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#981 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 492 weeks ago

AtariLegend wrote:

It answers that you didn't read it;

From the Hillary article;

second paragraph;

It isn't yet clear how that hacking would have taken place, in such a way to ensure that Donald Trump won the vote

final paragraph;

probably weren't a consequence of the cyber attack

You're posting stuff from twitter pollux without reading it.

I posted two headlines. Did you read them? I see one of them saying 'no' and the other saying 'yes' on the exact same subject, a couple of weeks apart. The headline is the most important part of the article because the majority of readers don't go beyond it. So I have presented you with a crystal clear example of media mental gymnastics.

And when I do give you the courtesy and take the 5 minutes reading that rubbish, the articles both clearly state that election fraud in October was highly improbable, while now it is certainly possible. Nowhere was it implied that either of these definitely did or did not take place, which is the dichotomy you need to declare all of this 'false'.

#982 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 492 weeks ago

I guess that answers it.

#983 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 492 weeks ago

Honest question, how do you guys manage to ignore images like these?

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Many people support Trump just because he ain't that. It's the fourth estate we're talking about after all. When objectivity is so blatantly absent as in the picture above, we see a problem that desperately needs to be fixed. If Trump reminds you of a fascist, newspeak in the media should remind you of something far worse.

#984 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 492 weeks ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsXsS77AIKA

#985 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

Mitt looking comfortable. 16

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#986 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

bigbri wrote:
polluxlm wrote:


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Haha, the media is so irrelevant, Trump and his supporters go after them every chance they get.

Also, speaking of irrelevant, this is the first time I've heard of this guy.

Finally, you can definitely be an idiot and be rich and be president and be successful. The smartest people I've ever known never went to college or did anything "relevant" with their life.

The "dumbest" President is estimated to have had an IQ of 120 (Ulysses Grant).

I think you underestimate what it takes to become US President. Trump shows he is well above average with his wit alone.

#987 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

You hold Caesar in that high regard?

Trump like Caesar came from the elite, but ended up fighting them. They were both highly charismatic and notorious womanizer's. Their enemies were victims of their quick wit. They both rose to the top in the most powerful civilization in the world. The people loved them, the elite hated them and history remembers them.

Take this story from the Senate and you will see what I mean:

The Senate were holding treason hearings and Cato reproached Caesar for receiving private notes during the proceedings. He accused Caesar of being involved in the Cataline plot and demanded the message be read out loud.

"Sure", Caesar said.

Cato started reading. It was a love letter to Caesar. From Cato's sister.

Hate him or love him, Trump is more than just another Tony Blair.

#988 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

Trump is a natural politician. Raw talent. His Presidency will take a lot of people by surprise.

This is what it must have been like to live in Caesar's time.

#989 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago

Limbaugh: Dems to impeach Trump with voter fraud at top of list

Donald Trump has not even been inaugurated into office yet, but radio host Rush Limbaugh is predicting a concerted effort by Democrats to impeach him from the presidency.

“I don’t have any doubt that there’s going to be a Democrat effort to impeach Trump,” Limbaugh said on his national broadcast Monday.

And even without any high crimes or misdemeanors committed by the president-elect, Limbaugh said opponents of the Republican will choose another route to push for his ouster.

“I think at the very least, the Democrats are gonna put voter fraud on their list of particulars for impeaching Trump,” he explained.

“They’re already beginning now to establish the evidentiary chain, and one of the elements of this is going to be that he’s illegitimate, that he really didn’t win.”

“They’ve got this popular-vote margin they keep focusing on of 2.1 or 2.2. million votes now [showing Democratic Party nominee Hillary Clinton ahead], and they’re gonna say is, ‘That’s just too big to ignore.'”

“The overall theme is that Trump’s election is not legitimate,” Limbaugh continued. “They’re not gonna say it was unfair. They’re gonna say it was not legitimate. Therefore, Trump is illegitimate; therefore, his presidency is illegitimate; therefore, his agenda is illegitimate because the people really didn’t select this.”

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He remarked that CNN just published a poll claiming more than 80 percent of voters want Trump and other Republicans in government to incorporate policies promoted by Democrats into their governance.

Limbaugh said the poll, along with calls for recounts in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan, is “coordinated” by those on the political left.

“It’s either from the Hillary campaign or from the Obama White House or from some combination of Democrat strategists and community organizers, malcontents and what have you,” said Limbaugh.
“It won’t be long, I predict, that voter fraud will be accepted as a fact by the media,” he added. “Nothing with them is happenstance. Everything’s polled. Everything’s focus-grouped. It’s tested.”

And even if Trump holds onto his victory, Limbaugh said those on left have other motives at work.

“At the least, if everything in it goes wrong, they’re still gonna end up raising tons of money from unhappy, deranged lunatic leftists who have been made that way by the Democrat Party and the media. And they’re gonna promise them that with every donation, they get closer to unseating Trump, or to nullifying Trump or negating Trump.”

Limbaugh also flayed Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein for pushing the recount mantra, and continuously hiking the financial amount needed for the effort.

“She started out saying she would need a million-and-a-half dollars to do the recount in three states. And as donations kept coming in, the amount of money she said she needed kept increasing,” he explained. “Now she needs $7 million. … The more money she gets, the more money she says she needs. It’s clearly a scam. … Democrats are writing checks left and right. Democrats are being scammed by the people responsible for their loss. It’s an amazing thing to see.”
Limbaugh claimed that those on the left pushing for recounts are guilty of blatant hypocrisy:

    They’re also going nuts over Trump tweeting the idea that millions of illegal aliens voted, and if you take those votes out he’s probably gonna win the popular vote. … The Democrats are acting like, “Oh, my God, they’re accusing fraud? There’s no evidence of any fraud.” These are the people before the election were running around claiming there already was fraud.

    These are the people before the election were warning of it, and they were telling everybody be on the lookout for it. They had their lawyers at all the polling places. They were expecting fraud. They use fraud. They have perfected it. They opposed voter ID so that they can engage in it. And now, all of a sudden, when Trump references the possibility, these people, “No, no, no. This election was clean and pure as the wind-driven snow.” Except, except now they want to look at maybe recounting in three states where they can’t find any evidence of chicanery, they can’t find any evidence of tampering.

    And yet they must think there was some or they wouldn’t want these recounts. And yet when Trump alludes to possible fraud, they laugh at it and mock it and say it’s ridiculous, while at the same time they’re trying to find it. Of course, not their own. The don’t want to find the evidence of illegal aliens voting. No, no. They want to find discrepancies between machine tabulations and paper ballots, and they want to look at these variations, if there are any, and claim the machines were tampered with by the Russians. …

    These people are deranged. I think they’re out of their minds. They’ve literally lost their minds. They don’t know what they’re talking about. They’re talking, they’re flapping just to hear their heads rattle. They have no semblance of substance in anything that they are talking about now, and they’re bringing along their deranged, lunatic fringe, which is their base, right along with ’em, and it’s contributing to this whole idea of a divided country with no hope for crossing the gap or bridging the gap.

http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/limbaugh-dem … R9EJv9w.99

#990 Re: The Garden » US Politics Thread » 493 weeks ago


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