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#81 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 41 weeks ago
Per @zombux
"Unknown studio recording by Duff and Izzy - around April 1995 *MISSING* "10 pieces" including Down By The Ocean or Down By The Sea, Machine Gun (at least 3 takes) and Tooth Puller (the latter two dated April 18 1995) *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE
occasional studio rehearsals around July-August 1995 (Duff and Matt Sorum mostly during days, while Axl was there in the nights)
Slash's home studio - (since Aug to "late fall 1995" - Slash and Duff tried sessions together with Paul Huge - "Slash musically involved for 2 week initial period")
("The Shadow Company" - parallel studio lineup - Axl, Paul Huge, Dizzy, since Oct 94 to early Feb 95 also Sid Riggs and Krys Baratto, to about Aug 96) The Complex Studio, LA (?) sessions - for example "the folky nonsense" (Jun 96), or Shaq jamming (unclear if Feb 96 or April 1997 but 97 seems way off
Slash returned for work with GNR in July 96 - Unknown sessions at The Complex ("The Compound") - around July to October 1996 (Slash, Duff, Axl, Dizzy, Matt Sorum, Paul Huge - "the next Jackie Chan movie") early sketch of Fall To Pieces *MISSING* [DOES NOT CIRCULATE]
Slash left GNR for good before October 30th 1996"
Duff left in August of 1997.
My take
Jackie Chan aka Hard School
Down By The Ocean
Machine Gun
Tooth Puller
Are from that era
Could Curly Shuffle also be from that era ?
I also question if Oklahoma/Berlin is from that era.
Here's why
According to Chinese Whisperers
1995
"[Oklahoma] was inspired by a court date with ex-wife Erin Everly. 'I was sitting in my litigation with my ex-wife, and it was the day after the bombing, [April 20th, 1995]' Rose remembers with a wince. 'We had a break, and I'm sitting with my attorneys with a sort of smile on my face, more like a nervous thing - it was like, 'Forgive me, people, I'm having trouble taking this seriously.' It's just ironic that we're sitting there and this person is spewing all kinds of things and 168 people just got killed. And this person I'm sitting there with, she don't care. Obliterating me is their goal.'" (Axl, Rolling Stone, 2000)
1998
"As the far as the songs go: 'Oklahoma' was pretty much written by the time they got to the studio. Axl wrote that with inspiration from the Oklahoma City bombing (more as a tribute to those who died, if I'm not mistaken). [...] (Dave Dominguez, Sp1at, 02/07/05)
#82 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 41 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:Shacklermyrye wrote:Threw this together a few months back on Dragon, just a theory on why it may be called that and why it's likely real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnQJjbYi5QU&t=2s
Unrelated but I mention Canoga park in this video & I actually meant Central Park. I later looked into LastFM and found anyone can name a song whatever they want so i wouldn't put any stock in the Dragons Kiss title, but Dragon however is probably real.
Very well put together video and interesting. I wasn't expecting Captain and Teneal showing up in it. I'm going to share this and thank you.
I noticed you brought the Curly Shuffle DAT in Iron Mountain up over at badapples. The engineer was Critter (Chris) Snyder and the assistant engineer was Jer Blair (Jeremy Blair). Both worked together on Obsolete by Fear Factory the year before this In 98 (when Dave Dominguez was at Rumbo working with Guns) I believe they turned up after he left the project. As far as the name goes I'm sure its just a place holder but there is a song with that name by Jump 'n the Saddle Band as tribute to The Three Stooges, it's such an oddly weird name that i kind of suspect it comes from that.
The mix from The Village comes from March 2000 & will be way more complete than this DAT in that video as that is a 24 track SLAVE. There would have been 24 tracks on the Master as well but Drums (multiple mics) Bass ect would have pushed it over 24 tracks so engineers would link a second 24-track machine to the first one. That DAT in the video is from the second machine and likely contains guitar solo's and overdubs along with whatever electronic synths/ keys ect were added at the time (if any). I believe they used Neve consoles at Rumbo & definitely did at the Village.
Yeah i heard the other curly shuffle with a bunch of three stooges clips in the song.
The other information is interesting because it shows it was a early song and the majority of those were completed.
I will share your post in the thread at badapplesforum, thank you for the information and insight.
#83 Re: Guns N' Roses » Only Big Guns left » 41 weeks ago
We all fucking suck. 25+ years in now. We are all fucking losers.
#84 Re: Guns N' Roses » Only Big Guns left » 41 weeks ago
15239123111 wrote:Axl S wrote:Can you please stop with the lists. Please.
You just lurk on forums and chat rooms with alts and make these lists about what you read and half the time it isn’t even correct.
I'm not the list troll. This info came from an american "Big B" source. Please, I hope you don't bother this information. Thank you.
Your “source” Brasky is posting all this info on GnFnR and in the Discord. You’re also taking what he says and filling in any gaps with guesses and are spreading false information. You aren’t some insider and you don’t know anything.
All you do is shit up messageboards and chat rooms with your endless lists.
You type exactly like the list troll, even down to the same kind of grammar and spelling mistakes, because you are the same person.
wtf were you talking about i had no communication with that poster you quoted.
Yeah another shit bump in a thread but would love to know wtf Axl S is talking about here.
#85 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 42 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:Hey guys i got a thread over at badapplesforum trying to make a definitive list of unreleased cd era songs.
Not trying to do a shit thread bump nor offend my friends James or Bls, just want to get as much information and knowledge of the topic in one place.
So feel free to post your thoughts or correct me where I'm wrong over there.Threw this together a few months back on Dragon, just a theory on why it may be called that and why it's likely real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnQJjbYi5QU&t=2s
Unrelated but I mention Canoga park in this video & I actually meant Central Park. I later looked into LastFM and found anyone can name a song whatever they want so i wouldn't put any stock in the Dragons Kiss title, but Dragon however is probably real.
Very well put together video and interesting. I wasn't expecting Captain and Teneal showing up in it. I'm going to share this and thank you.
#86 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tracks missing from the leaked CD's » 42 weeks ago
Hey guys i got a thread over at badapplesforum trying to make a definitive list of unreleased cd era songs.
Not trying to do a shit thread bump nor offend my friends James or Bls, just want to get as much information and knowledge of the topic in one place.
So feel free to post your thoughts or correct me where I'm wrong over there.
#87 Re: Guns N' Roses » Prostitute Promo Single CD 2002 » 42 weeks ago
Bill Brasky wrote:Shacklermyrye wrote:I believe Troccoli owns this. I wouldn't expect it to leak or anything.
You are correct sir.
It now can collect dust like the others.
I like Troccoli btw very nice guy.
People only know about this disc because someone spotted it on eBay (I think it was you guys on BadApples?). But for every disc that gets seen, there are probably three or four others that go completely unnoticed.
In 2025, leaks, alternate versions, and remixes are easier than ever to fake because of AI. The only reliable way to verify something is real is if it comes directly from physical media—like internal studio reference discs or label-made copies which is why (for those who still care) it's worth looking out for this stuff now more than before.
This disc matches the look of Capitol studio discs from that era (I’ve seen a few before), so I don’t doubt that it’s legitimate.
The bad news: you’re not going to hear this shared publicly by Troc or the person who sold it to him.
The good news: it’s probably not much different from the hundreds of versions of the song we already have. The only potential plus if we did get it would be a rip of lossless audio which might be an improvement of any comparable version floating around out there.
Yeah Gunsntortillas found it but it was already sold. I think everyone likes Troccoli it just sucks it will collect dust like i said, instead of real guns n roses fans hearing it.
So keep a eye out ebay gentleman for guns n roses stuff maybe next time one of us gets it before Troccoli or others who will just add it to their personal collection.
Btw i cannot thank you guys here on evo who put Chinese Whispers together enough. The best thing the gnr community has ever compiled.
#88 Re: Guns N' Roses » Prostitute Promo Single CD 2002 » 42 weeks ago
I believe Troccoli owns this. I wouldn't expect it to leak or anything.
You are correct sir.
It now can collect dust like the others.
I like Troccoli btw very nice guy.
#89 Re: Guns N' Roses » Live Era Vinyl Re-Release » 42 weeks ago
Does anyone give a shit about this upcoming release ?
#90 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2025 Tour Dates » 68 weeks ago
Did that bootleg only contain those few seconds or are people just being gatekeepers?
You know how the community is.
