy person to take it out on."
As Rose's career took off, Everly's faltered. In 1987 she abruptly canceled one of her last modeling assignments, a lingerie shoot. "She told me [Rose] had dragged her from her apartment and that she had abrasions up and down her body," says her New York City modeling agent, Faith Kates. In the end, says Kates: "it was sad. She'd had this sparkle in her eye, and it was gone."
Like many domestic-violence victims, Everly protected the partner who she now says beat her. When her model friend Taryn Portman called the L.A. police after one violent episode in 1986, Erin told officers it was a false alarm. "I was really torn," Everly says. "Here was my best friend trying to protect me. But there was Axl [hiding behind the door]. My fear was bigger than you can imagine."
According to Everly, Rose had no compunction about abusing her in front of others. Her friend Heidi Rich-man, an independent TV producer, says she witnessed Rose hitting Erin at a crowded 1987 barbecue at a house in the Hollywood Hills. "He was beating her, pulling her hair," says Richman. "He was like a rabid dog.
Despite pleas from friends and her mother to leave Rose, Everly refused. "I always believed things would get better," she says. "And I felt sorry for him. I thought I could make [his early childhood suffering] all better."
On April 27,1990, says Everly, Rose, who by then had moved out of the couple's home and bought a luxury condo above Sunset Strip, showed up at her door unannounced at 4 a.m. As she tells it, he told her he had a gun in the car and that he would kill himself if she didn't marry him. On the long drive to Las Vegas, she says, he promised that he would never hit her again and never divorce her. Twenty-four hours later they look their vows at the Cupid Wedding Chapel. One month later, says Everly, Rose first threatened divorce. And two months after that, he beat her so badly she was hospitalized.
While Everly was in the hospital, he sparked a reconciliation by moving her belongings into his condo. Domestic bliss, if it ever materialized, was short-lived. By then, Everly says, she was forbidden to see her friends and Rose, who had become a wealthy man, refused to give her money or even a door key; she claims that he often locked her out, then gave her permission to return only when he felt like it. Says Everly: "I used to go into the bathroom to cry. I'd turn the water on so he couldn't hear me, because that would set him off too."
In September 1990, Everly learned that she was pregnant. "This was all I wanted," she says. "I thought it could have been a cure for Axl." If so, it didn't take: Everly says that Rose's elation quickly soured and that he threw her out of the condo and threatened to take the baby. When she miscarried in her third month, Everly had to sell her Jeep to cover medical costs. As Everly recuperated, Rose trashed the house in the Hollywood Hills they had been preparing to move into, causing $100,000 in damages.
Everly had finally had enough. In November of that year'”after suffering that last beating, she says'”she walked. "I'd lost everything," she says. "I had no more fight and no more compassion for the abuse he had gone through."
After the breakup (the marriage was annulled in January 1991), Rose continued to try to contact Everly for more than a year, she says, sending her flowers, letters and even caged birds. Everly, who received no financial settlement and camped with friends and family, sold her wedding rings for cash and in 1991 rented her own condo in the San Fernando Valley. "One day the phone rings," she says. " 'Hello, it's Axl.' I moved the next day."
In 1992 she briefly dated Donovan Leitch, son of '60s troubadour Donovan; she also began psychotherapy. Ironically, Rose too began therapy around the same time, admitting in interviews that he was manic-depressive. "I'm trying to channel my energy in more positive ways," he said in 1991, "but it doesn't always work."
Last year, Everly began seeing actor David Arquette, 22, brother of actresses Rosanna and Patricia. At first Everly was so skittish she'd flinch if Arquette moved suddenly. "I don't know how many times I've had to tell her, 'I'm not going to hit you,' " he says.
Although Arquette encouraged her "to stand up and talk about" her ordeal, it wasn't until Seymour's lawyers subpoenaed Everly to testify about her experiences with Rose that Everly began to feel she was a victim. "She [thought], 'It was my fault; he's not abusing Stephanie,' " recalls Taryn Portman. "So when [that] case became public, that did a lot of healing."
Rose's camp believes Everly is pressing the suit for monetary gain, but Erin, who lives in L.A. with support from family members, insists she merely wants to put the traumatic relationship with Rose behind her. And though Arquette, now her steady, contends that Everly still fears Rose, she asserts that she no longer feels helpless. "It's not a matter of winning or losing," she says of the suit, which her lawyer hopes will be heard within the year. "I would like to give [Rose] back this pain. It doesn't have to be my burden anymore."
Stephanie's Secret: Axl's No Rose
Last October, five months before ex-wife Erin Everly filed her civil suit against Axl Rose, Victoria's Secret model Stephanie Seymour accused the singer of beating her up after an ill-fated 1992 Christmas party.
Rose had fired the first shot by suing the supermodel in August 1993, claiming she had "kicked and grabbed" him during the party at the Malibu home they shared and that she refused to return more than $100,000 worth of jewelry he'd given her as gifts. Countersuing, Seymour claimed it was Rose who attacked her, giving her a black eye and bloody nose. Angry because she had held the party after he had wanted to cancel it, he had slapped and punched her and kicked her down a flight of stairs, said Seymour, 25. When other defensive measures failed, she admitted, she "may have even...grabbed his testicles."
Nevertheless, the couple, who had been dating since 1991 and living together for about three months, became engaged, Rose claims, the following Feb. 4, only to break up three weeks later when Rose accused her of infidelity. Subsequently engaged to publisher Peter Brant, 47, Seymour gave birth to Brant's son in December.
If Rose hoped to take the offensive by filing first, the gambit may have backfired. To support her case, Seymour's lawyers subpoenaed Everly, who, Seymour claimed in her countersuit, had also been "physically assaulted and battered" by Rose. As he had done in her case, said Seymour, Rose "justified physically injuring [Everly] by claiming that she physically attacked him."
#845 Guns N Roses Articles » 1987 - Guns N' Roses: Colt Heroes (Kerrang!, June) » 897 weeks ago
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"KNOW WHAT I want to do? Really want to do? Go over to Japan and pollute it. I'm not talking about drugs, I'm talking about teenage sex, bring over some crazy porn magazines and drop them from the tops of tall buildings. There's no beaver shots in Japan..."
Guns n' Roses, born in a bottle and spilled into the streets of Los Angeles. A cocktail of Aerosmith, the Pistols, early Stones, Ramones and the New York Dolls; the worm at the bottom's their own. The nearest thing to a street band in a city where there's nothing but boulevards and freeways and if you sit in the gutter long enough a mobile lavatory-brush truck will come along and suck you up to kingdom come.
"There's a picture of Lemmy in some magazine, opening a bottle of Jack Daniels. He's so cool! Lemmy's cool! Lemmy reminds me of someone who'd, like, crawl right out of someone's asshole and take a shower and then make it really big and have the last laugh..."
Guns n 'Roses, Lines n' Noses, Wine n' Poses, "The only real rock 'n' roll band to came out of LA in the last ten years" (Axel). "The sleaziest to come out of Smog Angeles since Crue's 'Too Fast For Love'" (Xavier R.). Delinquent, delicious, decadent, Excess All Areas rock. Guns n' Roses stalk through your every silk scarf fantasy and rub you raw like Piranhas in a jacuzzi.
"I watch MTV and it's hard not to throw shit at the TV set because it's so f**king boring. Even the bands around here in LA are the same way, the whole music industry. It's new to us, this business, and we meet these people and they say, 'do this, do that'. And we go, 'f**k it, f**k you! Because it's just not us. We do whatever we want to..."
WE PULL up in the parking lot by the Winnetka Animal Clinic: Rumbo Studios, home of Captain and Tennille. The band's already here, sitting in a back room all in a row like Hitchcock's birds, by a table layered with bottles and frozen food: Steven Adler, drums and Duff McKagan, bass, beachbum rhythm section with bleach-blond hair and easy smiles; Izzy Stradlin and Slash, guitars, Izzy looking like a rock 'n' roller, sharp and languid all at the same time, Slash a mean mop of hair, only the lips move, killer pout and faraway eyes. Axel, vocalist, salt-rubber into the wound of rock 'n' roll, joins in later.
In the other room, Mike Clink is leaning over a control-board and looking slightly anxious. Ron Nevison's engineer on several projects and veteran of bands like Triumph, UFO, Airplane, he's producing Guns n' Roses' debut Geffen album and follow-up to the delirious, indie EP Live - Like A Suicide, a greasy, lemon-squeezy slice of smirking, strutting vinyl. The album Appetite For Destruction has every indication of being a killer. When it's out (soon) they're coming over to play the Marquee (the first date will be June 19 with one other to follow).
"Everyone's from everywhere: Indiana, Ohio, Seattle. Slash was born in England somewhere" - Stoke-on-Trent has the honour - "and moved here when he was a little kid. Duff's from up north. Axel and I," says Izzy, "are from the Midwest." Indiana. A place I've been to twice and can't remember, a place whose jails they know only too well - the wrong drinks at the wrong time, in the wrong places. But LA's, well, where you end up.
"When you watch the news and you see what's going on everywhere else, it is f**king Paradise, this place. You can get away with murder here. I'm just waiting for this place to self-destruct and the record companies to drop off into the ocean and everything," says Slash, "will mean nothing."
LA, like Heaven, is a place where nothing much ever happens; LA, like Heaven, is a place where it helps if you're, dead. LA is a good place for record companies. Izzy, Axel, Duff, Steven and Slash came for the big deal; they've been in "lots" of bands, but this is the only one they'd go all the way for.
"Everybody's been through the wringer," says Duff, who came out uncreased. "You go through a lot of bands when you start playing at 15, and in the beginning you don't really know what you want to do. You just want to play. Eventually, you into each other and the chemistry is just right".
"And the first thing we did when we got together is we hit the road to Seattle." Izzy grins a wicked grin.
"The Treacherous journey," says Slash.
"The car we were driving busted down," says Izzy. "So we said, 'f**k it!' and grabbed our guitars and jumped out and hitched a ride."
"And we were dressed to the f**king hilt," says Slash, "on the highway, man, with our guitar cases!"
A truck-driver picked them up, dumped them off on the side of the road 20 hours north, "and then two ex-hippy girls from San Francisco picked us up - they passed us and then they remembered back in the hippy days when nobody would pick them up, so they came around and we piled in" and they fed them some "radical pot brownies" and "it was cool, we hadn't rehearsed that much, and we went out and played using the other band's equipment. And to me," says Izzy, "that was the whole spirit of it.
"And it just took off from there. There was just like a 'f**k it' attitude. Not 'f**k it, in a negative way, just 'f**k it, we're going to play, we're going to do what we're going to do'. After that, you get back to the city and it's like, 'This is a piece of cake."
"A lot of guys who might have been in the band at the time would have wimped out," says Steven, "gotten on the plane home before we were halfway there."
"No-one died, no-one fainted, we all survived," says Slash. "And we've been pushing ourselves that way ever since."
"AT THAT time - this is when Motley Crüe's first album came out and everyone was in leather and studs, Izzy and I," says Axel, "walked into the Roxy one of our first times and I remember Vince (Neil) and Nikki (Sixx) leaning over a rail trying to figure out who the f**k we were! It took three years to start getting accepted in LA."
Just what the town needed; another band with radical hair and a '70s album collection.
"I remember for two years standing at the Troubadour and people wouldn't talk to me; I didn't know what to say to them, so you just watched and learned for a long, long time."
They lived off girls and drugs and scams, "you drifted around," says Axel, you stayed in friends' garages, cars, stayed one step ahead of the sheriffs."
They lived with a woman who tried managing them and "destroyed her apartment. It was like five bags of garbage - all of us in one room and the girls coming over. There was eight people living there, and dog. It got really crazy, really crazy, It got," Axel laughs, "really rude. These two girls were like guy-crazy and bandcrazy and there was no way any guy in any band was going to be caught dead with either of them, especially," a dirty laugh, "us. So Slash would milk that for everything it was worth - free drinks, free food, everything without ever having to do anything. Which eventually caused big problems!"
I'd tell you but I can't afford the lawsuits!
They moved into a studio next: "No showers, no food, nothing," says Slash. "A very uncomfortable prison cell. But God, did we sound good in there! We're a really loud band and we don't compromise the volume for anything! We'd bash away with a couple of Marshalls in this tiny room, and it was cool because all the losers from Sunset and all the bands would come over and hang out there every night. We used to rehearse in there and sleep in there. It got hectic. But at least we didn't get fat and lazy.
"Basically, it's just down to a poverty thing, that's where that kind of 'f**k you' attitude comes from, because you're not showering, you're not getting food or nothing, you do what you have to survive."
That's how the buzz started. Getting it loud enough to be heard in the Ivegotnoidea Towers of the record biz took more legwork, having thousands of flyers made ("We still owe the flyer place tons of money") and walking and hitching from Hollywood to the Valley, shirtless with a staplegun and a bottle for company, desecrating trees and spreading the word.
"We just kept playing," says Izzy, "and we made so much noise in the city, there were so many things happening around us, that the labels started to come to us. They came to us! They would come over to the studio and come in the alley and see drunks - there was this drunk with a bottle of Thunderbird," vicious, "on top of his head - and next thing you know we're going to their office! We made them take us all out for dinner for like a week or two and we started eating good! We'd order all this food and drink and say, 'OK, talk!'"
"The buzz got out", says Slash "and we kept getting invited down to see these idiots. One label - I swear - we were talking to, I was saying, 'It kind of sounds like Steven Tyler'; and the chick said, 'Steven who?' And all of us just looked at each other and said, 'Can we have another one of those drinks?' And we started eating good and none of our clothes would fit us any more!"
Before, Guns n' Roses looked like any other LA flash merchants you care to name. When Izzy and Axel ran an ad in The Recycler to find Slash they asked for 'a Heavy Punk Metal Glam guitarist'. They wanted, says Axel, "someone who wore make-up and put their hair up. That was the first glam ad I think I ever saw. And then we quickly got rid of that but it stuck."
"We're a lot more down-to-earth now," says Slash, who looks positively seedy. "They still try and label us as a glam band but I don't give a shit because we're not."
"We don't want to associate ourselves with glam and the main reason," says Axel, "is because that's what Poison associates themselves with." They don't like Poison. "I've told those guys personally that they can lock me in a room with all of them and I'll be the only one who walks out! They used to come to our shows before they ever played a gig. Everybody copying them? Sorry I don't see it. Poison came out in an article saying they started glam - I don't know where they were in the '70s," Axel laughs. "The only reason I put my hair up is because Izzy had these pictures of Hanoi Rocks and they were cool, and because we hung out with this guy who studied Vogue magazine hairstyles and was really into doing hair..."
ARE GUNS n' Roses personal crusaders for the return of sleaze?
"No," laughs Axel. "That's just a by-product. I think a lot of other bands are really wimpy."
"I don't know what people expect from us," says Slash.
"We don't really care," says Izzy. "We never set out to do anything buy play."
"Metal stems from sexual frustration," murmurs Slash. "We come from an amazing background of repression, stifled childhoods..."
Slash, you said in an interview that the only two bands in Metal that are worthwhile are Metallica and WASP. Justify WASP.
"I can't!" The eyes narrow. "I never said that, I hate WASP! I might have said Megadeth maybe and I might have said Metallica but I didn't say WASP! They're f**king ugly, man! That's really in there? God, that's f**ked!"
What records do they all have in their collections, then?
"We've all got Never Mind The Bollocks and Aerosmith's Rocks and right now," says Axel, "we listen to Exile On Main Street a lot. The Ramones - back in '78 Izzy and I had all the tapes and learnt all the songs. Duff is a real big Johnny Thunders fanatic." They all like the Beastie Boys and Motorhead. As for Guns n Roses...
"We have pieces of everything in our band," says Axel, "and we try and find a way to bring it all out rather than limit ourselves into one frame. You don't see a lot of that any more - Queen used to do it, and Zeppelin, but nowadays people tend to stay in one vein.
"With our record right now - it's like there's a lot of barriers that need to be broken down because people have got used to what they're supposed to hear. A lot of bands - look, even Judas Priest did it, they decide, okay, we're going to try selling out and see if that works, they toned their music down and tried to appease somebody else besides themselves and it cost them. But the public is conditioned on what they're allowed to like, and if something's too far out of the norm, even if it's cool, they won't - we want people to realise man, just play whatever the f**k you want to play, not what someone else thinks you should play, so that's what we've done.
"I sing in about five or six different voices - that are all part of me, it's not contrived - and there's a ballad, there's one song that's kind of like Black Sabbath goes to Ireland, there's two guitar players that play very different from each other - one plays an '80s blues electric guitar and the other guy's completely into Andy McCoy and Keith Richards - and they've figured out a way to fit it together."
"I think it's going to kick ass," says Izzy, "listening to the playback. It's against the - mainstream grain. It's definitely a case of you'll either love it or hate it - which is good, as long as you notice it."
"You couldn't really hate us," says Slash, "because the band's real. Regardless of whether you like us or not, we're going to go on and still do what we do."
What they want us to do is:
"We want to tour, travel, continue the big Guns n' Roses adventure, And indulge ourselves. And f**k a lot!"
And while you're waiting for them to get here with their album, check out the EP. Rawer than a whore's thighs, and toxic as rock 'n' roll was always meant to be.
#846 Guns N Roses Articles » 1991 - Guns N' Riot (People, July) » 897 weeks ago
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GUNS N' ROSES' FIRST ALBUM WAS CALLED APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION'”but nobody had this in mind. During a July 2 rock show in Maryland Heights, Mo., lead singer Axl Rose became offended by local security guards, who he said ignored an unruly motorcycle gang. When he spotted one of the bikers with a video camera'”forbidden at his concerts'”he took matters into his own hands. Jumping off the stage, he landed on top of the camera-toting fan. Bodyguards had to hoist him back.
So far, it was common behavior for Guns N' Roses'”and the fans loved it. But then the hard-rock group stalked offstage and headed for their hotel, leaving 20,000 fans waiting for them to return. When roadies began packing up equipment, the audience went wild, pelting the stage with bottles, cans, rocks and garbage. Hundreds of seats in the brand-new amphitheater were yanked out. Speakers, huge video screens and sound equipment were trashed or stolen. Security guards tried to turn fire hoses on the mob, but the crowd seized the hoses and fired back. When 500 nightstick-wielding police arrived, they weren't exactly delicate. "Did we smack some people?" asks police Maj. Thomas O'Connor of Maryland Heights. "You're damn right we did."
Two hours later at least 60 people'”including more than a dozen police'”were treated for injuries. There were 16 arrests and more than $200,000 in property damage. Axl said the fault lay not with the stars but with an inexperienced security staff. The police blame Axl, although so far no charges have been filed. (However, last week at least two people injured in the melee filed assault charges against Rose, the band or the promoter.) Guns N' Roses plans to tour for two years, a very long trip indeed.
#847 Guns N Roses Articles » 1991 - Guns 'N' Roses Simon Witter, Sky » 897 weeks ago
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ONLY DAYS INTO Guns N' Roses' world tour and there was trouble. At a St Louis stadium Axl Rose jumped into the audience to snatch a camera from a fan, sparking off a riot that caused $200,000 worth of damage and injured more than 60 people.
It happened because Axl returned to the stage, slagged off the security staff (cameras were not permitted at the show) and stormed off stage. Although G N' R were 90 minutes into the concert, the set was by no means finished and the crowd erupted.
"I didn't plan on jumping off stage to grab a biker and his camera," Axl said a couple of days later. "I didn't plan on having security turn on me. The security guys knew exactly what was happening and they were doing everything they could to let that guy go - which fueled my fire to make sure that didn't happen."
The tussle is a typical G N' R story, where hype and facts merge into one and their reputation as the world's baddest rock and roll band gains more and more stature.
In early '89, as sales of their first album Appetite For Destruction and the G N' R Lies EP passed the 15 million mark, Guns N' Roses were telling the world to expect a new 37-track double album by September. It's only now, exactly two years late, that Use Your Illusion I and II are upon us - well, nearly. The first of the two albums should be released this September. In the meantime, while actually doing precious little, they have single-handedly resuscitated "rock 'n' roll" and become the most talked about band of the last decade.
Guns N' Roses' responsibility for rock's upswing has far less to do with the $125 million they generated in '88/'89 - though that must have made a lot of radio, retail and record executives happy - than with the havoc caused making it. Guns N' Roses lived the lifestyle to back up every posture they struck. As country rocker Steve Earle put it, "Guns N' Roses are what every band in LA pretends to be."
Guns N' Roses were serious trouble and could be relied upon to make a drama out of every crisis. Like LA's street gangs, they seemed to have no respect for their own lives, so you knew they couldn't respect anybody else's. Their triumph was to make rock 'n' roll look dangerous again - though how long they remain alive to enjoy that triumph remains to be seen.
At first glance it's hard to see how Guns N' Roses could have become the biggest rock band in the world. Physically none of them would merit a second look from all but the most star-struck American groupie, and in Axl Rose they've got a frontman whose body language is so cringingly unsexy it makes David Byrne look like Fred Astaire. If you're looking for the musical dexterity and daring of a Led Zeppelin you won't find it here - by Slash's own admission their sound is nothing new. And if you want lyrics that provide life's big answers, forget this bunch - they aren't even asking interesting questions.
The one thing Guns N' Roses indisputably have is attitude, an asset no amount of money can buy. They leave nobody in any doubt that they really are the destructive, thrill-seeking brain dead yobbos they come across as. They may be thick, apolitical, old-fashioned spoilt rock brats, but somehow that's still more endearing than the posturing corporate yes-men who make up most of the current rock scene.
Axl once said that "rock 'n' roll in general has just sucked a big fucking dick since the Pistols" and, although Gun N'Roses are retro retards compared to The Sex Pistols, it's fair to see them as America's equivalent. Despite its Neanderthal stupidity, Appetite For Destruction bristled with authentic rage, and they certainly share the Pistols' disgust for contemporary pop culture.
Guns N' Roses are the saviours of every kid who still wants their record collection to annoy their parents. But the tag "the world's most dangerous band" is a preposterous overstatement - what's so dangerous about a handful of overpaid, oversexed, overdrugged musicians?
All the rock musicians in the world who've got anything to say for themselves can easily be counted on the fingers of one hand. Here's a group who live by deed, not word - sacking each other onstage, smashing up everything from their instruments to their own homes, going out boar hunting while drunk, offending everybody they meet and trying to give new meaning to the word wasted.
For a band who look so naturally right - or wrong - together, Guns N' Roses had a long and fairly dull birth. Having gone to school together in Lafayette, Indiana, Axl contacted guitarist Izzy Stradin when he arrived in LA, and they played together in LA Guns. Slash and drummer Steve Adler went to school together in LA and played in a band called Road Crew, which Seattle bassist Duff McKagan joined after Slash advertised in an LA paper. Duff had previously been in 31 bands and, in general, they'd all been hanging around the LA rock scene for about 10 years when they got together in '85.
Only two people turned up to their first official LA gig. But the violent behaviour that accompanied their lurching, primeval sound soon made them hated by every club owner and rival band on the scene and their grassroots following swelled with every show until, after a year, Geffen Records snapped them up.
After signing to Geffen, Guns N' Roses pretended to be still wavering so that rival companies would continue to lunch them and, still in need of a manager, they tried to woo Aerosmith's Tim Collins to represent them. But after the show they made such a rumpus at his hotel that he had to hire a second room to get some peace. In the morning, when he discovered that Guns N' Roses had ordered $450 worth of drink and food on his bill, Collins decided not to manage them.
The group's appetite for heroin, cocaine and hard liquor emboldened them to ever wilder feats of excess and, in a city still living in Keith Richards' shadow, boosted their credibility. But it is also made them a pathetic sight. Pissing on your tour manager as he carries you, unconscious, to bed is hardly very big behaviour, and when Slash made free with the F-word at a televised awards ceremony. It wasn't a cunning re-run of the Pistols' notorious behaviour on TV, he was just too off his face to tame his usual vocabulary. Of course, in LA, the world capital of the rock 'n' roll cliché, being a junkie was still seen as glamorous, and club ads for the group's local shows routinely read, FRESH FROM DETOX, or ADDICTED: ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE.
Axl Rose was the perfect focus for a group who'd all been outcasts and troublemakers at school. He had not only been to jail 20 times before coming to LA, but also suffered from a mental disorder, manic depressive schizophrenia, which made him prone to violent mood swings between delirious bliss and aggressive depression. He took the drug Lithium to keep him "balanced", but it didn't work. While the others got drugged-up to escape boredom, Axl had real pain to ease.
Because he can go from being calm and caring to blind rage in minutes, even his closest friends are a bit scared of him. He gives the group their credible, dangerous edge and - unlike Prince - he doesn't have to avoid doing interviews to maintain his perfect rock star mystique. A Geffen A&R man recently commented that, "talking to Axl is currently about as easy as talking to the Dalai Lama", and even his day-to-day companions are never quite sure what's going on in Axl's mind.
Izzy remembers the young Axl as being far more troublesome. "If it wasn't for the band," he says, "I have to think what he might've done." And Axl's own thoughts about his temperament reveal just how extreme it is. "When I get stressed, I get violent and take it out on myself. I've pulled razor blades on myself but then realized that having a scar is more detrimental than not having a stereo. I'd rather kick my stereo in than cut my arm or go punch somebody in the face. Did you ever see that movie - I think it was Frances[about the actress institutionalized for her emotional outbursts]? I always wonder if, like, somebody's gonna slide the knife underneath my eye and give me the lobotomy. I think about that a lot."
Their first two singles, 'Welcome To The Jungle' and 'Sweet Child O' Mine', were enormous worldwide hits and, when sales of Appetite For Destruction began to orbit the planet, the media caught on and started obsessively reporting every increasingly rare fart of activity the group emitted - riots and near-riots at shows, drug-induced tantrums and punch-ups, weddings, divorces and mutual, public ultimatums. Opening for the Rolling Stones in LA, a newly detoxified Axl informed the rest of the band onstage that he was going to quit if they didn't kick their habits. All of them now say they are clean (for the moment), except for Steve Adler, whom they have reluctantly replaced with Cult drummer Matt Sorum because of the former's heroin addiction.
But the most undying controversy surrounding Guns N' Roses has been their song 'One In A Million', with its openly racist and homophobic lyrics. It crops up in every major interview, and got them kicked off their headlining slot at an AIDS benefit in New York (quite rightly). Axl has never satisfactorily explained the song - except as his reaction to things that happened to him when he was new in LA - and he hasn't been so un-rock 'n' roll as to apologise for it.
At the Stones' LA gig, after ranting about the stick he'd got for that song, Axl rushed up to one of Living Colour, the other opening act, and said: "Hey, you know I'm talking about a certain type of person when I use the word nigger. I don't see you guys as niggers at all." Guns N' Roses' tour manager then took the speechless Living Colour aside and said, "Don't mind Axl. He's from Indiana." That may sound a bit glib, but maybe it's the only way to take the song: as the irrelevant views of an ignorant twat.
So far G N' R have smashed their way to the top of the rock world, thanks to their uncanny synthesis of the contradictory elements of adolescence - sexual obsession paranoia, rage, self-doubt, insecurity and arrogance.
They've lived this lifestyle large enough for the whole world to see, without (amazingly) any of them dying. But can Use Your Illusion take them beyond that initial meteoric starburst of energy? The band promise it will display a previously unsuspected musical diversity, and with a lead singer whose favourite bands are Queen. The Sex Pistols and ELO (?!), that could mean anything.
One bizarre aspect of Guns N' Roses' career has been the way they've got so enormous without ever headlining a major tour. They've toured with all their peers, but always as the support. This year's Rock In Rio festival was their first major headlining show, and their forthcoming dates mark the first time they'll be playing a stage set designed and built for themselves.
When Guns N' Roses previewed their new show at a secret gig at LA's Pantages Theatre, they implemented an experimental and convoluted scheme to foil the LA ticket touts they know and despise. The tout scene, used to scoring over $100 a shout at local shows, must have been buzzing about the financial prospects of a G N' R show in the intimacy of a 2,700 seat theatre, but in the event they made nothing.
At 5 am on the morning of the show a queue was already forming at the theatre, thanks to leaked rumours. At noon the gig was officially announced on local radio, fans in the queue were issued with numbered yellow indestructible wristbands (hospital-style). They then had to queue for vouchers, which were given out at 2.30 pm to those with wristbands and photo ID cards. At 6.30pm tickets went on sale to people with wristbands, vouchers bearing the same number as the wristband and photo ID to validate the name on the voucher. Ticket-holders had to enter the auditorium immediately and there was no re-admittance. The wristband (and absence of touts with detachable arms) meant that every seat went to a genuine fan for $20, but this system is far from perfect. Some people would rather pay $100 than queue for 12 hours. And whatever next? Birth Certificate? Three character references? A G N'R trivia test?
This tour is set to last for almost two years, and at Guns N' Roses shows the crowd always returns the group's unfettered, aggressive energy. That means we can look forward to two years of lucrative chaos, disgraceful debauchery and wild stories.
#848 Re: The Sunset Strip » The BATMAN Thread » 897 weeks ago
A little taste of the Joker!
#849 Re: The Garden » French students murdered in 'frenzied attack' » 897 weeks ago
What a horrible way to go.
I can't imagine getting stabbed and then lying there in pain, waiting to die. D:
Unless it's like the movies and you just die instantly...:nervous:
#850 Re: Guns N' Roses » Song #2 (Unknown Title) » 897 weeks ago
Rex wrote:I agree that it sounds like he says "what I would do," but I can also hear him make the "ch" noise.
I have to agree there does appear to be a "ch" in there. "What I would choose" works just as well. I just wish I could hear the word that may or may not be Prostitute because that is so extremely important in this case. Ironic how the one word that makes such a big difference is the one that (the majority perhaps) can't make out with total certainty.
A question to you that do believe he is saying "prostitute"...can you REALLY hear him saying this or is it just because it fits in so well that you are assimilating?
Well I really thought I heard him say it, but when I listened to hear if he was saying what I would do, or why I would choose, I think I heard prosecute.
EDIT: Upon closer "inspection," I am once again sure it's prostitute. I can hear those two t's, but they're not really as emphasized as they are when you say it normally.