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#891 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best Album of the 80s Elimination- Round 2 » 864 weeks ago
this is hard but skid row. Dammit So many good albums there
#892 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best Album of the 80s Elimination- Round 1 » 865 weeks ago
God this is hard
#893 Re: Guns N' Roses » What songs would you like to hear on CD2?? » 865 weeks ago
Its gotta be Soul Monster as Axl said it was his heaviest new track!
I like the obey Giant Avi !!!... I think he said mean.. I kinda the section from the end of Coma underlapped with the heavy section from better
#894 Re: The Sunset Strip » Sebastian Bachs Finest Moment » 865 weeks ago
As I've stated, the lines are blurred when it comes to artists rights concerning bootlegs, and the lines are even more blurred when it comes to fan made crap that fans make no money off of, and in the case of myspace and youtube, the artists make the money themselves.
Courts all over the globe cant even agree who owns the rights to such iconic audio/video as the MLK speech, or its use in broadcasts. Even with various rulings, decades later it is STILL open to interpretation.
True that. There was a little section in that law I posted saying that broadcast meant when something was shown to people by way of television "or similar means" 
Personally I think its good that these laws are left open to interpretation. It means as the times change, and circumstances change the law can be re-interpreted in a way that serves the greater good.
If you don't think a judge in the United States overruling this law means something(regardless of the state its in), you should either go take a refresher course on US law or just watch all that gay marriage crap thats going on here. ONE judge can go against the will of the people(including other courts), but you think they cant with something as muddied as copyright law and their merits with unauthorized audio recordings? They can, they have, and they will continue to do so.
Did a little reading and yeah it does work quite different over here the burden of proof is reversed for one. (I think)
Personally Im pro youtube /file sharing. My main problem was with the laws that make such things illegal and allow an artist like Bach/Prince to act the way they do (their interactions with fans on youtube /anti-downloading stance).
Having read over some of these laws at this point, Im a little less pessimistic about the whole situation.
You would think that to stop Artists acting like the aforementioned perpetrators that the old laws would have to be re-written. But in fact, these laws have been wide open. It is all up to how they are interpreted. We are now only really entering the age of digital music. We are at the threshold. We have been interpreting these laws in a way that supported the old system. That system is now crumbling. These laws will be re-interpreted to support the new system, and those still stuck in their ways following the old system will just have to keep up or fall by the wayside as the law will not protect their out-moded ways much longer.
The example you give of the judge in the District of NY, is a good representation of this shift into the new digital age and how the law can in fact support that (because of how open it actually is)...
Let me just scratch down that for the Record. Bachs way of dealing with his fans (and Princes imo) is ridiculous. The legal system that allowed them to act like this seems to be changing. Though its gonna take more cases for this to become the status quo of course, but were only at the very begining of this new age....
Its kinda exciting really.
Hell Im in a god mood today 
#895 Re: The Sunset Strip » New AIC Album Sept 29 » 865 weeks ago
Just gave looking in view a listen. Impressive
#896 Re: The Sunset Strip » New AIC Album Sept 29 » 865 weeks ago
From the Official Diamond Lie Press Kit:
VOCALS: Layne
BORN: Aug. 22, 1967; Seattle, WA
CAREER: 4 yearsTaking center stage for DIAMOND LIE is the energetic and electrifying Layne. Layne's experience with various groups of various styles has given him quite a range of vocal capabilities; from the speed metal group SLEZE, to the punchy glam rock of ALICE 'N CHAINS. Layne's versatility and uninhibited stage performance prove him to be a valuable frontman.
GUITAR: Jerry Cantrell
BORN: March 18, 1966; Tacoma, WA
CAREER: 4 yearsThe much devoted Jerry Cantrell is founder and guitar ace of DIAMOND LIE. Jerry is the only remaining member of the original DIAMOND LIE line- up, but the transiton (sic) was a positive one. This is his first band, but his natural talent and enthusiasm keep him a precious driving force behind DIAMOND LIE.
BASS: Mike Starr
BORN: April 4, 1966; Honolulu, HI
CAREER: 8 years
One half of DIAMOND LIE's rhythm duo is Mike Starr, delivering the up- beat basslines in DIAMOND LIE's music. Mike, having previosuly been with other local bands is no stranger to the stage. He has opened for many national acts, those including the Plasmatics, Quensryche, Oingo Boingo, and Missing Persons.DRUMS: Sean K.
BORN: May 27, 1966; Seattle, WA
CAREER: 15 years
The other half of this powerful rhythm team is Sean K. on drums. Sean's talent and exuberance are well supported by his years of experience. DIAMOND LIE is his first band, but he's done a lot of studio work with other prominent local bands in the past. Sean's experience, talent, and sheer energy provide the backbone for DIAMOND LIE.
I did not know this. Looks like they had plenty of Experience before the Grunge thing kicked off.
#897 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best album of the 90s elimination- Final Round » 865 weeks ago
I prefer 2 aswell
#898 Re: The Sunset Strip » Best album of the 90s elimination- Final Round » 865 weeks ago
shit voted for the wrong one
#899 Re: The Sunset Strip » Sebastian Bachs Finest Moment » 865 weeks ago
Performers shall enjoy the exclusive right of authorizing, as regards their performances: (i) the broadcasting and communication to the public of their unfixed performances except where the performance is already a broadcast performance; and (ii) the fixation of their unfixed performances
That right there is a loophole I could fly a space shuttle through. When exactly does something become a "broadcast performance"? TV debut? Radio debut? When a singer opens his mouth onstage?
When broadcasted with Artists permission across any form of media. Al these legal terms are clearly defined.
Broadcast:to transmit programs or signals intended to be received by the public through radio, television, or similar means.
In 2004, there were two more anti-bootlegging cases decided, one criminal case and one civil case. In United States v. Martignon, 346 F.Supp.2d 413 (S.D.N.Y. 2004), the owner of Midnight Records, comprising a store in Manhattan, a catalogue service, and an Internet site, was arrested and subsequently indicted by a federal grand jury for violating 18 U.S.C.A. § 2391A, for selling unauthorized recordings of live performances through his business.
Martignon moved to dismiss the indictment. His lawyers had the advantage of having read the Eleventh Circuit’s Moghadam opinion. In addition to asserting that Section 2319A violated the “Writings” requirement for lack of “fixation”, they followed the Eleventh Circuit’s advice and also asserted a “limited Times” defence.
Judge Baer, of the Southern District of New York, distinguished Moghadam as being a narrow holding because the statute was not challenged on “perpetual protection” grounds. “Not only was this issue not present in Moghadam, but the Moghadam Court all but stated, on several occasions, that had the defendant challenged the statute’s violation of the “Limited Times” provision in the Copyright Clause, the Court may well have come to a different decision about the statute’s validity.”The judge held that statute violated the “limited Times” provision by “granting seemingly perpetual protection to live musical performances.” The judge also addressed the “fixation” issue that was avoided by the Eleventh Circuit and held, “by virtue of the fact that the statute regulates unfixed live performances, the anti-bootlegging statute is not within the purview of Congress’ Copyright Clause Power.”
The Court then addressed whether the legislation prohibiting the recording and selling of “bootleg” recordings could have been enacted under the Commerce powers. In addition to noting that everything in the legislative history, as well as the placement of the corresponding civil statute in the Copyright Act supported the proposition that Congress thought that it was acting under its Copyright powers and not its Commerce authority.In contrast to the fixation problem, the perpetual copyright-like protection was found to be so “fundamentally inconsistent” with Copyright Clause’s “limited Times” restriction that the legislation was held to be impermissible under the Commerce Clause, as well. Defendant’s motion to dismiss the indictment was granted.
Wow. A U.S. judge agreed with me and threw it out of court. I'm shocked.
Are you serious? Your quoting THIS case to Back Up your argument??? First off this Applies ONLY to the District of New York. One single district in one Huge nation. Anywhere else in in the U.S, and the rest of the planet, Bootlegging is considered Illegal
Just to clarify this for you, here is the exact section of the Copyright Act which outlaws bootlegging. (Everywhere in America BUT the District of New York)
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/ … _1101.html
Seems fairly cut and dry to me.
Its really Great that ONE U.S. judge agreed with your stance on this issue. Meanwhile Every other Judge in you Country agrees with Me.
Here's Phil Collins. (He is an actual Artist that lives in the rest of the world where it is still Illegal) He won his bootlegging case too.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ph … 12122.html
Here you have a Bootlegger who was CONVICTED of selling Led Zep Boots. Jimmy notoriously despises bootleggers.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/01 … onviction/
As you can see from this more recent link. The Sinatra Estate believe they have a good case against bootlegging
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2001/ma … ars-tapes/
Bruse Springsteen Case
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop … music.html
When touring round Japan Noel Gallagher is well known for walking into record shops picking out all the Oasis Bootlegs and walking out the Door without paying. His reason for this ,he states, is that they are his anyway. Never once has a single shop owner brought charges against him because even the Bootleggers know they are in the wrong. Of course he himself actually supports Bootlegging and does this just to Entertain himself.
#900 Re: The Sunset Strip » Sebastian Bachs Finest Moment » 865 weeks ago
??? As anyone can see by reading back, I have made it clear since page 1, that I disagree with his methods. Im not defending him; Im not on the fence. However that doesn't mean he is in the wrong as far as his legal rights go.
I think he is a fool to act in such as way just because he can BUT, that's just it. He can. The law as it stands protects him. As far as the legal system is concerned he is well within his rights..."I don't like it anymore than you men" but Im not going to ignore the facts and truth of the matter because of personal emotions towards the guy. Is it a bad idea to conduct yourself the way he does? Yes. Am I going to allow that to deter me from enjoying his music? No... Why should I miss out just because the guy is an ass, if I happen to enjoy some of his music?
I personally think that all established artists in today's industry should be working of Trent Reznors business model adapted to their business entity.
Still though I won't ignore the facts. Its his right to deal with his business any way he sees fit, and also he is well within his rights to do so.
