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#911 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 466 weeks ago
So Comey did tell Trump he wasn't personally under investigation 3 times in his prepared testimony before Congress. At what point will this nonsense end? Trump is the President.
Will James Brown and Schiff apologize? Will our board members who called for impeachment admit they were wrong? In short, TRUMP WAS NEVER UNDER INVESTIGATION. Though I'm sure the goal post will be moved again and I'll be called a bunch of names. I believe the great poet W. Axl Rose once said "It's harder to live with the truths about you than to live with the lies about me"
Wow, you're a genius. Trump's administration is under investigation. As we've been saying for months now.
When arguing against a strawman, I guess it's no surprise you continue to do so as this thing unfolds.
What it did show, was that one more than one occasion, Trump used his position to try and influence the head of the FBI to drop the investigation. Comey wasn't the only one he asked. That's why Trump's intel chiefs were refusing to answer questions today on the hill. If the answer was "no" they would have said so.
Furthermore, as with all criminal investigations, they lower down the food chain and work their way up. Just as they are doing here. They don't start with the top guy.
Trump obstructed justice, and no amount of spin/lying from you traitors is going to change that.
#912 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 467 weeks ago
#913 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 467 weeks ago
Trump is bringing this all on himself. I don't know what's been proven false that you feel I'm pushing or accepting as fact. And I can't find any Comey quote about letting her off the hook because of her lawyers or that she's still under investigation.
Non stop. This is almost entirely Trump's doing.
#914 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 467 weeks ago
Well that makes more sense. I respect that take more. Makes more sense than he has some brilliant plan to collude with the Russians.
Nobody here has said that.
If anything, I'd speculate that he has ties to Russia financially, including but not limited to (which is documented) Russian mobsters.
I also find it likely that Russia saw him as somebody easy to control, and that's why they wanted him to win the election. We already know that they worked to get him elected, and they did that for a reason.
#915 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 467 weeks ago
So today it is reported that the two Russian camps in Maryland and New York, closed by Obama after we learned Russia meddled with our election, will be re-opened to the Russians by Trump. At first the White House had stipulations, but after a couple of days, those were removed and the White House is giving the green light for them to come back. There are few other hoops to jump through, but he's OK with it.
So yet another odd coincidence in the middle of this Russian investigation. Again, why would Trump ever do this? The previous president told them to get the fuck out after the election. And now Trump, under investigation, with new stories breaking every day, wants to reverse Obama's eviction and allow them to return.
Again, he's either Putin's puppet or an absolute idiot.
#916 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 467 weeks ago
It means exactly what the video said. You folks have continually moved the goal post and you have nothing to support your wild accusations.
There you go again.
You've fallen victim to a media and narrative that reports on if Trump wipes his ass sitting or standing and hypothesizes about what it could mean. We've gone from knowing treason was committed, to asking for a special investigator, to demanding impeachment, to "I don't know what he did, but he did something". There's never an end state. It's perpetual bitching. And worse, it's perpetual bitching about things the left outright supported with Obama. Total hypocrisy and disingenuous behavior.
I'm not sure what you are reading. We go through this over and over. You're either lying, or have a problem with reality.
If anyone thinks Trump or anyone he associated with did something illegal that prohibits him from being President, put forth an argument.
There is no argument to be made until the facts are in. We are just beginning a series of investigations. This is going to last a long time. That's about it. The media is reporting on these investigations and we are discussing them. This seems to make you so angry that you feel you must lie about it. I don't understand why you keep doing this.
But let's point something out to you guys. The FBI, the House and Senate are not the media. Let me repeat: The FBI, House and Senate are not the media. You understand this right? Subpoenas, grand juries, the process of discovery, testimonies and potential deals have nothing to do with the media. The media is reporting on these things, and speculating, which we all are, but that's about it.
The leaks from the WH are also unprecedented, as is the IC. There are reasons for that, because they see what's happening.
I will tell you this. Trump will not finish his term. You're so distracted by your false arguments/lies/whatever to see reality. This is not some joke. This isn't lefty media spin. This is a big deal.
#917 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 467 weeks ago
John Sununu??? That hack job? HAHAHAHAHAHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Look outside the rightwing bubble, dudes.
He didn't even say anything anyway.
#918 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 467 weeks ago
Smoking Guns wrote:And a million impeachment types suddenly went silent
Again, what does that even mean?
He's doing the same thing you are: Attacking a false premise. IE, the reporter(s) are clinging to conspiracy theories and have arrived at some conclusion, which isn't the case. They are reporting on the investigations, and breaking news stories (which happen almost daily at this point.)
Context is everything. Trump defenders dismiss each new story as if it's the only one. When in fact we've got dozens of issues piling up on top of one another.
#919 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 468 weeks ago
^^^
Yes. This was specifically to keep our government excluded from their communication with Russia. He also wanted to set it up in a Russian diplomatic facility to ensure our government was completely excluded.
I mean...come the fuck on.
#920 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 468 weeks ago
They need to move on from that one because it is a non issue. The US always has secret backdoor channels to the Russians. The Kennedys did as well. I never heard of cries for impeachment and that was during an insane chapter of the cold war.
I suppose the issue at hand is exactly WHAT the channel is/was for. If so, push that angle. Instead its, "OMG!!! White House has channels to Russia!!"
Who gives a rat's ass.
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Unbelievable James.

