chicken_dinner wrote:

why 1993? why not when adler left? or izzy (the main songwriter of old gnr)?

what happened in 1993?

the opinions are getting very similar to mygnr and htgth here nowadays LOL.

Adler was never a contributing force in the band.

The bulk of the band was still a band, the same ones who did AFD, Lies, the Illusions & TSI were kickin' in '93. Hell even Izzy did a few shows subbing for Gilby.

The 'band' died in 1993, back when the final show happened in Buenos Aires.

Even though the agreement basically made them employees in 1991, they still had equal shares in the partnership. Somesthing that I could not imagine anyone from the new band has any part of.

They are probably paid for their work in studio and on tour, like salaried employees, but full ownership on every level is W. Axl Rose.

I think the people here who read my posts on a daily basis, know how much I love the new band and want them to succeed. But there's nothing about new GN'R that comes across as a band. Just like nothing with NIN feels like a 'band'.

polluxlm wrote:

buzzsaw wrote:

You must have heard a different version of CD than I have.  There is no killer intro (there's a snoozer intro though), no killer riff, and maybe 1 decent solo.  That's the beauty of art though...people can look at (or listen to) the same piece of art and see (hear) completely different things.

Sure, but there can still be some objectivity to it. I don't know about you and your alignment, but the impression I've gotten is that those most disappointed with the album are the 'classic rock group'. Meaning they have more a problem with the type of music being played than the quality of it.

Not really. I listen a lot of music from NIN remixes and 60s & 70s bands to stoner bands, Dream Theater, BLS, BH, Diana Krall, Nick Cave, Tori Amos, Björk, old blues, grunge... But most of the new music is just not doing it for me. I love Axl's lyrics, love most of his melodies, but the music lacks the quality in most cases. My opinion is based on the leaks.