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war
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Re: ID,Izzy looking for your boy MSL via twitta

war wrote:

I find it odd that he hasn't spoken to Izzy yet. Izzy fucking Stradlin is trying to get a hold of you and you haven't bothered to get back at him? hmm.

Re: ID,Izzy looking for your boy MSL via twitta

Lomax wrote:
misterID wrote:

You should stop now because none of this is true.

Good point. Well argued. big_smile
Your use of logic and argument are truly mind blowing.

misterID
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Re: ID,Izzy looking for your boy MSL via twitta

misterID wrote:
war wrote:

I find it odd that he hasn't spoken to Izzy yet. Izzy fucking Stradlin is trying to get a hold of you and you haven't bothered to get back at him? hmm.

There's no need to make things up that he's dodging Izzy, which isn't tue. Trust me, if Izzy wants to get in touch he knows how.

misterID
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Re: ID,Izzy looking for your boy MSL via twitta

misterID wrote:
Lomax wrote:
misterID wrote:

You should stop now because none of this is true.

Good point. Well argued. smile

There was nothing to argue, man. I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you slung accusations, falsehoods and insults at the same time asking who his source was, assuming it was BBF, saying he has no contacts since Slash is back, no one wants the leaks he has when people wanted them in this very thread.

Monkey was the most dignified in this thread by simply asking him things and he answered.

war
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Re: ID,Izzy looking for your boy MSL via twitta

war wrote:
misterID wrote:
war wrote:

I find it odd that he hasn't spoken to Izzy yet. Izzy fucking Stradlin is trying to get a hold of you and you haven't bothered to get back at him? hmm.

There's no need to make things up that he's dodging Izzy, which isn't tue. Trust me, if Izzy wants to get in touch he knows how.

Now I'm making things up but not msl???? That's rich..Please explain how you know that I made up what I found to be odd lol please remember that his own recent words, on this very same forum and in this same thread, indicated that he had not talked to izzy.

buzzsaw
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Re: ID,Izzy looking for your boy MSL via twitta

buzzsaw wrote:
misterID wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:
misterID wrote:

I can say I've never seen MSL lie, he's always been straight forward with me. And when he was being called a loser, attention whore, I asked for that to be knocked off and it wasn't. I don't see any lies. The dude gave monkey info in this very thread, and knows more than anyone about those mix leaks you guys were discussing. He's a good guy.

I've never seen someone ask when they lied, have an example given, admit the example was true, then ask again when he lied before. If you want to believe the hocus pocus, that's cool. Fool me once, shame on you...

No one gave an example, no one could give an example, he had to offer that he lied to hoarders 12 years ago, and I doubt that was what was meant. And no one complained when those lies got them those first leaks, either...

People want more leaks and are being dicks about it.

This was a thread about Izzy wanting to talk to him. There's a lot irony here.

Nobody gave an example, and then you cite the example i gave. Well done.

buzzsaw
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Re: ID,Izzy looking for your boy MSL via twitta

buzzsaw wrote:

Duplicate post

Re: ID,Izzy looking for your boy MSL via twitta

Lomax wrote:
misterID wrote:

You should stop now because none of this is true.

Good point. Well argued. smile

There was nothing to argue, man.

There was but it is ok. I'll repost it so that you can't just gloss over it.

misterID wrote:

Monkey was the most dignified in this thread by simply asking him things and he answered.



Dignity or a lack thereof aren't valid reasons to overlook an intelligent argument.

Learn to engage the argument not the person.

Honest question, are you a real person or are you a second account by Mister Saint Laurent, Mister ID?

Oh and as promised. Here is the original post:


That's is not a fact. The application of a tense in this case is open to interpretation. This is the perfect metaphor for your modus operandi. You pass on information that could be interpreted multiple ways and once the truth reveals itself you claim one specific point of view on that info is the actual objective point you always intended to make.
It is the same snake oil stick fortune tellers and horoscope readers use.  Your website is full of nutswingers who desperately  want to believe you have an inside track so that they can have more access to the band through you.

Now let's discuss the difference between opinion and fact.

After the Skwerl leaks your behaviour changed drastically. It is almost as if GNR made contact and told you to play ball or get sued. Since then every tidbit you drop makrs gnr seem like gods, axl seem like a saint and you seem like his high priest. You run a nutswingers propaganda site. You delete anything that runs contrary to your nutswinging agenda. Those are facts. We can all observe those points publicly. They're not open to interpretation. That is how facts work.

What we dont know for sure is whether it was the tickets they gave you or the threat of legal action that forced you to erect your propaganda site.  But we all have opinions on that. And that is how opinions work. I'm sure now that I've offered dome examples from your own life that you are starting understand the distinction between opinion and fact.

Either way it doesn't matter now because with the new lineup change you are out of the loop. Your tracks don't matter as much as they once did. Beyond a few hardcoees no one really wants a GNR track that hasn't got Slash and Duff on it. On top of that it would seem your links to the band might be gone. Was BBF your link? Again I don't know the exact facts there. But your behaviour indicates that you are out and so trying to kick up controversy again to manipulate your way back in.

So now we have to watch you clamour for attention again as you try to worm your way back into some kind of power position. You need to feel important and powerful your ego demands it so you will the start the process again and we will watch your pitiful cries for attention and demands for power and authority in this the smallest most insignificant corner of the internet. That is a mixture of an opinion a fact and a future projection. I predict you are going to start kicking up a shit storm looking for attention from GNR again. My theory is that you do that to feel special. My gut feeling is that you will go too far this time and end up in court.

I'm looking forward to watching you make an idiot out of yourself. That is an admission.

misterID
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Re: ID,Izzy looking for your boy MSL via twitta

misterID wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:
misterID wrote:
buzzsaw wrote:

I've never seen someone ask when they lied, have an example given, admit the example was true, then ask again when he lied before. If you want to believe the hocus pocus, that's cool. Fool me once, shame on you...

No one gave an example, no one could give an example, he had to offer that he lied to hoarders 12 years ago, and I doubt that was what was meant. And no one complained when those lies got them those first leaks, either...

People want more leaks and are being dicks about it.

This was a thread about Izzy wanting to talk to him. There's a lot irony here.

Nobody gave an example, and then you cite the example. We'll done.

You didn't give an example. There was no example. He had to literally offer a situation when he lied. Yes, he lied to some hoarders to get leaks which everyone downloaded and supported. There you go.

bigbri
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Re: ID,Izzy looking for your boy MSL via twitta

bigbri wrote:

These days, we should not be arguing about this dude, not with the current state of GNR, but here we are. Just how MSL wants it.

I think this thread should be moved, at the least, as it doesn't belong in the GNR section. I'd lock it, myself.

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