You are not logged in. Please register or login.
- Topics: Active | Unanswered
#881 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best Album of the 80s Elimination- Round 4 » 864 weeks ago
Van Halen 1984. Good album but meh.
Im voting it too
#882 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best Album of the 80s Elimination- Round 3 » 864 weeks ago
For the record Stuart Copeland is one of the best drummers of all time
#883 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best Album of the 80s Elimination- Round 3 » 864 weeks ago
Stepvhen wrote:AtariLegend wrote:Metallica have sold more albums than both of them combined by the way.
Def leppard have sold more than Metallica. You don't hear me claiming that they are they are more influential than Metallica.
I agree with your first post, as for the second....
Metallica have sold approximately 35 million more than Def Leppard.
... I did not know that!!! That is impressive!
#884 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best Album of the 80s Elimination- Round 3 » 864 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:Outside of rock, Metallica influenced no one. The Police & Beastie Boys influenced multiple genres.
Metallica have sold more albums than both of them combined by the way.
Def leppard have sold more than Metallica. You don't hear me claiming that they are they are more influential than Metallica.
#885 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best Album of the 80s Elimination- Round 3 » 864 weeks ago
If any of you guys are in your early twenties or younger and went to a school or college that had a large section of "The Police" fans, then so be it.
...But I honestly think it's be easier to go into town and find someone wearing a "Ride The Lightning" or "Master Of Puppets" T-shirt, than it would a "Synchronicity" T-shirt.
I agree with that. Im 21 and I would see a lot more Metallica fans around, but to be honest I think its all marketing. Metallica are marketed to those in their mid to late teens. The long haired types, who consider themselves outside the mainstream, deep types, who are not influenced by social trends...(excluding the social trends that cause them to wear colourful socks , get facial piercing and wear Ride the Lightening t-shirts- Im not trying to be negative here,teenage years are awkward and people like to identify themselves with different groups that seem to be going through the same experiences as them. We all fall into different social groups no matter how individual and unique we think we are.)
Anyway, I think that just because a band has a larger following than another does not go to show that they are better.
#886 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best Album of the 80s Elimination- Round 3 » 864 weeks ago
Axlin08 wrote:AtariLegend wrote:Who cares?
...And anyway, speaking from someone from a generation after your own, the cultural importance of those Metallica albums on the list to the last one and the next is alot greater than that of the Beastie Boys, Motley Crue and The Police.
Outside of little metalhead fanboy worlds... no it's not.
The Police & Beastie Boys were FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR more influential than Metallica.
Crue... were a band of their time. AOR metal. Nothing more.
The Black album, and maybe to an extent Load & Reload (all 90's albums) were the big influence on this generation's rock artists. I don't hear anything with a thrash flair in today's radio hits, at all. I do hear Beastie & Police influences all over the place. As for Metallica, I do hear the influence... all over the place. But I hear the 90's material influencing... not the 80's.
And as for 'who cares'. If you want to believe Ride the Lightning (which I nominated mind you) is the best album of the entire 1980s, ding ding for you. Pass that bong while you're at it.
When did we ever say Ride The Lightning was the best album? And what are you talking about! Many artists cite Metallica as an influence and the albums they mention are usually Kill Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppers and ...And Justice For All. Any rock artist today never cites Load and Reload as an influence and some might mention the black album. Also I resent being called a "little metal fanboy". Ride The Lightning in my opinion was a landmark album and a quantum leap above other thrash metal albums coming out at the time. Songs like Call of Ktulu and Fade To Black are excellent examples of Metallica writing ability and in terms of quality are leaps and bounds above stuff like the Beastie Boys and the police.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But when someone states that Metallica made better albums than the Police, from that point on, their opinion instantly becomes worth its own weight in dog shit.
It should be dually noted that this is a one way system. One never can recover a modicum of worth in said opinion after such an outrageously flawed comment.
:thumbup:
#887 Re: Guns N' Roses » So where does GN'R stand right now and what is the current news? » 864 weeks ago
Maybe frank stopped drinking?
#888 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best Album of the 80s Elimination- Round 3 » 864 weeks ago
1984 Most Over-rated and derivative piece of shit ever! How that album eclipsed Pyromania I will never know. In my opinion Pyromania set the template for an 80s rock album. Certain bands then went and "glamed up" the music and presentation. Before you knew it even the guys who had laid the foundations had to "glam up" themselves just yo compete in the MTV video stakes....sickening. I completely forgive Def Leppard for their Fashion blunders and misgivings of their Image in the 80s.
Because:
1.They created some world class albums in that decade.
2. They quickly went back to their old Image from the Pyromania, High and Dry days after 1991. Most bands of their ilk were donning grungey torn jeans and flannel shirts in an attempt to fit in with the new seen (see Bon jovi circa These Days album in 1994).
[rant]
Image-wise Leppard went back to the way they were before all the Glam stuff took off. Musically they moved forward to release Slang, one of the most underrated albums of the 90s. Leppard fans didn't like it because it was such a departure from their last few albums. Mainstream rock (which was in the throws of grunge) didn't like it because Def Leppard had been the Archetypical type band that they were replacing in the music scene and they never gave the album a second thought, because at that point Leppard just wasn't trendy enough. They had less comercial appeal the their anti-commercialist grunge contemporaries.
I started to listen to Def Leppard when Slang came out . Slang was my first Leppard album so I didn't have the prejudices that one would no doubt have developed had I been a fan of their previous 2 proper albums. It is in my opinion their best album and an under rated gem that fell by the wayside due to the musical climate in shich it was released. Ironically I think that if Pearl Jam had put out Slang it would be lauded to this day as a masterpiece. The fact that it had the Def Leppard label on the cover meant that grunge fans wouldn't touch it; as I said earlier Leppard fans were too shocked at such a huge departure from their now established sound.
[/rant over]
#889 Re: The Sunset Strip » And the winner is........... » 864 weeks ago
What about definitely maybe?
#890 Re: The Sunset Strip » And the winner is........... » 864 weeks ago
I'm sure it's been said but any album that has Get In The Ring, Shotgun Blues and My World on it does not deserve to win best album of the 90s.
Shotgun blues?
Love every second of it always have
