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#1851 Re: Guns N' Roses » 12/07/2012 - Bhartiya City, Bangalore, India » 726 weeks ago

oh man. we've broken monkey.

this is a sad day.


seriously tho, people can't see the seeker as a top tune i don't know.. one of townshend & the who's very best. & the lyric really suits axl.

& DLIBYD is one of neil youngs greatest ever songs. & neil wipes the floor w/p much everyone who isn't named bob dylan.

yea, give me that everlasting classic shit ahead of actual shit like CitR or mid-level shit like IRS any day of the week.

#1852 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 726 weeks ago

finally got round to looper.
great fun. coulda been better. kinda false advertising - the looper (looping? :huh:) wasn't really the story.
the story was erratically told tbh. they just shoe-horned either the looper idea onto the plot or vice versa. but the novelty worked, mainly cause it had some cool sci-fi shit & lots of killing.

#1853 Re: The Sunset Strip » Soundgarden Discussion (King Animal out NOW!) » 726 weeks ago

since track-by-track seems to be the way u guys roll i'll join in. mine is a bit more like axlin's than polluxlm's..

Been Away too Long: tip-top fun opener, nice to have them back on this kinda form

Non-State Actor: doesn't really go anywhere after the promising pening. gets a little too soft & boring melodywise. some nice flourishes from cornell & thayil rescue it. lyrics are fun - like the idea of settling for a little bit more than everything. might've been an awesome b-side this, if such things existed anymore sad

By Crooked Steps: awesome. classic SG moment this.

A Thousand Days Before: bit of a non-starter this one. hints of some killer BMF riffage before it immediately drops/slips into less interesting territory & never really pulls back out of the slog. solo is nice but too restrained!

Blood on the Valley Floor: awesome. classic SG. unapologetic slice of Sabbath-y doom grunge.

Bones of Birds: ugh. desperate cornell crapfest. i was worried the album would be like this when the reformation was announced.

Taree: great cornell vocal on this. grows into a bit of a scorcher. good stuff.

Attrition: nice punky riffage & driing pace. could do w/a bit more spite n bite tho. thayil steals the show on this one. just needed a little bit more venom, or maybe confidence/self-belief & it'd be a classic (it;s kinda like they're afraid to push this one where it really needs to go) .

Black Saturday: terrible after the first part. album coulda done w/a groovy little acoustic number but they totally crapped all over this.

Halfway There: another cornell crapfest. the mid-tempo ballad is what broke the band in the first place (DOTU) & this is maybe the weakest, puniest SG have ever been. bar Thayils exploits you couldn't distinguish it from the plethora of crap american soft rock bands.

Worse Dreams: this is more like it. menacing & exciting. chorus could be bigger. it doesn't quite erupt r explode like the awesome intro suggests. thayil absolutely kills it tho, twice. great track.

Eyelid Mouth: brilliant 1-2 this & WD. in fact the albums closing 3 are the best run on the record. this is another vintage SG performance. unapologetic groovy grunge slime. thayil reminding us of his superhero prowess.

Rowing: the only prob w/this one is it's either a little too long or far, far too short. great track & great closer.


so yea, just reiterating what i said. a few duff tracks, some absolute brilliant one's & lots of fun. coulda been better, coulda been a whole lot worse. stellar return. i'd like to see more ambition, more psych & punk spirit across the board on the next one. an album full of Attritions & Blood on the Valley Floor & we'd be getting back to the days when they were a real vibrant, exciting force (i.e. Ultramega thru to BMF).

#1854 Re: Guns N' Roses » 12/07/2012 - Bhartiya City, Bangalore, India » 726 weeks ago

he won't get to get what he's after.

til the day slash dies.

#1855 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2013 » 726 weeks ago

Furbush wrote:

I'm not one to discourage ambition... But, Jesus...

Pretty much anything with Axl singing is gonna make it instantly recognizable to anyone.

the time has come, hell the time has probably passed by, where axl should just 'shut up & sing'. that is one of the biggest wastes, the years w/o his voice. look at rod stewart for example, amazing voice & he used it & still does & still people get off on it.
axl's got an amazing voice but he refused to use it. maybe he couldn't due to his head but it still doesn't make the wasted yrs any easier.
he should have a far bigger catalogue of great vocal performances behind him. but his reluctance to do anything robbed him & everyone of his voice. he should just shut up & sing & stop worrying so much about control.
he should do this & he should do that.. he should he should he should!! the fucking waster!

Furbush wrote:

Using that rationale, Velvet Revolver would have never landed a record deal, and would still be playing clubs in Los Angeles... It's like saying VR was/is useless without Axl.

well no. in the context of GnR only, you put slash on the record & the hype & interest swell. for all intents and purposes slash is identifiable as GnR as axl is. it's easier to sell/promote his image & the GnR brand than it is VR or his solo work or GnR w/o him. it just is. it's countless the amount of times said, 'it's not really GnR w/o slash'. you get all those people & dissenters back w/slash on the record.

tbh there's no justifiable reason why slash isn't in the band. personality clash aside, this line-up especially. the common denominator to the million 'what if's' is slash. you put his name on the record it just generates much more interest.

#1857 Re: Guns N' Roses » 12/07/2012 - Bhartiya City, Bangalore, India » 726 weeks ago

There's no better songs on CD than the seeker.
DLIBYD is as great as anything GnR ever did but yea Axls voice doesn't do it justice.


I'm assuming the reasons axl plays these songs are 2fold: he identifies w/the lyrics more than he does say Perfect Crime r Garden of Eden; they're easier for him to sing than prostitute or ITW.

#1858 Re: Guns N' Roses » Hindustan Times Interview With Axl Rose » 726 weeks ago

Axl. & management. & any band member who has alluded to new material/the vault.

I don't mean they do it maliciously but they have lied about it.

I'm not saying it to be negative I'm saying it simply from looking at the evidence. The evidence contradicts their 2000 good intentions when they talk about new material. There is nothing & no sign of anything but some of them say there is. Y'know? :confused:

#1859 Re: Guns N' Roses » Hindustan Times Interview With Axl Rose » 726 weeks ago

Axlin12 wrote:

I think people that got slammed about speculating about the vault are being vindicated.

Axl has literally jack fucking shit up his sleeve. He's got nothing. It's over (in terms of musical output for now).


thank you.


yea a few people got surly when i kept harping on about this but really all the evidence tells us is there is nothing in the pipeline & no motivation to get shit done.
anyone who believes otherwise is taking the word of liars & hypocrites as a basis for a futile hope.

if axl had anything to say or release, he'd find a way to get it out. but he quite obviously doesn't care and/or doesn't have anything to offer.

#1860 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2013 » 726 weeks ago

Axlin12 wrote:

Alot of great posts by Furbush. I'm gonna be passing out Karmas.

And as for what John said about "forget radio", that's not the answer.

Yes and no. They still need radio. Look at Soundgarden. They went out and did a song for the casuals "Live To Rise", released it as a single, attached it to The Avengers soundtrack, and shipped it out the door for the masses who wanted more Black Hole Sun and Room A Thousand Years Wide-type songs. Then they turned around and seperated their actual King Animal album from the whole thing.

Brilliant move on their part. The casuals got their hit single to put the band out there, but the diehards got their "true sound" album.

Axl should be taking notes. Especially considering they just got back together after a 15-year break.

Axl could easily record a GN'R-ized "Are You With Me" track, or maybe even something really Whitesnake-cheesy with his vocals, ship it out the door and attach it to the next Michael Bay-flick, and it move like hot cakes on iTunes and stay #1 on rock radio for months, as long it's promoted.

Then turn around and drop Chinese II in stores and it be a fucking NIN/Praxis/Sex Tapes-album with his vocals on it, and it still move.

Look to Cornell, for I didn't believe in him, but he shall lead us.--Axlin

firstly, 'the masses' weren't waiting on a new SG single. nobody gives a toss about them bar a random assortment of old guys & a few younger people interested in a dead genre's history.


on topic: what is it you want from GnR? it seems like you want them to reach for/attain mass popularity again.
that shit means fuck all to me.

all i want is music that is worthy of the name GnR, music that lives up to that name.
y'know me, it's all about the music, man. wink

imo one of the worst things they could do is try & court casual/popular audience. if it happens by accident that's fine but don't go out w/the idea 'oh we gotta make this amount of songs playable on radio'. that'd just be another betrayal of the original ideas.
i mean it was bad enough Axl chasing trends w/the bulk of CD but at least it was some kind of honest endeavour on his part which has always been the case in GnR's music. if they start actively trying to build material for a pop audience it'd be another crime against the name.


nobody needs radio. the internet is the radio. soundcloud the fuck out of a new tune if you want it heard. (of course axl doesn't want anything heard so it's really ALL moot, if he even has anything to be heard).


the ONLY way GnR will sell records is if Slash is on it. that way it'll get promoted & get exposed. i seriously doubt even if CD or the vault had a song as catchy as SCoM it would breakthru. quality doesn't sell itself to a popular audience. hype sells. there is no hype w/o Slash's name attached.

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