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#2831 Re: Guns N' Roses » On Ron as 3rd guitarist (2006) » 787 weeks ago

when Finck left that was the time to revert back to two guitarists

dj is completely superfluous
for better r worse he doesn't add the flavour or style of robin & he sure as shit doesn't have the chops of bucket r bumble & bumble could handle anything that dj plays w/4tus on rhythm

they did get lucky w ron but dj has been pointless
after this tour axl & GnR should shed some weight

#2832 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 787 weeks ago

no monkey u'r underestimate how truly crap a night out is when you've been to a truly crap GnR show
there is a bottom line to that tho being you know it's a risk before & that its an experience of the broader GnR reality i.e. if you've experienced the other thing GnR r infamous for, meltdowns/bad temper/form
so it does have that clause you don't get when you go see other crap gigs - but they're still never as crap as whenever GnR crap out, of course.

but of course he should go GnR  should get him a ticket

#2833 Re: Guns N' Roses » to clear the air » 787 weeks ago

savage did have a fistful of flaits trunks for the pin tho
still have this on vhs somewhere neutral

#2834 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 787 weeks ago

watching that otherwise brilliant Estranged video i just gotta say, DJ has been a mistake from day 1.

#2835 Re: Guns N' Roses » 2011-12 Guns n Roses Tour » 787 weeks ago

Axlin08 wrote:
faldor wrote:
Smoking Guns wrote:

Got tix for Atlanta, who is going?  I know D said he was, but he will back out.  My friends want me to go cause they know I am a HUGE GNR fan, but, they think its the original band.  When i told them Slash wouldn't be there, they about cried.  We are still going, but I am so worried Axl with suck and they will give me hell for loving GNR.  Pretty much outside of the GNR forums, Slash is loved universally and Axl is still the dick.  That shit hasn't changed in 20 years.

Anyway, I will be there, Nov. 2nd, Phillips Arena.  Axl better fucking bring it. 
The Slash show last year at Center Stage was one of the best concerts I have ever been to.

I hear ya.  I have the same fears myself.  I didn't have to beg or urge my friends to get tickets.  But I know damn well if Axl has a Rio like performance or the show isn't up to snuff, I'll get blamed by them.  It's a lot of pressure.  I'll be nervous the day of the show.

Plus, as is the case with most casual fans, all of my friends want to see Slash and call this version fakeGNR.  The usual.

That's why I gave up on inviting people to shows. The one person I had that was totally enthusiastic about it, got killed within the first 2-3 songs at Rio.

I was humiliated. So glad I got high afterwards.

I've totally given up on it. I don't know what else to do to put Axl over. Everytime I come close, he fucks it up legendarily.

u shoulda gotten high BEFORE the rio show


my best mate is a hardcore GnR fan but he didn't go see them when they played his hometown belfast as he'd seen them before (02/06) & they were on a weeknight
i missed him on the night of the show & he cost me a lotta money sending him updates  (& of dublin the nxt night)
& of course he wishes he'd went to both nights.

#2836 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 787 weeks ago

some fuckin crazy talk going on there


Naltav wrote:
madagas wrote:
Olorin wrote:

Yep seems like its a big improvement, any fuck ups wont be as apparent anyway seeing as its not being beemed live around the world, but they were all better than what they produced on the big stage the other night, thats why it was so disapointing and it could only really get better.
Find it a bit weird that they have added yet another AC/DC song to the set... this is the guy who spent how many years and how many millions making how many records worth of new material? Throwing in a cover version at the end of the set is a fun idea, but to have so many seems kind of weak.
Pretty disapointed to be honest, even if they dust off OMG it seems like they are scraping the barrel for ideas, and the reality of the elusive follow up album is its just mad notion in the minds of a few nutty online fans.
Infact I couldnt care less if they start breaking out Coma, Locomotive, The Garden, Breakdown etc - thats the old bands accomplishments,  by now this line up should be living and dying by their own work.

agree...too many cover songs.:headbang:

Really?! We're down to this now?

Looks like Axl isn't the only one "scraping the barrel"

I mean we all wanna hear new material from Axl & Co.

But the simple fact still remains. There is no way around that they have to do the setlist more or less the way they're doing it now.
If they did mostly new material (ChiDem) and unheard songs, spiced with WTTJ, SCOM, NR, PC, the Guns N' Roses-tours of late would be club-gigs instead of arenas and stadiums.
And then THAT would be an issue for the usual whiners, "Oh, fuck! I can't believe it's come to this?! Nobody cares anymore! bla bla bla!"

Like someone else pointed out. Sure, as a diehard fan, I'd love to hear a new song or three! But do I want a repetition of getting a new GNR album in my hands where I've already heard 9 out of 14 tracks? Hell no!

you're getting a new GnR album?
when?

#2837 Re: Guns N' Roses » Gotta post this » 787 weeks ago

brought a smile 2 my face
wish i could do that

#2838 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 787 weeks ago

russtcb wrote:

"weak ending to the once mighty Guns N' Roses"?? Do what now? I was very worried about the tour immediately following Rio the other night, but by no means did I think it was "the end".

depends what u mean by 'the end' i think olorin is talking about the realisation of the transformation of what GnR was into what it is. once it was a dynamic rock n roll band now it's an oldies act. his use of 'weak' disguises the shocking betrayal @ the core of the ideology this transformation has enacted but i don't blame olorin for that as it's too depressing to mull upon.

#2839 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 787 weeks ago

Olorin wrote:

I really wonder now whats happened, mabye how CD was recieved just killed off any drive Axl had. Judging by how that album limped out in the end, mabye that drive was gone long before that...

For me though, Guns N'Roses is my favourite band, but not these guys - the real Guns N'Roses I grew up with.
I thought what Axl was building had so much potential, and the little original material we were exposed to in the early years I loved, so I didnt mind those guys stepping in the shoes of the old guys and being GNR, they were working on taking GNR forward.
But those guys are gone now and its a new cast and it seems like they have even given up the pretense of taking the band forward, digging into the the old bands and other bands discography seems like the height of their ambition and I'm not really down with that.
They are good performers sure and they put on a great show... I guess my problem is that the penny has finally dropped on me, like so many people have said here in the past, they are just the worlds most expensive cover band.

Bit of a weak ending to the once mighty Guns N'Roses.

agree
u are otm re their ambitions
it's sad but true. axl's actions do prove he has given up artistically in what he wants from Guns & to the rest it's a job.

#2840 Re: Guns N' Roses » Santiago, Chile - October 5, 2011 » 787 weeks ago

faldor wrote:

Another one from Carolina.  I wonder how, why, who chose this song.  Seems like an odd choice.  Never heard of the song before Sunday.

Powerage is an awesome record

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