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#861 Re: The Garden » Ferndale man steps in front of train, dies in apparent suicide » 983 weeks ago

Wow, that's very sad.

I had two friends in my lifetime commit suicide.

#862 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » Slash vs. Bill Gates (Welcome To The Jungle....!) » 983 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:

Ok good. I'm glad to see I'm not alone on this.

I totally agree. 


I remember him saying in an interview that he sucked on GH because it's not the same as a real guitar.

#863 Re: The Sunset Strip » Next on the attention whore agenda: Britney as lawyer » 983 weeks ago

HAHA her represent herself.  14   What a pigfuck that will be.

She won't even show up, who is she kidding.   That will be comical.

#864 Re: The Sunset Strip » Spears gives up kids after standoff » 983 weeks ago

Holy Shit, he's a perv and isn't licensed.

Man he is lucky for Oprah, if it wasn't for her, he'd never be where he is now.   I can't even believe if she knew this, she'd promote him like she did on her show and got him is own tv show.

#865 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » VR 2008 Tour » 983 weeks ago

This is good news.  Things don't look so bleak for VR as we were thinking.

#866 Re: The Garden » Man kills, then cooks girlfriend » 983 weeks ago

Neemo wrote:

i ate his liver with farva beans 16

people are fucked up....and what was his mother doing while this was going on...and why in hell would he call the cops and say he killed her and was eating her?  he was obviously diranged 10

"oh hey why don't y'all come over and eat this bitch with me? i got more than enough to go around"

can you imagine the stink though? boiled meat is gross....boiled human fless would prolly be unbearable his mom will never get the smell outta the curtains :sick:

I should not be laughing at this.  14

This man is seriously insane, he probably did watch Silence of The Lambs a few times, maybe even read up on Dahmer.   Even if he didn't eat her, he sure as hell made sure the police would get a gruesome crime scene.

#868 Re: The Garden » Wrongly accused at 17, Tankleff starts over at 36 » 983 weeks ago

Totally agreed.   I don't care if the cops have to beat me, then I'd sue but I would NEVER confess no matter how long I am in there.   BUT the only thing is when kids are in there, he was 17, the west memphis 3 were even younger, they can get easily influenced to confess after being in there so many hours and if the cops are threatening them in any way.

#869 The Garden » Wrongly accused at 17, Tankleff starts over at 36 » 983 weeks ago

DoubleTalkingJive
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GARDEN CITY, New York (AP) -- Moments before a judge sentenced him to 50 years to life in prison, Martin Tankleff uttered the words he has repeated for almost two decades: "I stand before you innocent of this charge. I loved my parents. I did not kill them."


Martin Tankleff smiles at a spectator at the bail hearing that would lead to his freedom.

His appeal fell on deaf ears that day in October 1990, as it did many more times during the 17 years he languished in prison.

Then a panel of judges overturned Tankleff's murder conviction last month, citing possible evidence that a business associate might have had a role in Tankleff's parents' deaths.

On Wednesday, prosecutors said they would not retry Tankleff, making him a free man.

At a Manhattan news conference Thursday, Tankleff, now 36, thanked his legal team and relatives who stood by him. He spoke about getting a college education and perhaps attending law school.

"I have a lot to do," he said. "Every day I got up in prison, I knew I wasn't alone in my fight. I had my aunts, my uncles, my cousins, and they're all still there."

His exoneration ended an extraordinary legal odyssey that included a coerced confession, a drawn-out appeal bankrolled by a team of high-powered lawyers who took the case pro bono and conspiracy theories about the identity of the real killers.


Seymour Tankleff and his wife, Arlene, were found slain in their waterfront home in Belle Terre, a well-to-do neighborhood on Long Island, on September 7, 1988, the morning Martin was to begin his senior year of high school. Arlene Tankleff was found bludgeoned in her bedroom; Seymour was stabbed in his study and died about a month later.

Detectives questioned the teenager at the home after he called 911 to report the attack. Later, they took him to police headquarters, where they employed an interrogation tactic in which they falsely told him his father had awakened from a coma and named him as the killer.

Tankleff wondered aloud if he might have "blacked out" and committed the crimes, adding, "It's starting to come to me." The motive, he told police, was anger over a variety of slights, including being made to drive a "crummy old Lincoln." Tankleff almost immediately recanted the confession, refusing to sign what the officers had written.

From the day of his arrest through his trial -- one of the nation's first televised on Court TV -- Tankleff pointed to a business partner of his father who ran a string of bagel shops. He claimed the businessman, Jerry Steuerman, owed his father thousands and enlisted street thugs to commit the murders to escape his debt.

Steuerman denied the allegations and insisted he was not involved. Authorities never gave serious consideration to Steuerman as a suspect, despite his own bizarre behavior: Just days after the Tankleff killings, he faked his own suicide and fled to California in a disguise.

Steuerman, who was the last person to leave the Tankleff home, at about 3 a.m. on the day of the killings after an all-night poker game, claimed his erratic behavior was the result of stress.

Tankleff's defense team filed numerous appeals to no avail; in 2000, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear his argument that the confession was tainted.

Finally, in 2003, his attorneys were granted a new hearing in Suffolk County, claiming they had a witness who would say he drove two men to and from the Tankleff house on the night of the slayings, and that one of them was later seen burning his clothes.

But that witness never testified, citing his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination. Other witnesses testified that they heard one of the men allegedly in the car that night, Joey "Guns" Creedon, confess he was involved.

Creedon, a career criminal who testified at the hearing that he had committed rape and assaults, has denied involvement in the killings.

Tankleff claimed he slept through the carnage.

In 2006, a Suffolk County judge rejected Tankleff's appeal, claiming the bulk of the testimony was unreliable and referring to the witnesses as a "cavalcade of nefarious characters."

His attorneys then went to the Appellate Division of the State Supreme Court, which ruled last month it was "probable" that a new jury would render a different verdict.

The case was sent back to Suffolk County, where District Attorney Thomas Spota decided this week that a second trial would be difficult at best.

Spota said he would ask Gov. Eliot Spitzer to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Tankleff's claims that Steuerman or others were involved.

As for Tankleff, when asked what he has enjoyed most about his newfound freedom, he responded: "Waking up as a free man, having a cup of coffee and watching the sun rise." E-mail to a friend


http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/04/tan … index.html


I watched alot of docs on this case, I am glad to see he has finally been let out.   There are times where the police interrogate so badly that they do get false confessions.

#870 Re: The Sunset Strip » Spears gives up kids after standoff » 983 weeks ago

Looks like Phil wasn't being so truthful

MZ has learned Dr. Phil's visit with Britney Spears was not exactly as advertised.

People on the 7th floor at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center say the doctor arrived about 7:30 AM Saturday. We're told Britney did not invite him in; she didn't even know he was coming. Sources say it was Brit's parents who told Dr. Phil to go to the hospital. When he walked into her room, we're told, a blindsided Britney walked out -- and eventually came back.

Sources say Phil tried speaking with Spears for about 15 minutes -- not an hour as Dr. Phil's press release states -- but she wanted none of it. We're told Phil was doing almost all the talking. As for walking with her to the car on her way out -- again, as his release states -- we're told if he was walking behind her, that's news to her. She absolutely was not accompanied by him.

Sources say Dr. Phil somehow convinced Brit's mom and dad to be on his show, which will tape Monday and air Tuesday (it was just moved up a day), but as one person put it, "Based on the interaction between Dr. Phil and Britney this morning, it'll be a cold day in hell before Britney goes on his show." We're told she absolutely will not appear on the program.

Sources say Dr. Phil wants to do a television intervention, something that isn't sitting well with some of the people who have known for a while that Britney has a very serious mental condition -- likely a bipolar disorder that is now in the red zone.

TMZ contacted Cedars to find out why the hospital let a television doctor on a floor that has such fragile patients, particularly since Britney had no idea he was coming. It's especially troublesome that Cedars let Dr. Phil go uninvited to Britney's room, since she had already been discharged and presumably had a right to know if someone wanted to visit. A Cedars rep made it short and sweet, telling us, "No comment."

A rep from the "Dr. Phil" show had no comment as well, other than "Dr. Phil met with Ms. Spears at family members' invitation."

http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/06/brit-blin … curiously/

This is what kills me, if this really was at a family members request, it's her mother or her parents still trying to keep her in the spot light by calling Dr. Phil when they could have called a private psychologist.

Unbelievable and I believe that she didn't want anything to do with it, that's her pattern all along as far as anyone trying to help her anyway.

Edit*  It was her dad who called Dr. Phil.   Unbelievable.

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