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polluxlm
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Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl

polluxlm wrote:
monkeychow wrote:

Umm...did Ali ever say he was a lawyer?

I don't know. Did anyone else?

Something like that would be my guess though.

Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl

AtariLegend wrote:
ManetsBR wrote:

Rolling Stone Brazil just interviewd Doug Goldstein:

    "I'd love to meet Slash and clarify that (Slash's acusation's against Doug, on his book) because the truth is that we were, for seven years, the people who handled the band's bussines. I doubled the values of the commistion that they received. I love Slash to death, it's one of my favoruite persons on the whole world, and for some reason he has these ideas."

    One of the reasons of the rejection would be Niven, who came to the point of hiring an specialist in black magic in New Orleans after he was fired. "Everyday after work he would go to his bedroom, put on a black cape and cursed Axl and I. I was in Hawaii, living my life and Niven appeared, resumed his friendship with Slash and Duff, and took credit for all I did. Later, Slash told me Niven tried to fuck his girlfriend.

    Goldstein also supposedly took the blame for the contract in which the GNR members gave the name to Axl. "On that day my son was born, and we didn't care about the continent. They were in Barcelona, I was in California, and they confused me with the tour manager because they were drinking too much at the time and don't remember." Despite that, and the alleged idea that Rose wanted to add a third guitarist to the line-up, nothing was more important to the break up than a factor that went unnoticed by the public: the Michael Jackson factor.

    "In 1991, we were on the road, and Slash went to my office and said "I'll be leaving tomorrow to play with Michael Jackson on a tribute concert." I told him not to do it because Axl was molested by his father when he was two and he believed the charges against Michael Jackson. Everyone knew Eddie Van Halen received US$1 million to play in Beat It. So I asked Slash 'how much are you receiving? Can I manage this to you?" and he said "I'll just receive a big screen television.' When Axl found out Slash was gonna play with Michael Jackson and that the payment was a big screen TV he was devastated. He thought Slash would support him and be against all abuse. From Axl's point of view, that was the only problem. He could ignore the drugs and the alcohol, but never the child abuse."

    To reunite the old Guns, a few words would be enough. "Slash would have to apologize for the Michael Jackson episode. And I really believe that for the much that I love the band, I'd be the manager to reunite'em, I don't think anyone else could do it." Determined to reunite the late XX century icon, the manager made a request to the magazine: "I'm a very loving and spiritual guy, and it hurts that instead of asking me how I feel and about those things Niven created, Slash simply believed that they were true and threw me to the lions. I love Slash like a brother, he is the brother I never had. I'd do anything for him. Do me a favor, tell him that I really expect to sit with him wherever he wants to tell my side of the story."

Source: http://rollingstone.uol.com.br/noticia/ … a/#imagem0

From: http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/to … ive-slash/

Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl

johndivney wrote:

What?!

This is the first time I'm hearing this MJ thing being an issue? I mean I've heard before about axl being annoyed @ some of slashs guest appearances but I thought that was more a minor issue springing from jealous, if it ever really existed in the first place.

Have any of you heard his before?

apex-twin
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Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl

apex-twin wrote:
Dougie wrote:

"In 1991, we were on the road, and Slash went to my office and said "I'll be leaving tomorrow to play with Michael Jackson on a tribute concert." I told him not to do it because Axl was molested by his father when he was two and he believed the charges against Michael Jackson. Everyone knew Eddie Van Halen received US$1 million to play in Beat It. So I asked Slash 'how much are you receiving? Can I manage this to you?" and he said "I'll just receive a big screen television.' When Axl found out Slash was gonna play with Michael Jackson and that the payment was a big screen TV he was devastated. He thought Slash would support him and be against all abuse. From Axl's point of view, that was the only problem. He could ignore the drugs and the alcohol, but never the child abuse."

There's a sense to be made, there. In the past, Axl has confessed to have been downed by Slash playing with other artists, including Jackson, only the reasoning behind it was originally a bit vague. As Michael Jackson was certainly a capable showman and songwriter, much like Axl, on the outset, Slash did exactly what was required for the world to love and respect him, only in Axl's mind, he was letting go of some core values.

Axl, 2000 wrote:

''I never said that I was bitter,'' Rose explains, characteristically concerned with making fine distinctions. ''Hurt, yeah. Disappointed. I mean, with Slash, I remember crying about all kinds of things in my life, but I had never felt hot, burning tears...hot, burning tears of anger. Basically, to me, it was because I am watching this guy and I don't understand it. Playing with everyone from Space Ghost to Michael Jackson. I don't get it. I wanted the world to love and respect him. I just watched him throw it away.''

Playing with Michael Jackson, the Snakepit thing, the Sympathy for the Devil thing... These are all silly reasons to go on in ire for twenty years, as they could've been resolved a long time ago by simply getting those two in a room to suss things out.

Then again, Axl mentioned MJ on his list of enjoyable frontmen last year.

"If I had to say who I thought the best singers were, I'd say first that I don't know there's a definitive answer as in my opinion it's subjective, and second that my focus is primarily rock singers," he told Spin. "That said, I enjoy Freddie Mercury, Elvis Presley, Paul McCartney, [Nazareth singer] Dan McCafferty, Janis Joplin, Michael Jackson, Elton John, Roger Daltrey, Don Henley, [Electric Light Orchestra frontman] Jeff Lynne, Johnny Cash, Frank Sinatra, [jazz singer] Jimmy Scott, Etta James, Fiona Apple, [Pretenders frontwoman] Chrissie Hynde, Stevie Wonder, James Brown and a ton of others (predominantly Seventies rock singers) and would rather hear any of them anytime rather than me!"

Aussie
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Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl

Aussie wrote:

According to wiki the first child sex allegations came out against MJ in 1993. So I'm not sure how that fits with Doug's timeline of Axl being pissed with Slash in 1991 for playing with MJ. Was Axl psychic that in 2 years time MJ was going to be accused?

apex-twin
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Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl

apex-twin wrote:

Yeah, the folks at MyGNR have already noticed this. Slash played with MJ in 1992 (before the allegations broke up) and again in 1995. Axl seemed to take more of an issue of the fact that Slash was playing with other artists, other frontmen, taking the GNR magic out of Axland, and into a new environment. Be it Space Ghost, Snoop Dogg, or MJ.

And Dougie's in hot water by making those claims, because whatever the truth, Axl is likely furious at him by now.

Aussie
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Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl

Aussie wrote:

Doug is actually pretty funny when he speaks, he seems to ramble and actually do his cause harm rather than good.  I don't think Axl will be calling him to be the "manager to reunite-em" any time soon.

Did Slash play with Space Ghost after MJ? 16

misterID
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Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl

misterID wrote:
Aussie wrote:

According to wiki the first child sex allegations came out against MJ in 1993. So I'm not sure how that fits with Doug's timeline of Axl being pissed with Slash in 1991 for playing with MJ. Was Axl psychic that in 2 years time MJ was going to be accused?

Ding, ding ding, ding. Yeah complete nonsense. DG is a moron.

otto
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Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl

otto wrote:

On the VMA's in 92, could the "This has nothing to do with Michael Jackson" comment from Axl's be a jab at Slash then?
Always thought it was just a jab at the award name, but coming from Axl we'll never know...

otto
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Re: Doug Goldstein Letter to Axl

otto wrote:

And I mean about Slash playing with him not the sexual abuse nonsense.

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