thanks! its all downliner....we just gotta remember to change it from time to time

as backing vocals though

i'm in agreence with buzzsaw...cuz i dont really understand why a pure singer whould have a guest lead vocalist on 3 tracks of his first album in a decade its just weird to sing backup vocals on your own album

i'm not defensive!

haha j/k its all cool

it may seem like angry, i guess, when the way things went down is described finally...i mean there was alot of crap going on behind the scenes for a long time...still is in fact, and we tried to keep it on the downlow...for obvious reasons...nobody likes drama...yet here we are again in the middle of more of it.

Maybe there were things outta Brody's hands...but stilll a little communication goes a long way..especially people dealingwith the site on a day to day basis...do you know how hard it was for us to keep people informed when we didnt even know what was going on?

i like to know how i got cut out of the whole saga, but whatever thats cool

see thing is that brody to this day feels that RoV is "his" when in fact he had little to nothing to do with the site for a year other than paying hosting costs...now granted that was a huge part of the forum

but being an admin he should have taken into account that we needed him to keep his creditcard clear for payments, and that we needed him to iron out the bugs. as admin there, i had no control over anything and couldnt install any thing to keep the board running smoothly, all i could do was ban people if someone got out of hand

anyway the majority of that board was carried, by myself, dtj, james, backslash and pride & glory....and at the end, a private eye and LLL. so the other board goes offline, right, and we had NOTHING....no word and ignored, pm's, emails, instant messages you name it we tried it, hell i think DTJ even called him and texted him...and it wasnt just me or DTJ or James...BLSPride and BS tried as well....he wouldnt answer any of us....what the fuck were we to do?! we had like nearly a hundred and twenty people coming every day to check us for info...the house the ROV staff built...not the ROV admin.

anyway i'm always up for reconciling but the way brody treated us and you guys as RoV members was bullshit, and we kept it under wraps for a LONG time away from you guys , but even so members were like....um wheres Karma, where's Chat, wheres the fucking smilies....i mean for real...at the end rosesofvelvet.com was a fucking fiasco on all fronts and the staff did their damnedest with a site t hat had an admin who didnt give a shit youwant Rosesofvelvet? well here we are, the people here are the ones who made it all happen folks...hell how many of you got an invite from brody even? thats right, even the staff did the recruiting to get the fantastic membership we have I hope each and every one of you stay to help us get to where we were before....a few thousand posts doesnt make one site better than another....otherwise how did we start ROV in the first place...even the logos Elmir....who made them? and the sound bytes for the intro....i mean cmon, even when dealing with brody to launch the skin you had to turn to DTJ and myself cuz brody again was M.I.A. (and not the singer James always talks about)