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#2531 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tales Of The Bumblefoot : An Exclusive Interview With Ron Thal » 909 weeks ago
Olorin wrote:But post CD, some good things have happened in the last 6 months
I don't wanna insult you, but... what?
Well I enjoyed Chinese Democracy, Axls venture online, the Spinner interview, 2 Tommy interviews, Brains interview, 2 Bumblefoot interviews - I dont have a playstation but I know a lot of the fans enjoyed the Rockband thing. Are they not some good things?
Things could be a lot better, but they could have been a hell of a lot worse.
I remember 2002-2006...
#2532 Re: GNRevolution Madness » GnREvolution Movie Madness - Discussion and Results Thread » 909 weeks ago
^^^ What he said.
Just noticed on the side there, looks great.
#2533 Re: The Sunset Strip » What Are You Listening To? » 909 weeks ago
Scraped
#2534 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot guest on Hannity (Fox News) » 909 weeks ago
russtcb wrote:Olorin wrote:Or mabye they are getting his face out there as the lead guitarist of GN'R in an attempt to familiarise him and its the beginnings of a new push to work the album.... I have a good feeling about June for GN'R juicys.
I would love for you to be right!
Also, anyone got a link to any vid of this?
I can't find a link anywhere. I have it here at home on my DVR. I'm sure it'll hit the net eventually. I checked the Hannity page on Fox News and they have Monday nights "panel" on there, but not Tuesday yet.
I don't know or think it's a conscious effort to "make" Ron familiar to the public as the lead guitarist of GNR. But he is gaining some exposure on his own here. Good for him. He seems comfortable and capable of handling such a role. Of course he's got a LONG way to go to reach the level of some other guitarists. And obviously a little assistance would sure help. But I'd say Ron has become at least the 3rd most known member of the band to date, sorry Dizzy Reed. Again, not that that's saying a lot, but that's an accomplishment for only being in the band for 3 years.
I even forget Dizzy exists sometimes, I would say Ron and Tommy are the guys next in line behind Axl for being known members of GN'R.
#2535 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tales Of The Bumblefoot : An Exclusive Interview With Ron Thal » 909 weeks ago
Great points Olorin. I think people read too much into things. And that's fine. Regardless of who loves the album, wants a reunion, whatever the case may be. We're all enormous fans and want to be in the know and when information doesn't come our way the speculation runs wild. I know many people here say and believe that it is Axl and a bunch of hired guns. I also know a lot of people outside the GNR universe feel that way. But I don't think the so called "hired guns" feel that way. They feel they are a band and do their best to give that impression. It's hard when so many people are trying to tell you that's not the case. Just like all the expectations Axl has from keeping the GNR name, these guys get for being replacements. Ron, and the others, desperately want to get out there and make a name for themselves.
And unfortunately, for one reason or a hundred, we HAVE gotten information in the past and it hasn't come to fruition. I'm sure Axl didn't write his open letter to the fans with the intention of dissappointing everyone and not making good on any of it. I'm sure over the years when every year a band member was saying how the album was going to come out they weren't pulling our leg. Or when they say we hope to tour, it's not because they're being kept in the dark and have no idea. It's quite possible they know what's going on but they don't want to say what the "plan" is for fear that the "plan" won't go through and then they'll get the backlash from the fanbase. We overanalyze everything to the 10th degree. We're passionate fans, and when things are going good we'll be extremely supportive. But when the going gets tough, we'll be the first ones to voice our displeasure in every which way. And I know the bad times have severely outweighed the good times over the years, but we can't change that.
In the end we're going to continue to speculate because that's what we've become best at over the years, and that's what message boards are for. Hopefully there'll be far more rejoicing in the future, I just wish we could stop reading TOO far into things. At least look at things from both sides. I know that's an impossible task for some, but it's really not that hard to do.
I'm as aware as anyone that GN'Rs history in the last 10 years has given rise to the cynicism that is found on the forums, and rightly so. They have absolutely shat on the fanbase many, many times.
But post CD, some good things have happened in the last 6 months and I think some people are being a bit premature with writing off the possibilities that more good things will happen this year. If in another 6 months there is still a wall of silence, then I'll believe that things have gone absolutely tits up and GN'R fans can probably just forget about any hopes they have.
#2536 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tales Of The Bumblefoot : An Exclusive Interview With Ron Thal » 909 weeks ago
James pretty much said it.
Olorin, I see your point, and not you specifically, but I see alot of these fans with that same argument, that are confusing "it's all about the music" with "stick my head in the sand, and still pretend like GN'R are still going to come back and rule the world after three failed attempts (2002, 2006, 2008)".
If you're burnt out on these discussions, frankly I don't blame you, but "dark, the future is" to pardon a Yoda-ism.
In the world of GN'R, no news = bad news, always has, and right now there's absolutely no news, and a failed album. Fans are naturally curious about what the next move is, and the reunion people only are on a reunion, because it's the only salvation for GN'R that they see, the one they knew. Personally I think the most likely move is Axl's gonna go dark for awhile, again, and come back with a new album and a new lineup of GN'R somewhere down the road, and try it all over again.
Well my blind optimism tells me the next installment of this "double" album wont be far away and Axl's "same bat time, same bat channel" comment is still relevant. I just think he is talking it down to protect it from the burden of expectation that cursed CD.
I honestly think his comment about promotional things being intentionally planned for later on down the line was true, I think it has been a smart move to just let this "$15 million, 15 years in the making" sensationalism die down and bring some much needed ordinariness to the album. I'm hearing more comments on the radio and reading in blogs online that "chinese democracy is actually not that bad" or words to that effect. I think its becoming less cool to hate on it and its its been brought back down to earth that its just another album. I think thats a much healthier environment to start making your moves in.
#2537 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tales Of The Bumblefoot : An Exclusive Interview With Ron Thal » 909 weeks ago
Interesting that your last few posts in this thread are ranting against the types of people who actually listen to this record.
One type I suppose, and why is it interesting?
I can turn off my computer right now, walk outside the door and breathe some "fresh air", but it still doesn't change the fact Joe and Jill Public don't give a flying fuck about any of this and the people who do care post on these boards.
http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=6525
I've already asked you all about this, and for all the music in the world and all the music in your collections nobody really posts elsewhere. I know there is many a band in my collection that I care about, buy the albums and keep a heads up for tour dates - but thats as far as it goes. I dont follow the forums, nor do I care much for anything really other than the albums and tours. Thats relevant for all you guys and it goes for the majority of people who bought the album, they dont come near the forums. So to say the only people who care about the album post on these boards is BS.
Oh, and I don't think anyone is "worried". People just like discussing this stuff on these communities. I sure as hell aint worried. I'm more interested in the free song M.I.A, is leaking in a few days than I am any GNR non news, but that doesn't mean I cant post about this shit.
"Worried" was directed at Russ, not that he said he was worried -
"And while I do not think the band "owes" me anything, I sure would like to know if I've got anything to look forward to."
I was just giving an example of Joe Public who loves the album, but doesnt have any real lingering thoughts about whats next, I just think thats probably the right way. I know its the way I treat all the other bands I like.
And of course you can post about all this, I'll be here to ponder it and chime in - plus bitch and bash when its called for 
But the doom and gloom has reached theatrical levels at times lately and I sometimes find myself swept up in it, usually when I'm depressed and dont have much to do. But when I'm happy and living an active lifestyle, I just find I dont have much time or interest to pick the bones and over analyse everything. My interest in GN'R becomes nearly all about the music and my main concern is what cd to throw on a turn up loud.
I know everyone isnt like me, but I do feel some people, who I sometimes imagine beating the ground in dispair and howling about the injustice and cruelty GN'R fans suffer at the hands their beloved band -would benefit greatly from logging off and finding something better to do 
#2538 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tales Of The Bumblefoot : An Exclusive Interview With Ron Thal » 909 weeks ago
How much would be be worried about something to look forward to if you wernt on the forums every day?
I met my friend the other day for the first time in over a year, he is a big rock fan and GN'R fan. But he doesnt have the internet and wouldnt know how to turn on a computer, nor does he care.
He said "oh by the way, that new Guns N'Roses album is fucking amazing, I wish it had a few heavier songs but its still shit hot. Are they going to tour?"
I said, "I dunno, I know there is no tour dates announced yet or anything..."
He says " Well when they do, we're fucking goin!!"
And that was that, no bitching about the injustice of it all, just a shrug of the shoulders and on to the next topic of conversation.
#2539 Re: Guns N' Roses » Bumblefoot guest on Hannity (Fox News) » 909 weeks ago
Or mabye they are getting his face out there as the lead guitarist of GN'R in an attempt to familiarise him and its the beginnings of a new push to work the album.... I have a good feeling about June for GN'R juicys.
#2540 Re: Guns N' Roses » Tales Of The Bumblefoot : An Exclusive Interview With Ron Thal » 909 weeks ago
If it wasnt for the internet he would not be so cautious, they dont say anything cause of the way its thrown back at them. If Axl was your friend and you read the shit thrown back in his face on the forums, dont you think you would keep your cards close to your chest to save the fucking hassle if things dont work out the way you hope?
It can still be a band, even though there is the obvious leader and main man in the band. Last I checked there was more people than Axl Rose who made Chinese Democracy - Shacklers, Riad, Sorry and Scraped for example are not exactly bread and butter for Axl, if it wasnt for the other guys those songs wouldnt exist.
Its up to the interviewer how these things pan out as well, Brain and Tommy managed to give great interviews that were full of cool information for the fans.
Why was that? Because the interviewers listened to the album and asked them about the songs and the making of them. Thats what I'm interested in, and I want to know more about the songs and how they came together. A tour will happen when it fucking happens, do you honestly think Bumblefoot is going to announce a tour in some random interview or go into details about previous plans that collasped??
Turn off your computers and go outside, get some fresh air and find a hobby. The more time I spend away from the internet and actually live my life, the more I enjoy the album and it becomes all about the music. Fuck all this shit talk and gossip. "CD is toast" " "The band is dead in the water" "Axls only chance in the world is to reunite"
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I'm enjoying the hell out the new album and looking forward to hearing some of the songs live, surely noone is going to call me insane for having that hope???
