KV, it does explain some, but it paints Axl as even more of a paranoid type guy than we thought.  Blaming Slash for everything and stuff he didn't even do.

russtcb wrote:

Bono wrote:

I back my argument with common sense. Something you clearly lack. The fact you'll sit on this site and do your best to spin this as though Axl's letter was met with huge positivity is hilarious.  For an example of lack of objectivuty, see your belief that Dizzy refused to attend due to the cost per plate.

I brought up the Dizzy complaint about pricing because Dizzy himself did. I don't know why Dizzy didn't didn't go to the Rock Hall ceremony, nor do I care because I wasn't all that interested in it.

Like I said before. My bet is that within a short while, this whole RRHOF-thingy is gonna be forgotten (as far as the avarage Joe is conserned). I mean, fuck, if the RHCP came to my town, I'd buy a ticket in a heartbeat! And I wouldn't know jack shit that they were just inducted into this RRHOF.

THAT'S the reality of the situation!

Sure some of you die-hard-reunion fans are gonna be still pissed about the "Velvet Revolver feat. Adler/Myles"-performance on this private club going on in Ohio(!). But in a few weeks, GNR is starting a summer tour of Europe with sold out gigs! The RRHOF is NOT the Oscars of the music business! It just isn't! Just because a private company labels something the THE HALL OF FAME, doesn't really mean anything! The RRHOF wanted a specific thing to happen this weekend, they didn't get it! And I'm sure they're gonna suffer financially, because they are not gonna get the licence to air GNR-songs on TV (which is prolly why they played LIVE-clips from MTV during the show. At least that's what I heard) Boo-hoo! NEXT!

Mostly, I've stayed away from this discussion, because it doesen't mean anything to me.

Sure, label me as a nutswinger or whatever "original" thought passes through your brain. The pages here on this topic in the last couple of weeks has been a "last chance" for certain fans to see their wish come true. It didn't! And now you're angry! Or sad. I get that! But for some of you, maybe the time has finally come to either get on the bus, or.... Well you know. It's not a happy ending. But this is what you got.
And if the next album or tour DO suffer as a result of an "insult to the fans" and the band goes downhill from here on and we never hear from Axl again, then THAT'S what happens.

My life still goes on, and so does a lot of people's lives......

buzzsaw wrote:

I'm sure lawyers could have figured out a way to make it work if they would have put an effort into it.  There's a middle ground somewhere.

What? Have a provision that says they can't fire him or have any say in financial matters? That's pretty much what he offered them. On financial benefits the terms seem to have been as fair as in the past.

buzzsaw wrote:

There are other ways of helping them than just getting them off drugs.  There were other ways he could have altered the arrangement without taking complete control of everything.  I don't disagree that something needed to be done; I disagree with what Axl decided to do.

Not really. Either they have equal say or they don't. If they die, which at the time was a perfectly reasonable assumption, he will be stuck with negotiating about business and band matters with a bunch of self serving heirs. Ask Nirvana and the Beatles how fun that can be.

And just because they're junkies doesn't mean they're shooting heroin before a show or are so drunk to not know what they're doing. Basically Goldstein came and told them Axl wanted them to sign over the rights because in their state they couldn't be trusted with the responsibility, probably also followed with a little *wink*wink* from Doug as to what might happen if they didn't.

Sneaky, dickish, manipulative yeah, but if you're gonna sign over the rights to a multi million dollar enterprise just because you're too pussy to take one of Axls semi regular no shows you got it coming.

And that's probably whey they never made a huge fuzz about it in later years. They knew he was right and they knew they'd not been tricked into anything. Pushed for sure, but that's something else entirely. As they say in football, shoulder to shoulder is not a foul.