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#941 Re: The Garden » Terrorist Attack at Ariana Grande concert » 494 weeks ago

The idea must be destroyed, and I'm not sure how to do that.

A lot of these terror attacks in Europe and America are from second generation citizens. Young men who are radicalized by terrorists online or perhaps in person. That said, I do think it's a bad idea to invite a 7th century culture, steeped in religion, to coincide with a progressive 21 century society. Things take time to change. People resist change. Individually and together as a group. Uneducated people who are brainwashed by religion, who are already suspicious of outsiders, aren't going to assimilate easily or quickly IMO.

They're not going to stop. This will only continue. It's sad and also maddening.

#942 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago

Brennan: I encountered info & intel that revealed "contacts and interactions" between Russian officials and the Trump campaign.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05 … ction.html

#943 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago

Like an SNL skit...slow reading Trump. Get a load of the ticker. Can't say that I disagree with him. These guys are fucking losers. But it so is anybody who disagrees with him on Twitter. Such gravitas.


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#945 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago

Smoking Guns wrote:

Right now there no crime being investigated.

It was (and probably still is) a counter intelligence investigation, however has since morphed into a criminal investigation as well.

#946 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

No, you guys have been claiming Trump is guilty for months.

I wish you'd quit lying. Nobody here has drawn any conclusions, other than from the latest news, which is a clear admission of obstruction from Trump himself. The rest is us discussing articles and that's about it. There are a lot of moving parts, paired with Trump who clearly is doing everything he can to stop any further inquiry. If he was 100% innocent, then he'd co-operate and end this quickly. But instead he incriminates himself, says outrageous shit, panders to the Russians and fires the man investigating him.

At this point, even Republicans are talking about impeachment. Given the facts presented, this is hardly exaggerated behavior. It's also why Trump's attorneys are looking into the impeachment process.

But more than anything, just like Buzz, you seem to be upset with what people talk about. You two are a couple of control freaks I think. Easily angered by opinions other than your own. And more than anything you want it to stop. At the same time you both exaggerate what posters are saying. Constantly trying to get them to defend positions they aren't taking in the first place.

So quit lying. Just stop. You two want a higher quality debate? Then step up to the plate and present one for a change. Allow others to make their points without lying about what they said.

#947 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago

misterID wrote:

More nonsense. No one is backing down. No matter what the probe finds, he's unfit to be president, that's why he will be impeached. Or resign. There's absolutely nothing to say I'm wrong about, he's crying over the investigation. Everyone else is happy about it but him. You're talking out of your ass yet again.

Democrats take an adult approach to this = "backing down."

But at the same time everybody is picking on Trump and everything is exaggerated. Poor Trump can't do anything without everybody "freaking out." Poor Trump! Everybody is soooo mean to him.

Ummm....OK.

Sorry to break it, but real news is reported about Trump consistently. Why is this? Well mostly it's from something incredibly stupid Trump says or does. Now that he's pissed enough people off, we're seeing leaks coming from the White House and our intelligence community about this investigation. Which yield even more outlandish actions on his part.

In the meantime articles are posted from: Wall Street Journal, Forbes, LA Times, Washington Post, NYT, Bloomberg etc...yet Flagg seems to be under the impression everybody is posting articles from "Mother Jones." I don't know where he sees all this. Maybe he should have his head examined. Or his eyesight at the very least.

#948 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 494 weeks ago

James Lofton wrote:

He's perfect for our culture. He's not going anywhere.

IMO Trump will be gone before the year is up.

#949 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 495 weeks ago

Randall Flagg wrote:

  What will happen tomorrow that will change the story once again?

The same thing that happens every day: Trump.

#950 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 495 weeks ago

Trump's in big trouble now, almost entirely of his own making.

I expect more leaks to happen. I don't think they're necessarily coming from the WH, but from the IC. I said before he picked a fight with the wrong establishment. The Comey firing was the last straw IMO. Like pouring gasoline on a fire.

Not only do I expect more leaks, but I would not be surprised if something really big comes out. Death by a 1000 cuts and then boom, somebody or some agency (foreign or domestic) delivers the knock out punch. Comey's memos are pretty damn bad. He's also willing to testify in public. But I feel something much worse could be out there.

I hope he doesn't do anything really stupid before he gets 86d.

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