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Isn't it still a statistical fact that whoever wins OH wins the presidency? I've always wanted to see that record get shattered.....it gives OH too much importance.
The states that are solidly blue have built up a strong firewall for any Democratic candidate. That's why I said months ago she's got 240+ walking in the door.
Check out this scenario.
I gave Trump all the toss up states: FL, OH, NC, NV, IA and AZ.
Now IMO there is no way he's going to pick these all up. But even if he did, he's still short. The only way for him to win is to breach one of the democratic stronghold states (WI, MI, PA, VA, CO etc) and THEN pick up all those swings.
What are the odds of him doing that?
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PaSnow wrote:107 votes on a college football message board seems like an adequate sample size.
I will never forget during the 2008 election when we were discussing the results coming in and they called Delaware(or was it NH?) for Obama with literally 12 votes counted. I took a screenshot of CNN's site showing it. Unreal.
lol, I'll have to find that tho. In fairness, DE is a blue state, esp with Joe Biden being from there. That's like me calling Oklahoma for Trump now.
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James Lofton wrote:Isn't it still a statistical fact that whoever wins OH wins the presidency? I've always wanted to see that record get shattered.....it gives OH too much importance.
The states that are solidly blue have built up a strong firewall for any Democratic candidate. That's why I said months ago she's got 240+ walking in the door.
Check out this scenario.
I gave Trump all the toss up states: FL, OH, NC, NV, IA and AZ.
Now IMO there is no way he's going to pick these all up. But even if he did, he's still short. The only way for him to win is to breach one of the democratic stronghold states (WI, MI, PA, VA, CO etc) and THEN pick up all those swings.
What are the odds of him doing that?
He may get Pennsylvania.
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@james @randall I've posted the quotes before. The Obama super majority. I posted the whole debacle where Bohner and Obama were secretly working on the grand bargain and Cantor sabotaged it.
Debunking Obama supermajority myth.
"It's not sexist. It's not Elizabeth Warren-specific," McConnell spokesman Donald Stewart said. "It's any nominee."
Ian Millhiser report:
"Following in the footsteps of Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL), who placed a hold on over 70 of President Obama's nominees last year in order to extort tens of billions of dollars worth of pork for his state, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) threw a similar tantrum yesterday over a mere $50,000. Graham (R-SC) promised to shut down all executive branch and judicial confirmations in the Senate until he gets $50,000 to conduct a study on deepening the Port of Charleston."
As it turns out, the Roadblock Republicans started their work when Democrats recaptured the Senate in 2007, only to redouble their efforts when Barack Obama walked into the Oval Office in 2009.
Back in 2007, former Senate Minority Whip Trent Lott explained the successful Republican strategy for derailing the new Democratic majorities in the House and Senate:
"The strategy of being obstructionist can work or fail. So far it's working for us."
As even Robert Samuelson (no friend of Democrats) acknowledged, "From 2003 to 2006, when Republicans controlled the Senate, they filed cloture 130 times to break Democratic filibusters. Since 2007, when Democrats took charge, they've filed 257 cloture motions." The Senate's own records reveal obstructionism is the new normal for Republicans:
A Standard & Poor's director said for the first time Thursday that one reason the United States lost its triple-A credit rating was that several lawmakers expressed skepticism about the serious consequences of a credit default -- a position put forth by some Republicans. Without specifically mentioning Republicans, S&P senior director Joydeep Mukherji said the stability and effectiveness of American political institutions were undermined by the fact that "people in the political arena were even talking about a potential default," Mukherji said. "That a country even has such voices, albeit a minority, is something notable," he added. "This kind of rhetoric is not common amongst AAA sovereigns."
Michael Grunewald:
"the Republican plot to obstruct President Obama before he even took office, including secret meetings led by House GOP whip Eric Cantor (in December 2008) and Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (in early January 2009) in which they laid out their daring (though cynical and political) no-honeymoon strategy of all-out resistance to a popular President-elect during an economic emergency. “If he was for it,” former Ohio Senator George Voinovich explained, “we had to be against it.” The excerpt includes a special bonus nugget of Mitt Romney dissing the Tea Party."
Lewis blames Obey and the Democrats for the committee’s turn toward extreme partisanship, but he doesn’t deny that GOP leaders made a decision not to play. “The leadership decided there was no play to be had,” he says. Republicans recognized that after Obama’s big promises about bipartisanship, they could break those promises by refusing to cooperate. In the words of Congressman Tom Cole, a deputy Republican whip: “We wanted the talking point: ‘The only thing bipartisan was the opposition.’ ”
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I will never forget during the 2008 election when we were discussing the results coming in and they called Delaware(or was it NH?) for Obama with literally 12 votes counted. I took a screenshot of CNN's site showing it. Unreal.
Haha, it was Maine. And it was THREE votes counted. 3!! Too bad the screen shot link seems to not work anymore.
http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=5113&p=2
My favorite line is a little later in the night they posted the vote count was 17-8 and you posted:
Is a corpse counting those votes? At that rate, it'll be next election season by the time the whole state is counted.
Funny searching for old threads. I searched using "2008" in post title. Some interesting threads came up, one was "Myspace Top 50 Albums of 2008 " lol. Bet we all would've invested into MySpace stock back then. 
Also "Duff Mckagan Doesn't Rule Out Guns N' Roses Reunion - July 2nd 2008" "I Feel 2008 Is the Year" by Saiken (refers to GnR reunion) and I'll put myself out there and own up to my thread, "4 (probably 3) Monster albums of 2008 " of which were U2, Green Day, Metallica and GnR, but I put "GnR (Not!)" I thought CD came out in 2007?! Anyway, I'd say none of which were "Monster" lol. Death Magnetic was alright, i think they were just too past their prime for modern radio & the music industry (CD sales) had changed.
Edit - Geez, our 2008 OFFSEASON thread went 30 pages deep. Wow! http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=1615
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Haha, hey Randall, I just saw the McDonalds fryguy pass by me in a Lexus lol.
"Socialism here we come. Under Barry, the 18 year old fry manager at McDonalds has the same quality of life as the 35 year old manager with a wife and 2 kids"
http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=5113&p=2
j/k
Wonder whatever happened to Gunslinger? Him & another guy with a similar name I always got mixed up. One of them was in Virginia.
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I love seeing the old quotes and predictions, they were all right! We're living in the middle of a socialist utopia today!
Haha, hey Randall, I just saw the McDonalds fryguy pass by me in a Lexus lol.
"Socialism here we come. Under Barry, the 18 year old fry manager at McDonalds has the same quality of life as the 35 year old manager with a wife and 2 kids"
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Yea but the fry guy gets the ES 350, while the manager gets the LS 460 with free Obama phone and gas card.*
Big difference bro.
*Also once Hillary is president we no longer will subsidize gun racks.
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Cramer, did you read this?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 … nald-trump
This is just as scary:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 … anboy.html
Two days before FBI director James Comey rocked the world last week, Rudy Giuliani was on Fox, where he volunteered, un-prodded by any question: “I think he’s [Donald Trump] got a surprise or two that you’re going to hear about in the next few days. I mean, I’m talking about some pretty big surprises.”
Pressed for specifics, he said: “We’ve got a couple of things up our sleeve that should turn this thing around.”
