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#2201 Re: Guns N' Roses » If the Skwerl » 901 weeks ago
There are also people that claim to love the album that were going to love it even if it was just Axl taking a shit (which some would argue is exactly what it is), so what is your point?
I already made it, and your right, I can think of a few forum dwellers who would have said they liked it no matter what it sounded like.
#2202 Re: Guns N' Roses » i'm back » 901 weeks ago
I'm talking about the harmonies on the "ay-oh" part.
#2203 Re: Guns N' Roses » If the Skwerl » 901 weeks ago
You are entitled to this opinion. You're wrong, but you're entitled to the opinion. YOU might be missing something without it, but the rest of the world isn't missing anything. It is not even amongst the best GnR music ever made, so how can it be amongst the best ever? That's fanboy shit. Get real - people don't care for the album because it isn't very good. Not because they hate Axl or want Slash back or any other retarded reason thrown out by people that just don't want to accept that while they love the album, most people don't even like whatever they've heard from it.
Step back and look at it objectively. Is the record company, who knows way more about the music industry than you could ever dream of knowing, going to walk away from a great album out of spite? Hell no, ALL they care about is money, so if CD was some super great album, they would have backed it regardless of what Axl did knowing that great music by Axl Rose as GnR is going to sell.
Who the fuck are you to tell anyone their opinion is wrong?
Olorin wrote:So David Gimour's solo career is just a flop?
I think his entire career is a flop.
Aye Buzzsaw, your entitled to your opinion of course blah blah blah...
#2204 Re: Guns N' Roses » If the Skwerl » 901 weeks ago
Olorin wrote:monkeychow wrote:I agree. It's such a shame cos I honestly think it's great material.
But I think it's treated unfairly by the average person who hears it because of the controversy surrounding the Axl/Slash fued, the use of the same name for a new band, the wait, the riots of the past, the media's love/hate relationship with Axl, the others who've come and gone, and I guess in general what Duff famousy refered to as "all the fucking shit".
There's a host of opinions on all those topics, but in my mind, it's sad that amongst all that, how brilliant these songs are is often drowned out.
If i imagine if i'd never heard any of these tracks, and I think my life would be very different, they've really touched and inspired me at times, and whatever else happens, I'm always going to be thankful for that.
Fuck yeah. But if the second album drops from the sky, it should be met with more grounded and realistic hype and expectations than the "mythical Chinese Democracy", and get a fairer hearing out over all. If that album has material equal in quality to CD and they actually work it and promote it, to make it a success, I think some people who ignorantly dismissed CD will find themselves revisting it.
I didn't "ignotantly dismiss" CD - if I did, I wouldn't like TWAT so much. The album sucks. It's a logistical nightmare on every single level. The songs are mixed poorly, overproduced, cluttered, choppy, and lack any kind of flow to them. The booklet is possibly the worst booklet in the history of music. There are a lot of valid resons for disliking the album. Don't assume people just "ignorantly dismissed" CD if they don't like it. All that does is show that while people can list valid reasons why they don't like it, you struggle to list valid reasons why they should.
Hark at you, I wouldnt ever make a list of why people should like any fucking thing whatsoever. People are entitled to like or dislike Chinese Democracy, there are plenty of people who gave the album a whirl and didnt like it, thats fine by me.
I'm just commenting on the fact that there are people out there who dismissed CD without even hearing a note because its cool to hate on Axl, bash new guns and CD and basically jump on the bandwagon. Or if they never "jumped on the bandwagon", many general music fans and potential listeners could simply have heard a lot of negative things about the album and just never thought it was worth giving it a try.
#2206 Re: GNRevolution Madness » GnREvolution T.V. Madness - Round 1, Battle 25 » 901 weeks ago
He-Man
#2207 Re: Guns N' Roses » Story about a fan talking with Axl » 901 weeks ago
Bucket is one of the best guitarists in the world, anyone knocking his talent and contribution to GNR is nothing more than a fool.
#2208 Re: Guns N' Roses » i'm back » 901 weeks ago
I think the "ay-oh" bits sound really cool when you hear them clearly.
He sounds like Freddie, and the way they loop that sample throughout the song is so Queen-esque 
Cool as Feck!
The RockBand recording that was posted without the lead guitar lets you hear a really mean rhythm section under the main solo, its fucking great, made me love it even more 
#2209 Re: Guns N' Roses » GNR Chat Room » 901 weeks ago
Could you get 100 users, mabye 50 is more realistic? I'd pay for a year even if I dont use it, not a huge fan of chatrooms, but not opposed either. Theres always the chance of having a "guest" speaker 
I often wondered, does this site cost you guys money to run?
I've seen other forums fall apart over money issues, and others asking users for donations and running adverts etc.
#2210 Re: Guns N' Roses » If the Skwerl » 901 weeks ago
russtcb wrote:Its much easier to jump on the "CD Sucks Bandwagon" now that things have played out the way they have.
I agree. It's such a shame cos I honestly think it's great material.
But I think it's treated unfairly by the average person who hears it because of the controversy surrounding the Axl/Slash fued, the use of the same name for a new band, the wait, the riots of the past, the media's love/hate relationship with Axl, the others who've come and gone, and I guess in general what Duff famousy refered to as "all the fucking shit".
There's a host of opinions on all those topics, but in my mind, it's sad that amongst all that, how brilliant these songs are is often drowned out.
If i imagine if i'd never heard any of these tracks, and I think my life would be very different, they've really touched and inspired me at times, and whatever else happens, I'm always going to be thankful for that.
Fuck yeah. But if the second album drops from the sky, it should be met with more grounded and realistic hype and expectations than the "mythical Chinese Democracy", and get a fairer hearing out over all. If that album has material equal in quality to CD and they actually work it and promote it, to make it a success, I think some people who ignorantly dismissed CD will find themselves revisting it.
