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#81 Re: Guns N' Roses » What Steven brought to GNR » 131 weeks ago
Yeah...and then there's the crazy example of Pink Floyd where the bass player, singer, and songwriter leaves and the band moves forward selling out stadiums left and right while the guy who left couldn't even sell out clubs.
Maybe Liam should've kept Oasis going... although the brother thing probably made that a deal breaker.
The real interesting thing is gonna happen when some of those aging rock bands who are absolutely financially ruthless run up against the issue of mortality.
For example the Rolling Stones have powered through the departures and deaths of the bassist, second guitarists and the drummer, but at some point Keef will shuffle off this mortal coil. And at that point, Mick's head for business runs headlong into the opinions of the general public – the irresistible force of Mick asserting that "I can replace anyone and it's still the Rolling Stones" collides with the immovable object of the public going, "fuck you, you need both Mick and Keef there."
Basically the same thing that happened with Axl in the 90s.
#82 Re: Guns N' Roses » What Steven brought to GNR » 131 weeks ago
As I've said elsewhere, bands normally have two iconic members who have to be there for the casual audience and wider public to accept them as legitimate. Normally that's the singer and lead guitarist. You can get away with subbing out the bass player and drummer in most cases (exceptions include RHCP and The Smashing Pumpkins, where the bassist and drummer are arguably more iconic than the lead guitarist).
So Oasis can cheerfully change every single band member apart from Liam and Noel, but the instant Noel split, Liam had to rename the band Beady Eye – even though it was the exact same band! Axl subs in Slash and Duff for the lead guitar and bass slots in pretty much the same line-up he'd been touring since 2006, and it's suddenly "real" GN'R (and I'd argue he could've got away with just Slash). Queen gets enormous stick for touring with Adam Lambert, but if Roger Taylor had dropped dead in 1991 and Brian and Freddie had carried on as Queen, no-one would've batted an eyelid.
#83 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 131 weeks ago
Axl said GNR was a rock n roll band, as opposed to Maiden. I always thought what he meant was that GNR wrote more personal lyrics as opposed to the more fantasy/historical inclined Maiden.
The basic difference between rock n' roll bands and metal bands is that rock n' roll is sexy. Either the songs are about sex, or they have a groove to them. Solos are looser, more improvised, etc.
Metal songs are typically more abstract and distanced; they're either written around very technical, structured exercises (think Bach), while the lyrics rarely touch on sex or love, they're typically about internal angst, rage or whatever, or they're (in the case of Iron Maiden) about historical events (Alexander the Great is basically a history lesson with guitar solos).
It's why I've always thought that pushing GN'R out to tour with Iron Maiden or Metallica was a terrible idea; the bands are fundamentally different genres and the fanbases aren't really compatible (albeit there is some crossover).
Probably the closest a GN'R member has come to doing a metal song is Slash's Anastasia, with its very formal structure.
#84 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 131 weeks ago
None of that world even remains anymore.
This is what really brings him down several notches in my book. He used to be #1 on all my lists in my youth...now he's lucky if he can crack the top 10.
He didn't have anything to say about the massive cultural shift of the 21st century. That just blows my mind. Like you said, anything "new" is from a time capsule when he was dealing with Slash and Steph shit and couldn't get over the implosion of GNR.
This is the biggest issue IMO. Axl is a really good songwriter, he's an astute observer of the world and its prevailing political, social and cultural trends… and he has had nothing to say lyrically since the early '00s. To take a random example: when he was ranting about Trump on Twitter, why wasn't he channeling that into a song? Why isn't he writing about the state of the world now, instead of the state of his relationships in 2001?
#85 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 132 weeks ago
Radio Rock (Italian site who first broke the story of Perhaps being delayed a week, according to them given from an internal source) says The General will not will be released digitally either for purchase or streaming:
What the fuck. Why would they do that? It's leaving money on the table. I don't have a vinyl player, so you better believe I'm going to be downloading a high-quality rip of it.
#86 Re: Guns N' Roses » The General confirmed next » 132 weeks ago
Wagszilla wrote:And while "Prostitute" was a little less fire than I would've wanted, I love that track. It's 100% the direction they should've ran with, unfortunately we only got scraps of what could've been.
I've been listening to the locker leaks and that song I've gained a better appreciation for. I just love the "soundscape" aspect of it. It's a deep cut and not really accesible to casuals.
I adore the "weeee-oooo" synths in the second verse. Not sure what you'd call them, properly.
#87 Re: Guns N' Roses » What song do you want to hear most? » 132 weeks ago
elevendayempire wrote:TheSundanceKid wrote:Yeah I want to hear that in full!
Yeah, I'd love to hear it. Even if it's just an instrumental, you could layer the vocals from… was it Rock Band or Guitar Hero? I'm sure there was an isolated vocal track for Jungle.
Better off using live vocals. Here is a clip of jungle with 2007 vocals on i just did https://www.sendspace.com/file/661ho2
It takes some work to timestretch parts to get it to work so the whole track would take a while, sounds ok to me though
That's neat. Could you chuck over the full audio of the instrumental?
#88 Re: Guns N' Roses » What song do you want to hear most? » 132 weeks ago
elevendayempire wrote:Frozeninfernot800 wrote:I honestly just want to hear nightrain 2001 rerecord... The wttj leak was ace.
Or realdoll.
Wait, the re-recorded WTTJ leaked? When did this happen?
Yeah I want to hear that in full!
Yeah, I'd love to hear it. Even if it's just an instrumental, you could layer the vocals from… was it Rock Band or Guitar Hero? I'm sure there was an isolated vocal track for Jungle.
#89 Re: Guns N' Roses » What song do you want to hear most? » 132 weeks ago
I honestly just want to hear nightrain 2001 rerecord... The wttj leak was ace.
Or realdoll.
Wait, the re-recorded WTTJ leaked? When did this happen?
#90 Re: Guns N' Roses » Atlas Shrugged (2023 ) - Rumour » 133 weeks ago
I have reason to doubt the band will follow through and stick to plans.
Why? I mean, what reason have they given you to doubt them? They've just released Perhaps with a major promo push including a video.
