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Re: Nothin'
James wrote:FlashFlood wrote:The pop, and subsequent slide are predictable. New songs targeted to an artist with a base of x-millions of subscribers will create a huge initial imprint. Everyone listens to the song when they get the notification on their phone, then moves on with their lives.
Just like the other drip feeds, they can't even get a hefty portion of their own subscribers to click on their videos.
GNR have 13.1 million YouTube subscribers
Atlas: 649k views
Nothin' 827k views
About 10-15 of those views are me.
They are an anomaly. Most major acts get more views than subscribers.
While it's nice to get 1-2 songs every other blue moon, this approach doesn't work on any level. For various reasons, it's impossible to get any traction under these circumstances. It would require a highly unlikely incident where one of the songs go viral.
The band doesn't comment no matter what and the fan base tires of the new song(s) within days. With a non interested general public, where can the songs realistically go but down?
They're already disappearing from the Spotify charts.
But Team Brazil and Axl had brilliant marketing plan !
Delay the songs while they're touring and release them 5 months before their next tour date !
Also make sure you use the shit mix job from a guy (Caram) who’s been gone from the band's employment for 2 years !
Ha! It really makes little sense. Release singles in between touring cycles to help sell tickets for the next tour? Are they selling more tickets now because of these two songs? We’ll obviously take what we can get, but it’s puzzling.
And I’m assuming Team Brazil was behind the drone show to promote tickets going on sale for the tour. I’ve also heard there are billboards promoting the two songs in LA. So it’s like they do show signs of life but do nothing with the band to back it up. It’s silent marketing. It would almost make more sense if they did nothing because we know they’re not going all in.
They came out with a music video that no one expected for Perhaps. That was awesome. Then they came out with that AI video for The General. That was, something. They even had lyric videos for other songs. Nothing for these latest songs though? Meanwhile Monsters sits collecting dust. None of it makes much sense to me.
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Re: Nothin'
Bill Brasky wrote:James wrote:Just like the other drip feeds, they can't even get a hefty portion of their own subscribers to click on their videos.
GNR have 13.1 million YouTube subscribers
Atlas: 649k views
Nothin' 827k views
About 10-15 of those views are me.
They are an anomaly. Most major acts get more views than subscribers.
While it's nice to get 1-2 songs every other blue moon, this approach doesn't work on any level. For various reasons, it's impossible to get any traction under these circumstances. It would require a highly unlikely incident where one of the songs go viral.
The band doesn't comment no matter what and the fan base tires of the new song(s) within days. With a non interested general public, where can the songs realistically go but down?
They're already disappearing from the Spotify charts.
But Team Brazil and Axl had brilliant marketing plan !
Delay the songs while they're touring and release them 5 months before their next tour date !
Also make sure you use the shit mix job from a guy (Caram) who’s been gone from the band's employment for 2 years !
Ha! It really makes little sense. Release singles in between touring cycles to help sell tickets for the next tour? Are they selling more tickets now because of these two songs? We’ll obviously take what we can get, but it’s puzzling.
And I’m assuming Team Brazil was behind the drone show to promote tickets going on sale for the tour. I’ve also heard there are billboards promoting the two songs in LA. So it’s like they do show signs of life but do nothing with the band to back it up. It’s silent marketing. It would almost make more sense if they did nothing because we know they’re not going all in.
They came out with a music video that no one expected for Perhaps. That was awesome. Then they came out with that AI video for The General. That was, something. They even had lyric videos for other songs. Nothing for these latest songs though? Meanwhile Monsters sits collecting dust. None of it makes much sense to me.
i just checked all the seat maps for the NA tour. absolute hilarous. they must have sold like 1000 tickets in total so far. the venues are completely empty still. and these mediocre songs won't do shit regarding ticket sales.
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What I don’t get is why they don’t hire a social media person to hype/market this new stuff (songs) to casuals.
This is how you reach people today . It’s almost like they are stuck in the 20th century.
They just don't care. They do the minimum stuff they have to do and everything besides that is just too much work. Vanessa is busy traveling, Fernando is busy sexually harassing women and being a useless bitch anyway. And Axl probably doesn't know they have socials.
Re: Nothin'
What I don’t get is why they don’t hire a social media person to hype/market this new stuff (songs) to casuals.
This is how you reach people today . It’s almost like they are stuck in the 20th century.
Not unbelievable that Axl still lives in a 90s bubble. Nobody to challenge him, nobody to teach him new things. Everybody just tip toeing while he continues to do the same things he did 30 years ago.
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Re: Nothin'
slashsfro wrote:What I don’t get is why they don’t hire a social media person to hype/market this new stuff (songs) to casuals.
This is how you reach people today . It’s almost like they are stuck in the 20th century.
Not unbelievable that Axl still lives in a 90s bubble. Nobody to challenge him, nobody to teach him new things. Everybody just tip toeing while he continues to do the same things he did 30 years ago.
Nobody dares saying anything. I've heard first hand that nobody in the band even dares to tell him they don't want to do the marathon shows. It's Axl who calls the shots on everything and with TB enabling him for years now, nothing will change
Re: Nothin'
What I don’t get is why they don’t hire a social media person to hype/market this new stuff (songs) to casuals.
This is how you reach people today . It’s almost like they are stuck in the 20th century.
They do have both a publicist (they're working with a PR company called the Orel Company) and a separate social media team.
But if the emails found in the court documents for the Kat Benzova case are an indication or a glimpse of how this works, they have to run everything with Fernando first, so they can't do anything without his permission.
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Re: Nothin'
slashsfro wrote:What I don’t get is why they don’t hire a social media person to hype/market this new stuff (songs) to casuals.
This is how you reach people today . It’s almost like they are stuck in the 20th century.
They do have both a publicist (they're working with a PR company called the Orel Company) and a separate social media team.
But if the emails found in the court documents for the Kat Benzova case are an indication or a glimpse of how this works, they have to run everything with Fernando first, so they can't do anything without his permission.
What a sad state of this band, having to run everything by a monkey porn loving loser.
Re: Nothin'
polluxlm wrote:slashsfro wrote:What I don’t get is why they don’t hire a social media person to hype/market this new stuff (songs) to casuals.
This is how you reach people today . It’s almost like they are stuck in the 20th century.
Not unbelievable that Axl still lives in a 90s bubble. Nobody to challenge him, nobody to teach him new things. Everybody just tip toeing while he continues to do the same things he did 30 years ago.
Nobody dares saying anything. I've heard first hand that nobody in the band even dares to tell him they don't want to do the marathon shows. It's Axl who calls the shots on everything and with TB enabling him for years now, nothing will change
I can see that being true, because Duff has implied it in public interviews a few times, saying how physically challenging and tiring has been for him to play the 3-hour shows. He's even made a point that the long shows can be damaging for Axl's voice. Of course he said all that in his familiar diplomatic way and choosing his words carefully so that what he said couldn't be taken as a direct dig at someone.
I can understand Dizzy or Fortus not daring tell Axl about it, but I don't understand why Duff or Slash wouldn't (although Slash probably doesn't mind the long shows anyway). What would Axl do, fire them?
