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#231 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 109 weeks ago
James, that Beatles track sounds like a trip:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_of_Light
Hopefully It comes out. That and the super long version of “Helter Skelter.”
I read the average life span of an American male is about 75. Obviously people are living longer but that still means that in about 25 years, all of GNR and many of the first generation fans are statistically likely to have perished.
How many fans already died before the storage locker leaks? How many would have been so damned happy to have heard that material in the 17/18 years it sat around?
#232 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 109 weeks ago
What do you mean by "not let them shine"? Seems to me he let them do pretty much whatever they wanted, then he decided what went where. For me Robin, BH, Bumble etc. all shine when they contribute a great solo.
The problem is he almost never releases anything. Maybe that's what you mean?
Exactly. So many great songs that they worked on, like “Going Down,” would be excellent additions to GNR’s discography (even as b sides to singles) but we only know of them through leaks.
#233 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 109 weeks ago
There was an interview with or quote from someone who asked Axl in the late 1990s why he didn’t just launch a solo career. He said he had fought too hard for the GNR name.
But GNR is now effectively his solo band. He never understood how the combination of people and ideas is what gave GNR its power.
The storage locker tracks show that he was basically overseeing a really experimental (if really expensive) art rock project. He turned all these brilliant musicians loose and they came up with incredible stuff. Pitman, Bucket, all of them stepped up to the plate and delivered home runs.
He seems to really admire these other musicians but can’t go so far as to let them shine on actual recordings. They get their solos on stage but those moments are heard fleetingly.
What is up with the disconnect?
#234 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 110 weeks ago
The problem with TB potentially waiting for Axl’s death to release any material is that in the meantime GNR’s legacy is being driven into the ground.
Tom Petty and Prince may have been past their hit-making prime when they died but both were still producing new music, touring, and showing an interest in their work as well as their fans. If I remember correctly, Prince’s last release was a 3-CD set that accompanied a hit-and-run club tour with an all-woman band. The man did not know how to slow down. He still had a promising future ahead of him. Ditto Tom Petty.
GNR is frozen like a woolly mammoth in permafrost. No attempt to expand on the legacy, even out of pride.
#235 Re: Guns N' Roses » How do you feel about CD potentially being the last GNR album? » 110 weeks ago
We might yet be surprised by “The General” and the other tracks we have not yet heard. There could be some real masterpieces there.
What we have gotten from the storage locker could still revitalize the shows: “Atlas,” “Perhaps,” crap, Duff could have his own instrumental bass solo segment by doing “Devious Bastard.”
Yeah, we are desperate and/but the band should be, too.
Remember the Groupon offers for discount GNR tickets in 2011 or 2012? We are swiftly heading back there by the day.
#236 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 110 weeks ago
U2’s reinvention/return to the classic style actually came in 2000 with “Beautiful Day” and an album full of hits like “Elevation” from the “Tomb Raider” movie. Fast forward two years and they give an emotional 9/11 tribute at their Super Bowl performance which many consider the best Super Bowl show ever.
An inner ear monitor recording of that “Think About You” rendition was circulating by the end of the 2002 tour. Axl sounds terrible on it. It probably felt like a fun throwback idea to him at the time, but in execution it frigging died on the vine.
Unless they do something imaginative like the AfD-in-full idea I threw out there as a Hail Mary Pass, they will be right back to 2002-levels of attendance at concerts: A few successes in big markets but otherwise curtains cordoning off whole sections of seating like I saw 21 years ago.
Bring on some new leaks to force the band’s hand.
#237 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 110 weeks ago
Scabbie wrote:Arguably velvet revolver did A better job of finding a mor modern gnr sound
Yep, especially the first album. Contraband has aged much much better than CD has.
I can still put it on and listen from start to finish and thoroughly enjoy it all of it, even the lesser songs.
While CD certainly has its moments as an album, the lows on there are pretty bad and I find it difficult to listen all the way through these days.
If Axl could put his ego aside, and considering the state of his voice, which Velvet Revolver songs do you think he could perform really well on this tour?
Even one or two would show the world that he has truly made peace with Duff and Slash, refresh the set list, and give fans something exciting to look forward to.
#238 Re: Guns N' Roses » How do you feel about CD potentially being the last GNR album? » 110 weeks ago
If ticket sales don’t heat up by the time the tour begins — and at this rate there is no reason to expect they will — they had better reassess the unreleased material. In the absence of any interviews or other promotion they are going to face acres of empty seats.
Considering how leaks seem to have spurred the band/Axl to action in the past, this is a really good time for CD2 or other material to drop.
#239 Re: Guns N' Roses » If GNR releases nothing in 2023, is this the end for you? » 111 weeks ago
Meanwhile, spotted this ...
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 17, 2023
SLASH JUMPS ONSTAGE WITH DOROTHY TO PERFORM “GIFTS FROM THE HOLY GHOST” AT HER SOLD-OUT TROUBADOUR SHOW IN LOS ANGELES
VIDEO PREMIERES TODAY, MAY 17TH
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#240 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2023 Tour Dates » 111 weeks ago
https://www.ticketmaster.com/guns-n-ros … ist/735218
I didn't check every venue but at several it's so empty.....you can buy blocks of 8 tickets in the row of your choice.
If one of these shows were today, it'd be verging on a private concert.
Next tour will probably be residencies and festivals.
Not just entire rows but on some nights practically entire sections. It’s Spinal Tap-level disinterest.
Crazy idea, but they could pull it off and get asses into chairs:
Announce that they will do Appetite in full, like Pink Floyd did with Dark Side in 1994, U2 did with The Joshua Tree a few years before Covid, etc.
Doesn’t matter that they do much of it already. Advertise that they will play Appetite, in order, at every show. No real extra work for the band and a concept that the world will understand in one sentence.
Lazy? Sure. But they need to pull a rabbit out of a hat and putting in the real work of releasing a new album seems beyond them.
