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#181 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 119 weeks ago
I was praying for Oklahoma. If I could only choose one unreleased GNR song to hear before I die....it's Oklahoma.
Beggars can't be choosers.....
Oklahoma for me too because it seems like one of the few songs that seems connected to a culturally significant event and not the usual complaints about Step, the old band breakup etc.
One more thing....
If they do exactly what they did with Absurd and Hard School....zero promotion...they will get the same results no matter how good or bad the songs are.
They need real videos, maybe a performance on a late night show, and interviews talking about the songs.
I'd love to see them properly push material like in the old days once before we're dead. You have to go back to your teenage memories to imagine them as a properly functioning band.
Why do they not do this? They are wasting Slash and Duff in this capacity. Especially Slash. Axl doesn't want to do interviews and shit. Fine have Slash do them. I don't think they even need a video, a high quality live version of the songs that you dump onto their youtube account should suffice anyway. Some of this stuff is so simple and easy and they refuse to do them for whatever reason.
#182 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 119 weeks ago
The problem also is that some of those directors from the 70s-90s are getting old and may die off or just stop making movies. Scorscese is 80. And after they are gone, who the hell is going to be taking up that baton? Aside from Christopher Nolan (who I don't like that much). I can't think of many directors, ones with US affiliations anyway. I guess Spike Lee is another one but he is 66.
Basically if you want to find interesting stuff released in 2023, you gotta actually dig. I'm sure there are interesting movies released (talking "mid-budget" ones at least and not totally indie). They are just probably not going to be playing at your local cinema or be well known. And that's a shame because even as late as the 2000s, there was an actually variety of films that weren't basic CGI sequels and or deriative remakes and were pretty creative.
#183 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 119 weeks ago
Can totally see Axl having a kid in his mid 60s and totally ruining all of TB’s plans
Pffft....DeNiro is having another kid at 79 and Pacino just got his girlfriend pregnant at 83. He's got some catching up to do if he wants to catch those guys.
#184 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 119 weeks ago
There is one other thing and it's two huge IFs.
If there are tracks, in some sort of demo form from 94-96 and new vocals can be recorded for them, they could do the lost 94-96 album.
The only other trick up their sleeve is what Slash talked about last year, recording an actually new record with him, Duff and Slash.
The CD vault, us hardcores want it - it's only worth tapping into when Axl retires from touring/dies.
I don't think he has anything to say or just doesn't want to record new music. I mean he's done nothing in terms of recording new music or even going into the studio since I don't recall when. When was the last time you read he was in the studio recording stuff (even rumors), I mean maybe the late 2000s.
#185 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 120 weeks ago
I remember Thayil talking about this situation with Soundgarden before the reunion....how it dawned on him one day how they had ignored their own "brand" for so long that generations were passing them by without really knowing anything about them.
It's why they almost immediately released a new GH/best of compilation to get things started...among other things.
GNR pushed an old GH disc they had previously told fans to boycott.
It's all fucked up....every which way but loose.
Aside from the obvious garbage management that will have no idea what to do with the material if/when he dies, the main problem is this: they don't have enough material for another GH/compilation album to restore the brand. I mean they can't just put out Guns N' Roses GH 1995-2015 or whatever.
And that's his problem for only releasing one album in 30 years. There is no other carrot to dangle that will move the needle back. Late 80s live stuff? Should have been released w/the Appettite giant box set. Ditto 90s, except it should have been released with Illusions. I'd be interesting in maybe a pro shot 2001 vegas show but that aint moving the needle in terms of reinvigorating fan interest or spearheading releasing material (such as deluxe albums/outtakes) that will just help restore the brand.
If they ever end up releasing some Chinese leftovers album + outtakes/different versions of songs. It'll just be the swan song /bookend for the band. There won't be several live albums or anniversary editions of stuff to come.
#186 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 120 weeks ago
There's one point in the timeline where it might have happened....the spark to potentially ignite it anyways....
2001
He really wanted the album out at this point in the timeline. It's finished...and the Village Sessions back this up.
The label should've just let him release the goddamn thing. It wouldn't have hurt anything. Its release would've opened up two possibilities....
1. It's a success...couple decent hits...decent album sales...and new GNR gets a run similar to Audioslave as we enter the 2000s. As we get closer to the end of the decade, he gets new GNR out of his system and is ready to move on(reunion).
2. Chinese Democracy is a huge bomb... briefly becomes a joke. People listen, laugh, and then move on. Axl moves on as well... opening the door to the obviously inevitable reunion.
The label benefits from either option.
Having said all that....if he truly wanted the record out in 2001.....why not go get an A list manager to negotiate its release?!?
Yeah, it had to be 2001 or at worst 2002. They were riding high then. He had come out of the hermit cave and showed up for several shows (Vegas, RIO) and gotten back into the public eye. He had enough of a cache built with the label that he could ride out the bomb/disappointment. And there's enough interest there in the band/what he was doing.
He's basically his own worst enemy at that point. And having a beggar on (Goldstein at that point) was counterproductive. Because they wouldn't tell the truth to his face. If you get it out also you don't blow those extra millions tinkering in the studio or whatever he did. In retrospect, Niven leaving was one of the downfalls along with Izzy. He just wasted a lot of YEARS doing nothing aside from the occasional money grab tours.
OT but I've always felt that if they released If the World earlier like in 2001 or what and put it on a film, it would be a decent hit or get the public talking about them/him. Body of Lies in 2008 or 2007 didn't really work because at that point the album and band were a joke.
#187 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 120 weeks ago
I still haven't watched one of those Wick movies. It does look ridiculous. I should at least try the first film...they are constantly pushing them on Tubi/Amazon.
Go with the first Wick film. It's storyline based and less ridiculous than the ones that follow. It's basically a dark neo-noir with a moderate amount of fight scenes. It's not basically just a setup for a bunch of kills.
I forgot Heat! She's pretty good in that but it's a really small role.
That's actually my favorite side story in Heat. And she makes it work. Her storyline hits the apex at the end /last 20 mins. And it works beautifully for me. It wouldn't work if she didn't make you feel that there was some connection with her character and Vincent Hanna. He probably has a closer relationship with her than he does his wife.
#188 Re: The Garden » The Wrestling thread » 120 weeks ago
Neemo wrote:Marty Janetty... I don't know his story at all
Considered the more talented rocker...only cares about drugs..blows his opportunity to be a solo star like Michaels.... does more drugs...his daughter came back into his life as an adult and he might have had an affair with her....and he witnessed a murder.
I think that covers it.
Did he witness it or did he commit the murder? I've read he killed the guy. Oh as an addon, he kept on getting rehired by the WWE in different decades (90s, 2000s) despite being a gigantic druggie/screwup. Think about this: Michaels did a shit ton of drugs in the 90s and managed to remain employed. Jannety managed to somehow do worse than that.
I remember he won the IC title in 1993 on Raw and somehow managed to totally piss that away pretty quickly. He was in his prime too.
#189 Re: The Sunset Strip » Most Recent Movie You've Seen » 120 weeks ago
Speaking of choreographed fights...this might be the best/worst example....
I love the Mission Impossible series....but holy shit.
That's more like a dance than a fight. Nobody is getting hurt....and nobody would be walking straight or looking pretty after enduring that much pain.
Most realistic scene in that sequence is Ilsa shooting him in the face when she walks down...which is something someone in that dicey situation would do.
I know it's also not realistic to have Cruise and Co. walking around with black eyes, busted lips, and limping throughout the movie....but there has to be a middle ground.
These types of scenes make movies feel more like video games.
They are not really realistic fight scenes at all. Those aren't the worst ones though. The 1 vs 10 people with only one weapon or two are the damned worst ones (they aped that from that one scene from Oldboy w/ the hammer). Most of those modern action movies are glorified video games. John Wick mows down 30-40 bad guys. Great. Too bad it gets boring after a while. Or the other type of movie is the shitty CGI fest, replete with crappy jokes.
Brothers - Natalie Portman film....her husband is assumed killed in action in Afghanistan and she starts getting close to his loser ex convict brother.
It's pretty good....but I can't stand Tobey Maguire...in anything.
Portman was on fire in the mid-late 2000s....so it's unfortunate that she didn't pick better films at the time. She needed more Black Swans and V for Vendettas and less No Strings Attached.....
I think I may have seen this I'm not sure. Portman's problem was that the Star Wars stuff basically set her up for life and she could whatever she wanted to do. Looking up her imdb stuff, that appears to be the case. She just was in a lot of different stuff, some of it mainstream, a lot of it not.
I kind of respect her more in that case. She really could have been in more mainstream films if she wanted to.
#190 Re: Guns N' Roses » How do you feel about CD potentially being the last GNR album? » 120 weeks ago
Yeah, there's not enough rockers on CD and it gets old listening to some dude complain about his issues song after song.
