Right on cue, one emerges out of the darkness.

Yes, I'm sorry, I take head of your warning.

A poster at CD.com I think, both images are fan made though.

Wrong. If you had to pick body parts of your loved ones off the ground on a regular basis, how would you feel about that?

The "war on terror" has fueled the anger and hate many muslims have against the west, and has given many young people, and generations still to come, more reason to rise up against "the oppressors", than the radicalist preachers ever could have achieved.

Iraq was a threat to fuck all, nothing was found because nothing was there! The country had been on its knees for years before the invasion and prior to that the biggest export of radicalsim and terrorism was Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, fucking allies of the west.
Show me examples of this Iraqi terrorist threat Bush spoke of please and show me Iraqi terrorists striking on western soil, ever.

Iraq had never been an export of terrorists prior to the invasion, and the reason for the invasion was because of Saddam allegedly harbouring "weapons of mass destruction". He did have them at one time, because we fucking sold them to him, but they were destroyed by the UN in the years following the first Gulf War.

There is a reason so many heads have rolled since that invasion and that because so much of the apparent evidence to support the claims has since been proved to have been fabricated, or at best, exagerated.

Oh-ho, just noticed this thread that has grown somewhat.
So you’re demanding explanations and won’t let this lie either as a member here, or anywhere else? How heroic.

Not out of any great desire to yield to your demands, but more out of respect for this site, I’ll give you some answers.

“Of what few users there are, the "big" sites consist of mostly sycophants, haters with the occasional desperate realist”

You want my definitions behind that statement?

“sycophants” – People brown-nosing the band, band associates, forum admin and forum moderators.

“haters” – People bashing the new band, the old band, new members, old members, old band associates and new band associates.

“realists” – People who have no premeditated agenda, commenting on individual events and actions in an honest objective manner.

I don’t see what is so controversial about that statement; I still consider it a fair assessment. It may not be statistically accurate when broken down and measured in a detailed objective survey, but for an off the cuff statement and assessment from a forum user since the year 2000, it is not too unkind.

I consider myself a realist, but I have often been accused of being a nutswinger and of being a hater.
I don’t have a partisan standpoint on being strictly positive about GNR and I consider anyone who does as being dishonest and untrustworthy. I don’t look at anyone with an ingrained negative viewpoint with any love either or I wouldn’t have clashed with Mr O. Western.
I don’t consider myself faultless either, I’ll happily call someone a fucking cunt if they piss me off, rather than being diplomatic, and take the punishment that comes with insulting fellow members.

“When it comes to being mind numbingly servile, htgth wins hands down. Its hard to believe some of the bird brain posts in the main section come from adults and not pre school children.”

As for being servile, that’s a topic that has been discussed to death over the last few years and you can feign ignorance all you want but I don’t have to elaborate anymore on it here and now.

The “bird brain posts” comment refers to the snide and petty attacks on former band members, band associates and even other forum members that is encouraged, and often instigated by the forum staff and some forum members. It also refers to the hypocritical and skewed logic that is posted there in defence of their actions.
I’m not the most intelligent person of the planet, I have many difficulties that others find simple, but on any visit I make to browse that site I always come away with the impression that much of the content is a complete insult to my intelligence.
I don’t have to apologise for that, it’s merely my point of view, my own personal opinion.

“Its hard to believe some of the bird brain posts in the main section come from adults and not pre school children”

I did say some. If I believed that no forum member had any value whatsoever, I wouldn’t bother browsing it at all. But that’s not the case, there are some members there who’s contributions I enjoy reading. As a matter of fact there are some members I met there and I still privately stay in contact with, despite the fact I voluntarily deleted my account  because of my distaste for the politics of the place.

Quote AtariLegend
[i]“I want an explanation as to why this place is so elitist and why people discussing song lyrics is dumb.”[/i]

I’ll answer the second part first.

I didn’t know it was dumb:

http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=5854

As for the first part, I don’t consider this place elitist, nor does anyone else except you it seems, that’s your own words.  So is:
"Olorin" and "war" basically ditched almost everyone who has ever posted on a "Gn'R" forum. Most of the people with accounts here; basically come under the term brain dead posters by their criteria."

And also "brain dead" and "idiot", are your own words too, if you are going to quote me in a strange attempt to shame me, at least quote me correctly.

What I personally enjoy about this site is reasoned discussion, the openness of the discussion and the variety of viewpoints. I like how the site manages to keep an objective stance on GNR, without caving in to the expectations from some that a GNR fan site should be partisan and biased.
I also enjoy the good humour and lack of ego the site staff have. I read today that these cartoons are banned at htgth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gihc9A3_ … annel_page

If true, that’s just ridiculous.

I also quite enjoy the fact that I can make a post here without having it disappear into thin air 5 minutes later.

If this site wasn’t so easy going, members might not have the freedom to start inflammatory threads like this:

http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=6055&p=1

My own opinions are not representitive of this site, if they were I wouldnt get into so many fucking arguments!
Just because I personally have issues with other GNR sites, (and almost all them are with one site), and just because I happen to prefer this site over all the others, doesnt mean that this site is elitist in the slightest. Its bizarre to even suggest it. It all comes down to personal tastes and individual choice.
And I didnt imply anything, just like when I called you fannybaws, thats a pretty direct fucking statement.

Happy now, Fannybawz?!

Its from the same Chinese artist who designed the red star image in the booklet, Shi Lifeng.

http://www.soemo-fine-arts.com/artist?id=743

A booklet with more examples of his work would be pretty cool, I like it a lot.