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#9621 Re: Guns N' Roses » Stuck Inside » 932 weeks ago
It's a Sebastian Bach album, mainstream radio and rock will ignore it, like how they ignore GN'R. Rock-based radio stations and publications- will probably like it.
I agree totaly. People who like the hard rock sound (like myself) will like it and people who don't will ignore it rather than bash it much because they just dont pay any attention to the 'has been' rock music scene. I think it would be riskier if it was experemental in some way - as then it would prob get ignored by the popular music scene and then rejected by fans of the old school rock.
#9622 Re: The Sunset Strip » Post your favourite song lyrics » 932 weeks ago
I always liked this from the soundtrack to "From Dusk Till Dawn"
Watching her
Strolling in the night
So white
Wondering why
It's only After Dark
In her eyes
A distant fire light
burns bright
Wondering why
It's only After Dark
I find myself in her room
Feel the fever of my doom
Falling falling
Through the floor
I'm knocking on the Devil's door
In the Dawn
I wake up to find
her gone
And a note says
Only After Dark
Burning burning
in the flame
Now I know her
secret name
You can tear her temple down
But she'll be back
and rule again
In my heart
A deep and dark
and lonely part
Wants her and
waits for After Dark
#9623 Re: The Garden » Man in trouble for having sex with bike » 932 weeks ago
luckylittlelady wrote:I was thinking this was going to be a motorbike, at least it would have an exhaust to stick it in.
I know a guy who did that.
OMG the burns, the burns
#9624 Re: Guns N' Roses » Stuck Inside » 932 weeks ago
I think we can see what was good in the 80s taken to a new level through production recording technology - but I don't agree in terms of musical style.
That is - from an audio perspective I think TSI sounds better than AFD in that the latter mixing and recording techniques enabled the different parts of the tracks to sound cleaner and crisper. (However thats not to say that TSI is better than AFD or have better songs - i'm talking purely about production.)
As for music itself changing over the years, i could get into a much larger philosophical discussion. I mean some music, especially when a genre is new - does initally grow and evolve. Like say rap - you can listen to the early commerical rap artists like say NWA, and then listen to a modern rap song - and theres a clear progression in the musical form.
I think this is also true of metal and hard rock - you can go back to the earliest roots of stuff and watch changes. Like from Robert Johnston on an accoustic guitar, to early electric players, then came to people like black sabbath to make it heavier, then people like korn to tune down more. As an art form is new theres a lot of experemenation.
But there comes a time when everything is done, well i guess everything is never done, but where change for the sake of doing something new alone is perhaps not going to make anything of a better quality that using what was already found to be great. I think this is especially true of one artist. While its nice for an artist to grow - at some point you need to consider what your gifts are - and what things your best at doing. Like baz's lungs were born to make the rock style he does, should he move into some other art from like rap - (as he's been doing lol) he might be ok at it - but its not his real calling IMHO.
Anyway...so i'm saying that while some music does evolve over the years, theres also no harm in recgonsing what styles were good and going with them. Jazz and blues are old and cool. So is classic rock.
I agree GNR is getting nostalga in the sence that they arn't releasing new music and seem to tour based off the old albums. But at the same time - we have to accept that once a band did massive things 2o years ago - they become respected for that contribution. Like the rolling stones are.
But overall its not so much about Baz or Axl being nostalga - its more about fashion changing. Baz has ALWAYS been a rock demon with a killer scream and wicked range and a party animal stage presence. In the 1980s it was the done thing in popular culture to dig it. Apparently your saying its not in the 00s.
But myself I got it then, and I got it now, long live real rock and fucking roll!
EDIT: And i just wanna add to this by saying I dont think anyone is pretending its the 1980s - its just that some of us are comftorable with a hard rock genre and not self concious about music fashions.
#9625 Re: Guns N' Roses » Stuck Inside » 933 weeks ago
The obvious:
1) Baz is washed up.
Why? I would agree if this song was far below the music he used to make. But to me this sounds like it could be on any of the records that made him famous. So he hasn't lost his gifts. Unless your saying he is washed up cos he hasn't evolved to a new style - in which case maybe you have something. But then who wants baz to start sounding like J. Timberlake or something? Not me. And besides...sometimes sticking to what you do best rocks - ala Ac/Dc!!
The obvious:
2) Baz used Axl to sell albums for him.
Baz likes Axl's voice, and wanted him on the album cos he likes his singing, he is friends with the guy, and yeah - will help his record sell. Why is that a problem?
3) Axl's performances on the songs are below the standards he's set for himself when he last released albums.
I think this is my problem with what you've been saying in these threads. I'd agree in the sence that its not the best song he has ever recorded. But like - its not even his own songs - he's just helping out a friends tracks - if everything you do has to be groundbreaking and the best ever then you create a barrier that prevents new material from even existing.
So i'd say firstly - dont judge a Sebastian record on the basis of a GNR record - think of it more as an Axl cameo in Skid Row land...and 2 - theres nothing wrong with a few fun songs that have some cool screams and stuff in them. Doesnt mean he wont go on to make another Estranged in his own time.
I'd say most arts can do things in different styles, don't condem axl to only being aloud to remake UYI over and over again. To me its this insistance that he has to live up to some preset standard that is more likely to hard CD comming out than if he was to cameo on a record that floped (assuming it did).
4) The album will fail.
Depends what you mean by fail. Sure i dont think it will be #1 on the charts and destroy the world. But does anyone? i would expect it to sell well amongst hard rock fans, and do well the way stuff like Black Label Society does - to a particualr audience.
5) The media will lump Axl is with Baz when the album fails.
6) Axl's already fragile ego will take another hit which will not help the possible release of CD.
Well...i dunno...would Axl feel responsible if Baz's album failed? I mean its not like he wrong the songs for Baz. And as i stated earlier I think its this kind of reasoning if anything that would hurt Axl's ego. But to be honest - I think in the end he doesnt care too much what people think - you do what you think is best as an artist and hope people agree.
7) The few vocal fans that support Axl no matter what he does will blast me for this post.
Well i'm not one of those. I have some issues with lots of stuff GNR and Axl has done. Myself i'm a fan of Axl's singing, a fan of Slash's playing and a fan of sebastian. I think they're all great musos - but that doesnt mean everything they do is perfect - and doesnt mean they always make great decisions in their personal lives (eg drugs etc). But hey - we're all human.
Anyway...all i'm saying is that i'm someone who disagrees with what you've said. As i genuinely am enjoying these songs. Maybe i'm a minority though..maybe theres more of you than me. Who knows
#9626 Re: Guns N' Roses » Stuck Inside » 933 weeks ago
Yeah i celebrate what comes from the 80s cos to me stuff like Skid Row and GNR from the 80s kicks the fuck out of what i hear on the radio these days!
also - axl is singing on baz's songs - he is a screamer type singer - so it makes sence that Axl will add some power screams - its what you do in this genre.
One of the good things of Axl was always that he can do screams and rocker stuff yet also write awesome softer stuff too.
#9627 Re: The Garden » Man in trouble for having sex with bike » 933 weeks ago
but what can you even fuck on a bike? The wheel spokes? LOL
#9628 Re: Guns N' Roses » Stuck Inside » 933 weeks ago
personally i'm not looking for fresh...i'm looking for rock in the same vein as "Slave to the Grind" from this album, and on that front its delivering well
#9629 Re: Guns N' Roses » KFRQ plays Baz/Axl song Back in the Saddle » 933 weeks ago
wow james you and i have very different opinions on this, i thought there was loads of feeling in it - even thought is different to the original version.
The Axl screams were awesome....and i thought the band was cool too!
Overall i'm excited
I mean i'll admit its not anything revolutionary...but then I always thought sebastian was about making great old school rock...and to me it does that very well....i'm looking forward to a CD quality release and blasting the crap out of it
#9630 Re: Guns N' Roses » KFRQ plays Baz/Axl song Back in the Saddle » 933 weeks ago
I wanna hear it again...how high was that scream axl was doing? Was like some kind of demonic evil banchee thing...hahahah...I love it...i want it again...when's it come out November?